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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On February 16 2013 19:28 Kaeru wrote: People keep asking girls if they want a relationship - I don't get why! If you end up in a relationship you do, if you don't then you don't. The question is 99% of the time awkward. Anyway, at number 3. You are at her place, she stops you and it ends up with you two ending up. Why didn't you just have sex with her there? Just throw her in the bed, hold her down like a man go... You've talked to her for 4 days, that's a lot...! I'll be honest, this was sort of hte type of response i was expecting. This was not the decision I made for these reasons 1) Oh yeah, go from never having kissed a girl to sex 2) I don't think she was necessarily in it for that at that point, neither was 3) Roommate returned 4) Sense of morals that whether correct or incorrect would take a lot of breaking to contradict 5) lack of any sort of preparedness As a sisdenote i ended up staying overnight. not like it really matters but i forgot to include htat. In terms of the question: quite possibly, I have no clue. I care at this point because it seems like a bullshit excuse. I mean, maybe its true but it doesnt seem terribly congruent, and to say the very least I wasn't trying to use her purely for the sex | ||
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
On February 16 2013 19:28 Kaeru wrote: People keep asking girls if they want a relationship - I don't get why! If you end up in a relationship you do, if you don't then you don't. The question is 99% of the time awkward. Anyway, at number 3. You are at her place, she stops you and it ends up with you two making out. Why didn't you just have sex with her there? Just throw her in the bed, hold her down like a man and go... You've talked to her for 4 days, that's a lot...! If she's sleeping with multiple guys, turn her over and take a good grip of her hair with one hand, around her throat with the other and just shove your aggressions straight into her. Edit: I like to add. Unless you're in-love with her seriously, why do you care if she is dating multiple guys? Just have sex with her and ignore her for a while. I don't mean the candles and shit sex, fuck her hard. (sorry ended up with lots of edits) My thoughts exactly.. This is the kind of girl you don't have relationship with. You fuck her, if both of u likes it, you fuck some more. If not.... then move on. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Sucks to hear Froadac--I suppose she just wasn't for you from the sound of it. I say ignore the bitch, not worth a friend unless you're lonely and you can forgive her too. She still sounds weird though. Just my opinion. | ||
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Calliopee
Denmark151 Posts
Either way - 2 months later having dealt with all sorts of stupid questions and alot of blame of myself I realised 2 things: Falling in love should be fun Being in love should be EASY I'm not talking about being in a relationship - fuck me that shit can be harder than most stuff you'll ever face - but the early phases should never cause all kinds of anxiety and blame - if it does, take a long hard look at yourself and the girl you're chasing - chances are there's something fundamentally wrong. My thoughts are you're better off with another girl - nothing wrong in having standards and asking for exclusivity (is that a word?) is definatly something worth expecting from a girl. You'll be happier with another for sure. | ||
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ktimekiller
United States690 Posts
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Kaeru
Sweden552 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
-This is your first experience with a girl Why is this a problem? Basically, if this were me, I'd become fuckbuddies with her right at the spot, I really wouldn't mind if she had multiple dudes, I'd just have a lot of fun with her. But, if you've never had sex with a girl, this isn't a good course of action. My advice, let her go, she seems like more trouble than you need. | ||
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FractalsOnFire
Australia1756 Posts
Sexual anxiety man, the only way you're going to get over it is by doing it. Fuck a relationship with this girl. As someone else said "Bang bang" | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 16 2013 22:54 sc4k wrote: Dude you weren't friendzoned if she kissed you passionately twice haha!!! She sounds faintly insane and weird. Definitely not relationship material. You aren't in the wrong for thinking bad of her. She needs to sort her shit out. Nah, it depends on the age. In your 20s, especially late 20s, making out means absolutely nothing. Plenty of girls do it recreationally or just to see if the guy is a good kisser. They'll even do it out of boredom or they're feeling playful at the time. I wouldn't put any stock in it, tbh. Especially if the girl is very sexual. Some ppl are pretty fked up. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:51 SamsungStar wrote: Nah, it depends on the age. In your 20s, especially late 20s, making out means absolutely nothing. Plenty of girls do it recreationally or just to see if the guy is a good kisser. They'll even do it out of boredom or they're feeling playful at the time. I wouldn't put any stock in it, tbh. Especially if the girl is very sexual. Some ppl are pretty fked up. Still fun though, you just have to avoid getting involved. Have toooons of fun! | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 17 2013 01:05 mordk wrote: Still fun though, you just have to avoid getting involved. Have toooons of fun! Lol it's fun if you are relatively immune to herpes  | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:51 SamsungStar wrote: Nah, it depends on the age. In your 20s, especially late 20s, making out means absolutely nothing. Plenty of girls do it recreationally or just to see if the guy is a good kisser. They'll even do it out of boredom or they're feeling playful at the time. I wouldn't put any stock in it, tbh. Especially if the girl is very sexual. Some ppl are pretty fked up. Indeed for many girls making out means jack. I tend to look for girls for whom this is not the case.. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14079 Posts
On February 17 2013 03:11 Froadac wrote: Yeah, I dunno. And here she is today being like yay I"m going to blahblah i'tll be fun and I'm like really? That's bait. Casual response among the lines of "Oh, that sounds cool. Have fun!" and she'll be all over you again soon. Would be careful with her though, not because of any of your initial reasons (most of which are excuses to make you feel better about this scenario), but because she's not even remotely as tough as she pretends to be. | ||
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ProV1
United States980 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 17 2013 08:57 synapse wrote: Never stick your dick in crazy. JUST RUN DUDE RUN Whoever came up with never stick your dick in crazy had to be gay. I'm sorry, but all women are crazy to a relatively high degree. If you ran from all of them, you'd end up on the moon. New girls, innocent girls, naive girls, jaded girls, experienced girls. It really doesn't matter. If they have two X chromosomes, you can bet your sweet ass they have a great capacity for deviousness and mind-games. Or they are just so unstable that they lurch from one inconsistency to the next. I don't think I've ever run into a girl who's not at least partially insane. But that's not to say I'm not batshit too. I am :D. | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
Sounds like many Chinese girls I've dealt with. Extreme mood/interest changes is unusually characteristic of them. $100 says she's of Chinese descent. (Anyone willing to take the bet owes me $100) Also, this girl is a first-rate slut and is batshit insane. Just saying :s | ||
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hoby2000
United States918 Posts
On February 16 2013 19:28 Kaeru wrote: People keep asking girls if they want a relationship - I don't get why! If you end up in a relationship you do, if you don't then you don't. The question is 99% of the time awkward. Anyway, at number 3. You are at her place, she stops you and it ends up with you two making out. Why didn't you just have sex with her there? Just throw her in the bed, hold her down like a man and go... You've talked to her for 4 days, that's a lot...! If she's sleeping with multiple guys, turn her over and take a good grip of her hair with one hand, around her throat with the other and just shove your aggressions straight into her. Edit: I like to add. Unless you're in-love with her seriously, why do you care if she is dating multiple guys? Just have sex with her and ignore her for a while. I don't mean the candles and shit sex, fuck her hard. (sorry ended up with lots of edits) I cannot tell you how important this is. The bolded part. It took me so fucking long to figure that shit out, haha. If it's going to be a relationship, then it will be. Pushing for it to be a relationship isn't going to change their mind. It's only going to freak them out more because they're assuming all you want to do is date them, and not be their friend also. | ||
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ProV1
United States980 Posts
On February 17 2013 10:13 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: I've already discussed this a lot, but a couple addendums. Sounds like many Chinese girls I've dealt with. Extreme mood/interest changes is unusually characteristic of them. $100 says she's of Chinese descent. (Anyone willing to take the bet owes me $100) Also, this girl is a first-rate slut and is batshit insane. Just saying :s I bet you a $100 that she's not chinese. Just because a girl has options and likes to see more than one guy does not make her a slut or make her insane. Lots of girls in college will "cheat" on their boyfriends. No girl gets wet for just one guy, and when there's shit like alcohol or a guy who's cooler than their boyfriend and who's willing to take the responsibility off the girl in pretext, then the girl will sleep with the guy. Having a boyfriend is mostly for comfort. All young girls in their 20's will sleep around,whether they are white, asian, black, etc. On February 17 2013 08:09 Zim23 wrote: She wanted you in that moment and now that the moment is gone she changed her mind. Happens all the time. You missed your chance move on and find another one. It's college man, don't get hung up on one girl. Also keep in mind that your two options aren't only friend or serious relationship, lots of middle ground. Best advice in this thread. | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 17 2013 11:20 ProV1 wrote: I bet you a $100 that she's not chinese. Just because a girl has options and likes to see more than one guy does not make her a slut or make her insane. Lots of girls in college will "cheat" on their boyfriends. No girl gets wet for just one guy, and when there's shit like alcohol or a guy who's cooler than their boyfriend and who's willing to take the responsibility off the girl in pretext, then the girl will sleep with the guy. Having a boyfriend is mostly for comfort. All young girls in their 20's will sleep around,whether they are white, asian, black, etc. Best advice in this thread. Not all girls, but the vast majority yes. Vast majority of girls are sluts. Your logic doesn't make sense. Just because most girls are slutty it doesn't mean slutty behavior is no longer slutty. It is STILL slutty, it's just not as rare as society tries to pretend. | ||
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targ
Malaysia445 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:51 SamsungStar wrote: Nah, it depends on the age. In your 20s, especially late 20s, making out means absolutely nothing. Plenty of girls do it recreationally or just to see if the guy is a good kisser. They'll even do it out of boredom or they're feeling playful at the time. I wouldn't put any stock in it, tbh. Especially if the girl is very sexual. Some ppl are pretty fked up. You know, I tend to get the kind of girl who wants a serious relationship. How do I meet more of the type who just does it for fun? (I'm in my mid-twenties) | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On February 17 2013 11:50 SamsungStar wrote: Not all girls, but the vast majority yes. Vast majority of girls are sluts. Your logic doesn't make sense. Just because most girls are slutty it doesn't mean slutty behavior is no longer slutty. It is STILL slutty, it's just not as rare as society tries to pretend. "Slutty" is such a slutty word. Anyways, aren't guys more slutty than girls anyways for the most part? Though I guess for every slutty guy there's gotta be a slutty girl, so it probably balances out in the end. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On February 17 2013 13:47 targ wrote: You know, I tend to get the kind of girl who wants a serious relationship. How do I meet more of the type who just does it for fun? (I'm in my mid-twenties) Bars + alcohol! :D | ||
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ProV1
United States980 Posts
On February 17 2013 11:50 SamsungStar wrote: Not all girls, but the vast majority yes. Vast majority of girls are sluts. Your logic doesn't make sense. Just because most girls are slutty it doesn't mean slutty behavior is no longer slutty. It is STILL slutty, it's just not as rare as society tries to pretend. Ok, you got me on my miswording there. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On February 17 2013 13:47 targ wrote: You know, I tend to get the kind of girl who wants a serious relationship. How do I meet more of the type who just does it for fun? (I'm in my mid-twenties) Bars are a good place, don't try clubs, the chances of meeting a good girl are slim to none, you go to clubs to hook up and have a good time, not to find a relationship, girls know this fact. Bars, in comparison, are a good place to start a conversation, which will allow you to determine if you like a girl or not, based on things other than just looks. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
So what are you going to do now Froadac, after all the advice? I'm thinking she may be a great material to train how to deal with cock teases and not to get your mind screwed by them. I'm thinking once you are immune to their insanity it becomes easier to have fun with them, unless you would rather not deal at all with crazy females  | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On February 17 2013 11:20 ProV1 wrote: I bet you a $100 that she's not chinese. Just because a girl has options and likes to see more than one guy does not make her a slut or make her insane. Lots of girls in college will "cheat" on their boyfriends. No girl gets wet for just one guy, and when there's shit like alcohol or a guy who's cooler than their boyfriend and who's willing to take the responsibility off the girl in pretext, then the girl will sleep with the guy. Having a boyfriend is mostly for comfort. All young girls in their 20's will sleep around,whether they are white, asian, black, etc. Best advice in this thread. You just lost $100. I know the situation personally. I wasn't simply assuming she was Chinese, though I implied it that way. This is why you should not be arrogant . I even warned you that taking the bet means you've lost it. LOL!! You misunderstood my comment. I didn't say Chinese girls are slutty necessarily, in fact, many are terrified of speaking to people outside their close comfort zone. I did say that they're unusually keen to have extreme mood/interest changes like described in OP. Knowing the situation in a far more detailed manner than described in OP, I myself am literally astonished at how it transpired, until I remembered some of the girls in my past lol. You are correct, though. I have unintentionally (as in, I literally had no idea the girl had a bf) homewrecked quite a few times, with girls who are extremely socially anxious and practically anti-sexual. It disgusts me how f'd even girls you'd think have very high values can be. Also correct on why most girls bother with boyfriends at all. Just comfort. I'd say 95+% of the relationships at this age are so entirely superficial, it's silly. I speak from first-hand experience in regards to such relationships, btw. On February 17 2013 14:09 babylon wrote: "Slutty" is such a slutty word. Anyways, aren't guys more slutty than girls anyways for the most part? Though I guess for every slutty guy there's gotta be a slutty girl, so it probably balances out in the end. Not really. Any girl get laid. She just has to put it out there. Obviously, most girls aren't going to just do it like that, but my point is, if a girl wants to get laid, she can do it very, very easily. Guys don't have this ability, because things work a lot differently. A guy can't just say he wants to get laid and it happens. This is why girls on average are... a lot sluttier. Any one of them can be as such, and many do. A guy? You either have to be around girls a lot so they're really comfortable with you, have good game (  ) and with girls who are slutty at that, or have batshit insane situations where a girl randomly out of the blue decides to hook up with you. It happens a lot less often for most guys.If intergender relations worked the same both ways (and they don't at all), then yes, guys on average would probably be sluttier. In the reality, the answer is no, not by a long shot. | ||
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targ
Malaysia445 Posts
On February 17 2013 14:28 mordk wrote: Bars are a good place, don't try clubs, the chances of meeting a good girl are slim to none, you go to clubs to hook up and have a good time, not to find a relationship, girls know this fact. Bars, in comparison, are a good place to start a conversation, which will allow you to determine if you like a girl or not, based on things other than just looks. Haha I'm afraid what I want is just the other way around - I want girls who like to hook up and have a good time instead of wanting relationships. | ||
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Xenocryst
United States521 Posts
On February 16 2013 19:31 Froadac wrote: I'll be honest, this was sort of hte type of response i was expecting. This was not the decision I made for these reasons 1) Oh yeah, go from never having kissed a girl to sex 2) I don't think she was necessarily in it for that at that point, neither was 3) Roommate returned 4) Sense of morals that whether correct or incorrect would take a lot of breaking to contradict 5) lack of any sort of preparedness As a sisdenote i ended up staying overnight. not like it really matters but i forgot to include htat. In terms of the question: quite possibly, I have no clue. I care at this point because it seems like a bullshit excuse. I mean, maybe its true but it doesnt seem terribly congruent, and to say the very least I wasn't trying to use her purely for the sex Before people have any sexual experiences people always assume that you need tons of experience and you need to be all shy and beta. NOT TRUE, you need to be confident, that's actually all that matters, nothing else, doesn't matter if you're a virgin, if you are confident and actually believe in yourself you can go for it. If nothing else just go for the sex, lovey-dovey doesn't work out very often, and you will have a great time with her even if it's just sexual. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Loser777
1931 Posts
On February 17 2013 18:13 Froadac wrote: she is Chinese descent but was adopted by a white couple at 2 years of age. still texting me and shit. Interesting, that adds some kindling to the nature vs. nurture debate fire. If it were me I would just say fuck it a single girl isn't worth this trouble especially if I don't have some kind of innate attachment/devotion. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On February 17 2013 18:32 Loser777 wrote: Interesting, that adds some kindling to the nature vs. nurture debate fire. If it were me I would just say fuck it a single girl isn't worth this trouble especially if I don't have some kind of innate attachment/devotion. Yeah. I dunno. Just sort of mindlessly replying for the better or worse. I ought to sleep though. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
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FractalsOnFire
Australia1756 Posts
On February 18 2013 09:59 beetlelisk wrote: Are you still angry at her? If yes then maybe talk with her about it to make the situation clear. I don't even know why he should be angry with her. They're not in an exclusive relationship, if she wants to sleep around with multiple guys that's up to her. He should accept that and either become another fuck buddy or find another girl that won't waste his time. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
On February 18 2013 11:21 FractalsOnFire wrote: I don't even know why he should be angry with her. They're not in an exclusive relationship, if she wants to sleep around with multiple guys that's up to her. He should accept that and either become another fuck buddy or find another girl that won't waste his time. He wrote in the OP She obviously fucked me over to a certain degree, i still feel the need to be nice, but I'm not sure that's right. I always have been nice, and I think she would be a good friend but after this shit I'm not quite sure anymore. The whole dating multiple people at the same time angers me. Esp after what she said when we were talking to each other/engaged in cuddling close contact about oh yeah you understand me which is really shit in retrospect. But is she just sleeping around and then projecting a strong moral code to compensate for her actual behavior? and he's still talking to her. So question is: Froadac what do you want to do about her? Stay in touch or break contact? | ||
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FractalsOnFire
Australia1756 Posts
On February 18 2013 11:34 beetlelisk wrote: He wrote in the OP and he's still talking to her. So question is: Froadac what do you want to do about her? Stay in touch or break contact? I don't really see that as a reason, as I've stated before. They're not in an exclusive relationship, they're not gf/bf. Also I don't see how she is being contradictory/hypocritical. She never said "yeah monogamous relationships are the way to go" or something along those lines. All she said was "You understand me". They both connect on a deeper level, she just likes to fuck around. Who the fuck cares if she fucks other men, she ain't his woman. Hell she's even open about it, she never promised anything about monogamy or lead him on in any way about expectations. He made all of that up in his own head. Of course him having feelings is the reason he's so invested in this. Projecting his own values onto her thinking that's the way things should be, rather than just accepting her for who she is and letting her just be. My guess is he has a certain way of thinking how relationships work and begin and feels mislead. Probably thinks 'oh yeah connecting on a deeper level with someone while making out and flirting should equal a monogamous relationship'. Everyone is different, not everyone thinks the same way or feels the same way. Not everyone wants a monogamous relationship, not everyone is satisfied with just one partner. Contrary to what society may tell you is the ideal relationship. This is all from what he's told us but if she really did lead him on, I think he would've mentioned it. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
My guess is he has a certain way of thinking how relationships work and begin and feels mislead. Probably thinks 'oh yeah connecting on a deeper level with someone while making out and flirting should equal a monogamous relationship'. Look at this in this way - he never kissed a girl before, he never had a GF so what happened between them could and probably did feel special for him. Maybe he also got a sense of an achieving something and suddenly he learns that she likes to "date" multiple guys at the same time, which can be understood as anyone can be intimate and make up with her. Since she's easy to get it means he achieved nothing, his experience wasn't as meaningful, had a different character from what he values and maybe even didn't teach him anything about girls he's interested in. He held something precious for a few days and completely lost it. Froadac has written about girl friend(s), friendship is a kind of a relationship and I bet he imagined having girlfriend as a friend you can kiss and be intimate with. That's also my view on how GF should be like. Can you even imagine being in a emotional relationship with a girl who's fucked as if she's a property of random dudes she met the other day? Having a GF isn't the same as having a fuck buddy and he also wrote that going from never kissing straight to sex is too fast. He doesn't have the experience necessary to tell monogamy at this age is a myth and even when it happens it looks like a joke. Is it a complete myth and a joke though? He shouldn't be blamed for not knowing and thus have the right to be angry and confused k? Those things should be explained and people here have done that. People are born as newbies to everything, it's only natural and nobody's fault. Just read his parent rage blogs and see in what kind of an environment he had to grow up. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
I wouldn't have been angry had it not been for the extreme conflict with what she said earlier. i don't know I would mind it either way. And yes, to a certain degree "My guess is he has a certain way of thinking how relationships work and begin and feels mislead. Probably thinks 'oh yeah connecting on a deeper level with someone while making out and flirting should equal a monogamous relationship'." but I was also fully aware it wasn't true so iunno. The only thing I was angry about was seeming contradiction but meh. In terms of leading me on, what would you say falls in that category? | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 18 2013 13:57 Froadac wrote: Well, I was angry with that being given as a reason. I wouldn't have been angry had it not been for the extreme conflict with what she said earlier. i don't know I would mind it either way. And yes, to a certain degree "My guess is he has a certain way of thinking how relationships work and begin and feels mislead. Probably thinks 'oh yeah connecting on a deeper level with someone while making out and flirting should equal a monogamous relationship'." but I was also fully aware it wasn't true so iunno. The only thing I was angry about was seeming contradiction but meh. In terms of leading me on, what would you say falls in that category? If she slept with you, said you had the perfect penis for her, that the experience was so magical and amazing, and she can already feel your seed stirring within her womb. That she loves you with all her heart and she wants to be with you till the end of time. Then you find out she went and screwed another dude the next day and even let him film it. That would be leading you on with false pretenses. You've got a long way to go on the road to cynicism and dead-eyed jadedness, but remember, it always starts with a kiss | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 18 2013 14:39 beetlelisk wrote: Do you mean gradually getting involved with someone? Ooops, sorry. I meant, only time will show a girl's true nature. I haven't found any overt signals that I can easily judge based off of. Some of the quietest, shy, most demure girls turn out to be total freak skanks. Other girls can be really rowdy, in your face, and dress scandalous, but end up the most devoted loyal girlfriend ever. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
But we're back at it >.> | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
1st tip from me: if you are doing her orally, trying to speak while doing it doesn't cut it, just move your lips fast | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
Man up and take her to Cheesecake Factory or the Melting Pot if you want some poon tang. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
What are you basing this on? I wouldn't turn this into relationship based on money so fast. I'd check her for free first, whatever "checking" may imply. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On February 27 2013 21:56 Burrfoot wrote: I believe you got added to her "meal ticket" rotation where she has 7-10 guys in the roster (many older men you probably dont know about!) to "casually date" to buy her lunch and dinner. The nicer the place you take her the more she puts out. Man up and take her to Cheesecake Factory or the Melting Pot if you want some poon tang. Halt the trolling. That is not the case. You have absolutely no basis. And considering everything has been for free, and based on what she said, you're pretty damn far off base. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On February 28 2013 04:13 Froadac wrote: Halt the trolling. That is not the case. You have absolutely no basis. And considering everything has been for free, and based on what she said, you're pretty damn far off base. It's called sarcasm, it's a form of humor. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32028 Posts
Stop reading all of the terrible girl blogs on here and thinking that other people's fucked up relationships are normal, and for the love of god don't listen to the rest of the advice in this thread (outside of fractals) because it is all written by immature, hypocritical, misogynistic cavemen who apparently have never dated anyone unless you both talk about and consent to monogamy, you have zero right to get pissed about someone exploring other options. You don't go on one date with someone and they become your property. This is the same for both guys and girls. And someone is not a slut/player for exploring your other options before you commit to someone you met less than a week before jesus. She didn't fuck you over, she didn't friend zone you or anyting like that. You asking someone to be in a relationship with you after five days is weird. That's probalby exactly why she was initially turned off. Why she is with you now, i havent a clue, but my opinion is that you're clearly way too immature to be dating someone like this if you think that what she's done was slutty, fucked you over etc. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
And yes, I did come to that realization after the fact Hawk. It just took a bit of introspection to determine what the actual case was. I definitely overreacted and that falls on me, but at this point it has been resolved. Sorry burrfoot, that just came off weirdly I suppose. Yes, first part was definitely testing phase. | ||
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FractalsOnFire
Australia1756 Posts
On February 28 2013 05:19 QuanticHawk wrote: Kissing and talking to someone doesn't make them your girlfriend. Neither does whispering sweet nothing or talking about how awesome that person is. You're only an official monogomous couple when one of you brings up and you both agree to it. Stop reading all of the terrible girl blogs on here and thinking that other people's fucked up relationships are normal, and for the love of god don't listen to the rest of the advice in this thread (outside of fractals) because it is all written by immature, hypocritical, misogynistic cavemen who apparently have never dated anyone unless you both talk about and consent to monogamy, you have zero right to get pissed about someone exploring other options. You don't go on one date with someone and they become your property. This is the same for both guys and girls. And someone is not a slut/player for exploring your other options before you commit to someone you met less than a week before jesus. She didn't fuck you over, she didn't friend zone you or anyting like that. You asking someone to be in a relationship with you after five days is weird. That's probalby exactly why she was initially turned off. Why she is with you now, i havent a clue, but my opinion is that you're clearly way too immature to be dating someone like this if you think that what she's done was slutty, fucked you over etc. Oh thank you Hawk, I'm glad you agree with my advice/thoughts. | ||
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ktimekiller
United States690 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On February 28 2013 13:49 ktimekiller wrote: Another case of a loony thinking a date meant committed? Yes. That. But then understanding --> actual relationship. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On February 28 2013 05:19 QuanticHawk wrote: Kissing and talking to someone doesn't make them your girlfriend. Neither does whispering sweet nothing or talking about how awesome that person is. You're only an official monogomous couple when one of you brings up and you both agree to it. Stop reading all of the terrible girl blogs on here and thinking that other people's fucked up relationships are normal, and for the love of god don't listen to the rest of the advice in this thread (outside of fractals) because it is all written by immature, hypocritical, misogynistic cavemen who apparently have never dated anyone unless you both talk about and consent to monogamy, you have zero right to get pissed about someone exploring other options. You don't go on one date with someone and they become your property. This is the same for both guys and girls. And someone is not a slut/player for exploring your other options before you commit to someone you met less than a week before jesus. She didn't fuck you over, she didn't friend zone you or anyting like that. You asking someone to be in a relationship with you after five days is weird. That's probalby exactly why she was initially turned off. Why she is with you now, i havent a clue, but my opinion is that you're clearly way too immature to be dating someone like this if you think that what she's done was slutty, fucked you over etc. How would one bring this up, though? I've also heard (perhaps from one of the cavemen posters though) that in terms of relationships, you shouldn't bring up "do you want to enter a relationship", because the question will always be awkward and you probably shouldn't have to ask. But at the same time, you're right about what you're saying up above--if you don't both agree to be monogamous, you aren't in a relationship >.< | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14079 Posts
On February 28 2013 14:34 Aerisky wrote: How would one bring this up, though? I've also heard (perhaps from one of the cavemen posters though) that in terms of relationships, you shouldn't bring up "do you want to enter a relationship", because the question will always be awkward and you probably shouldn't have to ask. But at the same time, you're right about what you're saying up above--if you don't both agree to be monogamous, you aren't in a relationship >.< Have fun together, have sex together, do things couples do. In most of those scenarios she will bring it up. If she doesn't it's fine to do so yourself after a week or two or whenever you feel like it. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:03 r.Evo wrote: Have fun together, have sex together, do things couples do. In most of those scenarios she will bring it up. If she doesn't it's fine to do so yourself after a week or two or whenever you feel like it. Consistent with my experience. | ||
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