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On September 28 2012 01:39 Mementoss wrote:
how would you keep the fruit from rotting and such.
It's not shippable and doubtful it would be profitable. Whos gunna pay klike 5$ for a vodka apple. When they can just buy mixed drinks
He'd presumably sell locally. People with money will buy things, if nothing else just to try. And if they like it, they'll be willing to overpay. Especially if nobody else does it.
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A good tip for saving on costs is to recycle syringes. Just find your local heroin junkie-hangout and locate a syringe. Make sure you identify blood or fluid them so that you know they're used. On a good day you can find up to 30 syringes in just one crack-den. Save the environment, and enjoy the savings!
I would definitely by this product, especially if it's marketed in the right way. You should employ shirtless men to stand outside the airport vendoring and you'll make a killing on tourists buying them!
Seriously though, this seems like something that would be used for marketing some upper class restaraunt or nightclub. I don't see people wanting to stand around getting pissed wanting to eat vodka-oranges on a regular basis.
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On September 28 2012 00:56 targ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 00:26 Cambium wrote:
you have to make sure it actually tastes good
i think it's going to be tricky to have alcohol evenly distributed in a fruit, you'd need to grow it with alcohol instead of water without having it chemically altered, which sounds like a pretty fucking hard problem (but will probably be figured out one day by some Japanese dude and sold for 1000000 JPY in Isetan)
Anyway, even if it does taste okay if you just randomly inject vodka into an apple, it sounds like it's going to involve a lot of manual labour or some serious investment into advanced machinery.
Assuming you go with manual labour since it's much easier to set up, as you don't have to invent a machine first. Given that you live in Malaysia, and I'm going to make an ignorant assumption that labour is relatively cheap there, you are looking at a serious crew if you want to turn this into a profitable business (meaning not something like a lemonade stand set up by a 5 year old) by any means. Then you have to deal with a slew of health regulations, sanitation of workstations, business registration, payroll, taxation, etc. Pricing such products may present another challenge. If the price is too high, no one will want to buy them, but you won't be able to make a profit (give the huge crew you have employed mass producing these products) if you make them too cheap. You also don't want to resort to cheaper raw materials, as they may ruin your brand before you even begin.
Finally, no one is going to buy a drugged up apple bleeding alcohol from some random dude off some beaten road just to get drunk. Doesn't that sound sketchy to you? I see what you mean. Problem is I have zero engineering expertise so making a machine is definitely not feasible for me. Perhaps if the diffusion problem proves too tricky I may switch to injecting vodka into sponge cakes.
First make your alcoholic fruits, and then sell non alcoholic fruit for underaged kids so they dont feel left out in social situations.
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Some guy who owned a woodworking company once shared me this story:
A guy at work was an alcohol addict. He'd go to work drunk, drink on the job with all the dangers available. Openly running machinery (lathes) and such. He'd been told to stop and at some point it had effect. He'd even not bring along his secret bottle of alcohol.
At some point it came obvious that his drunken behavior was still present so the boss took a closer look at the case. Couldn't find anything at first. Then it became clear that nowadays he's always bringing an orange for lunch. Which was pumped full of wodka... They can be crafty...
Anyway, apples could perhaps be soaked, but oranges are obviously easier to play with. Take juice out with a syringe, put heavy liquor back.
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On September 28 2012 02:01 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 00:56 targ wrote:On September 28 2012 00:26 Cambium wrote:
you have to make sure it actually tastes good
i think it's going to be tricky to have alcohol evenly distributed in a fruit, you'd need to grow it with alcohol instead of water without having it chemically altered, which sounds like a pretty fucking hard problem (but will probably be figured out one day by some Japanese dude and sold for 1000000 JPY in Isetan)
Anyway, even if it does taste okay if you just randomly inject vodka into an apple, it sounds like it's going to involve a lot of manual labour or some serious investment into advanced machinery.
Assuming you go with manual labour since it's much easier to set up, as you don't have to invent a machine first. Given that you live in Malaysia, and I'm going to make an ignorant assumption that labour is relatively cheap there, you are looking at a serious crew if you want to turn this into a profitable business (meaning not something like a lemonade stand set up by a 5 year old) by any means. Then you have to deal with a slew of health regulations, sanitation of workstations, business registration, payroll, taxation, etc. Pricing such products may present another challenge. If the price is too high, no one will want to buy them, but you won't be able to make a profit (give the huge crew you have employed mass producing these products) if you make them too cheap. You also don't want to resort to cheaper raw materials, as they may ruin your brand before you even begin.
Finally, no one is going to buy a drugged up apple bleeding alcohol from some random dude off some beaten road just to get drunk. Doesn't that sound sketchy to you? I see what you mean. Problem is I have zero engineering expertise so making a machine is definitely not feasible for me. Perhaps if the diffusion problem proves too tricky I may switch to injecting vodka into sponge cakes. First make your alcoholic fruits, and then sell non alcoholic fruit for underaged kids so they dont feel left out in social situations.
Lol, these are they types of business partners I want.
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On September 28 2012 01:57 PiGStarcraft wrote:
A good tip for saving on costs is to recycle syringes. Just find your local heroin junkie-hangout and locate a syringe. Make sure you identify blood or fluid them so that you know they're used. On a good day you can find up to 30 syringes in just one crack-den. Save the environment, and enjoy the savings!
I would definitely by this product, especially if it's marketed in the right way. You should employ shirtless men to stand outside the airport vendoring and you'll make a killing on tourists buying them!
Seriously though, this seems like something that would be used for marketing some upper class restaraunt or nightclub. I don't see people wanting to stand around getting pissed wanting to eat vodka-oranges on a regular basis.
You could totally sell them at upscale nightclubs for $10 each.
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On September 28 2012 02:01 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 00:56 targ wrote:On September 28 2012 00:26 Cambium wrote:
you have to make sure it actually tastes good
i think it's going to be tricky to have alcohol evenly distributed in a fruit, you'd need to grow it with alcohol instead of water without having it chemically altered, which sounds like a pretty fucking hard problem (but will probably be figured out one day by some Japanese dude and sold for 1000000 JPY in Isetan)
Anyway, even if it does taste okay if you just randomly inject vodka into an apple, it sounds like it's going to involve a lot of manual labour or some serious investment into advanced machinery.
Assuming you go with manual labour since it's much easier to set up, as you don't have to invent a machine first. Given that you live in Malaysia, and I'm going to make an ignorant assumption that labour is relatively cheap there, you are looking at a serious crew if you want to turn this into a profitable business (meaning not something like a lemonade stand set up by a 5 year old) by any means. Then you have to deal with a slew of health regulations, sanitation of workstations, business registration, payroll, taxation, etc. Pricing such products may present another challenge. If the price is too high, no one will want to buy them, but you won't be able to make a profit (give the huge crew you have employed mass producing these products) if you make them too cheap. You also don't want to resort to cheaper raw materials, as they may ruin your brand before you even begin.
Finally, no one is going to buy a drugged up apple bleeding alcohol from some random dude off some beaten road just to get drunk. Doesn't that sound sketchy to you? I see what you mean. Problem is I have zero engineering expertise so making a machine is definitely not feasible for me. Perhaps if the diffusion problem proves too tricky I may switch to injecting vodka into sponge cakes. First make your alcoholic fruits, and then sell non alcoholic fruit for underaged kids so they dont feel left out in social situations.
F yeah!
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What if I want the alcohol but don't have time for fruit? Will you also sell fruit-less alcoholic fruits?
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This is really good as you can also use the hole for "other" things
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1. You need a big enough market to sell to.
I'm not sure there is a huge market for the "OMG I wish I had a presoaked/injected watermelon/apple/pear/peach/etc. right now."
2. This requires a liquor licence to distribute alcoholic beverages.
3. I wonder, are you planning on doing this locally and legit or is this an "off the books" kind of operation?
4. If it's an online venture, you'll have to look into the the purchasing of fruits, and the shipping of fruits. Which usually require refrigeration thus costing more.
I for one wouldn't buy injected fruit. It's simply to easy to do it yourself.
I actually put way to much thought into this response.
knock yourself out!
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people been doing this on their own for years bro. why would they pay for it?
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On September 28 2012 02:28 heyoka wrote:
What if I want the alcohol but don't have time for fruit? Will you also sell fruit-less alcoholic fruits?
This guy is on to something, maybe some alcohol pills or in some sort of beverage. You could even sell alcoholicfruits home-package where people inject theirs fruits themselves!
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On September 28 2012 03:12 Carapas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 02:28 heyoka wrote:
What if I want the alcohol but don't have time for fruit? Will you also sell fruit-less alcoholic fruits? This guy is on to something, maybe some alcohol pills or in some sort of beverage. You could even sell alcoholicfruits home-package where people inject theirs fruits themselves!
Then you end up with lawsuits because people start injecting alcohol directly into their eyeballs and shit.
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you're probably better off practicing your lovemaking skills so you can earn that 65 million grand prize
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Wouldn't all the vodka just spill out of the apple once you bite into it?
You would have to figure out a way to evenly distribute the alcohol throughout the entire fruit, maybe with something like multiple syringes shooting just a little bit into one area, or by somehow soaking the fruit in alcohol.
Other than apples, peaches, maybe pears, I don't see many other fruits you could do this with.
If you still think this is a good idea, don't open a bar just to do this. License(not sure if that's the right word) the idea out to other bars, and collect a royalty from all sales or something like that. Or... come up with a process that alcoholizes(lol) fruit really efficiently that nobody can figure out, then manufacture those fruits and sell them to the bars. I don't see a bar specializing in alcoholic fruit being very successful.
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On September 28 2012 04:01 Epishade wrote:
Wouldn't all the vodka just spill out of the apple once you bite into it?
You would have to figure out a way to evenly distribute the alcohol throughout the entire fruit, maybe with something like multiple syringes shooting just a little bit into one area, or by somehow soaking the fruit in alcohol.
Other than apples, peaches, maybe pears, I don't see many other fruits you could do this with.
If you still think this is a good idea, don't open a bar just to do this. License(not sure if that's the right word) the idea out to other bars, and collect a royalty from all sales or something like that. Or... come up with a process that alcoholizes(lol) fruit really efficiently that nobody can figure out, then manufacture those fruits and sell them to the bars. I don't see a bar specializing in alcoholic fruit being very successful.
Tell people that there is a secret ingredient that makes it better and helps the fruit flesh and alcohol taste blend. You don't have to actually add a secret ingredient - people will think its better simply due to placebo effect and they won't be able to replicate it at home due to the same placebo effect. The good thing about this product is after a few fruits they will be even more inclined to purchase them.
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There was a swedish comedy show where a character who was an alcoholic tried various solutions to being able to drink at work (they worked in a supermarket) and one of his solutions was to inject alchohol into the oranges and he would go around eating them all the time ^^
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Love the idea! But I have an improvement: What do you think about reversing it and putting some fruits in an alcoholic drink?
For example maybe some oranges and lemons into red wine with some spices? It probably looks like blood, maybe call it that. Or maybe use a spanish word for it.
Or just mix together a few random liquors like rum, vodka, gin, tequila, fill up with coke and put one single slice of orange in it .. I think people might like it!
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On September 28 2012 05:54 Konni wrote:
Love the idea! But I have an improvement: What do you think about reversing it and putting some fruits in an alcoholic drink?
For example maybe some oranges and lemons into red wine with some spices? It probably looks like blood, maybe call it that. Or maybe use a spanish word for it.
Or just mix together a few random liquors like rum, vodka, gin, tequila, fill up with coke and put one single slice of orange in it .. I think people might like it!
what you just described is called sangria and people in brazil have been doing it for years.
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