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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
September 07 2012 03:06 GMT
#1
In the spirit of GSL's 2nd anniversary I spent some time looking through Liquipedia for GSL statistics I was curious about, and thought why not put it into trivia form? Apologizes if some of these overlap with Tasteless and Artosis' trivia, I haven't had the chance to watch all of the latest GSL.

Also, since I focus on the higher rounds of GSL, this "quiz" isn't all that difficult for those who actively follow GSL.

First thing I noticed was an interesting trend concerning GSL finals.

These first three questions exclude the Open Seasons (GSLs 1, 2, and 3)
All questions include the World Championship, Super Tournament, and Blizzard Cup as GSL Code S events, and exclude Code A.

Only two GSL seasons featured a final between two previous finalists:

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The World Championships - Marineking vs MVP
October 2011 - MMA vs MVP


In addition, only two GSL seasons featured a final between two players who had both never been finalists:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Super Tournament - Polt vs MMA
November 2011 - jjakji vs Leenock


Every other season (9 in total) featured one player who had already been a finalist against one who had never. Of these, the up-and-comers only won twice:

+ Show Spoiler +
MVP over Marineking in January 2011
Seed over MC in 2012 Season 3


There has been 1 GSL in which a former runner-up defeated a former champion:

+ Show Spoiler +
MMA over Mvp in October 2011


Another interesting occurance had to do with semifinalists. Nearly every single one of the up-and-comers who have challenged previous finalists had not had a result better than the ro8.

There are 4 players who, having been a semifinalist, go on to make the finals; one of whom is unique

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MC
MVP
Nestea
MVP and Nestea were former champions before making the ro4 and subsequently won another championship, while MC was a former champion who subsequently was a finalist


The last of these is the only one who was not a former champion, and did not win in the finals

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TOP


There are 3 players who have improved from a ro8 finish to the finals:

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Inca
Losira
Genius


So with one exception, no non-champion semifinalists has ever made the jump to the finals. In fact, there seems to be a bit of a "curse" on GSL semifinalists.

There are 4 players who are repeat semifinalists:

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Jinro
Hongun
San
Byun
Of these, only Byun is still active in the GSL...


Among other semifinalists, 3 have at least made it back to the ro8:

+ Show Spoiler +
anypro
sC
Oz
Of these, only Oz is still active in the GSL...


However, there are 2 former semifinalists who are, as of this blog posting, still "alive" in Code S and therefore have a chance to break this "curse":

+ Show Spoiler +

DongRaeGu
HerO



Moving on...
There are two finalists who have walked the "royal road": they had never been in Code S before.

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MMA in the Super Tournament
Squirtle in 2012 GSL Season 2


Now for something a little easier.
There is only one player who has made it to the finals more than once but never won.

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Marineking


There are three players who have made it to the finals more than once, and won more than once.

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MVP
Nestea
MC


There are a final two players who have made it to the finals more than once, and won only once.

+ Show Spoiler +
MMA
DongRaeGu



Finally, a little something about the current GSL - There's a good reason for all the hype about this season - when Code S started, it featured a majority of all GSL finalists ever: 11 out of 19.

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Nestea
Marineking
MC
Mvp
Polt
MMA
Leenock
DongRaeGu
Genius
Squirtle
Seed


That got me wondering where the other GSL finalists were.

1 Code S finalist is currently in Code A:
+ Show Spoiler +
jjakji


6 are in Code B:
+ Show Spoiler +
Rainbow/HopeTorture
Rain
July
Inca
Losira
TOP


Finally, 1 is retired:
+ Show Spoiler +
Fruitdealer



My motivation for looking these things up was that I still couldn't shake that old feeling, abandoned by most by now, that GSL has lackluster finals.

Firstly, I have to concede that GSL doesn't exist in a vaccuum, some finalists bring hype from GSTL or foreign tournaments instead of Code S. Additionally, the sheer quality of the games in GSL finals has generally gone up, from the complete smashings we used to see constantly.

I found that I was correct in that few finals feature two "heavyweight" GSL players (previous ro4 or better). However, a surprising number of GSL finalists have remained relevant, and even those who are in Code B or are retirees are from relatively older seasons, making me hopeful for such finals going forward.

The future of GSL should be interesting, with a few distinct storylines:
The eternal question of whether a foreigner can finally match Jinro's achievement of a semifinals, or even reach the finals
Who among the KeSPA players can/will be the first to make a GSL finals or championship
Who among current players can join the ancient trio of Mvp, Nestea, and MC in the multiple trophy club - each got their second trophy by May of 2011, and there have been 9 GSLs since then for others to catch up...(if you don't count MMA's victory in the Blizzard Cup)

****
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2012 03:24 GMT
#2
Smashing job; I loved reading this. Thank you so much for putting it all together!
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 04:07:05
September 07 2012 04:06 GMT
#3
Rainbow is in military service afaik :d

Either way this was totally awesome ^^
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 07 2012 05:01 GMT
#4
Nice article, I enjoyed the read. I think you should include the Blizzard Cup as a GSL championship though, if we include the GSL World Championship I see no reason to not include Blizzard Cup.
jcvf
Profile Joined November 2011
36 Posts
September 07 2012 05:41 GMT
#5
On September 07 2012 12:06 jubil wrote:
Every other season (9 in total) featured one player who had already been a finalist against one who had never. Of these, the up-and-comers only won twice:

+ Show Spoiler +
MVP over Marineking in January 2011
Seed over MC in 2012 Season 3



I dont get this. So does this mean that + Show Spoiler +
MVP is the up-and-comer since he won 4-0 vs MKP at that time?
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 07:53:44
September 07 2012 07:48 GMT
#6
On September 07 2012 12:06 jubil wrote:
In addition, only two GSL seasons featured a final between two players who had both never been finalists:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Super Tournament - Polt vs MMA
November 2011 - jjakji vs Leenock


+ Show Spoiler +

You forgot the open seasons:

Fruitdealer vs Rainbow
Nestea vs MKP
MC vs Rain

neither of them had been finalists before.


edit: nevermind, i suck at reading -_-
Romanes eunt domus
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 07 2012 11:34 GMT
#7
On September 07 2012 12:06 jubil wrote:

There are a final two players who have made it to the finals more than once, and won only once.

+ Show Spoiler +
MMA
DongRaeGu


This statistic is fallacious. Either DRG has only ever been in one final which he won (2012 S1) or MMA has won 2 finals (October, Blizzard Cup), depending on whether you count blizzard cup or not. For DRG you count it and for MMA you don't.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 07 2012 16:19 GMT
#8
Good job, good read, thanks you !
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