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One thing before this starts, I couldn't post this blog for about a week so its a bit late. I'm sorry if this sounds pretentious, I'm sorry if you think I'm an idiot kid. This is candid, and I hope something resonates with you all.
Hey TL, this blog is going to be a bit of a downer much like the last one, I’m sorry for this string of sadness, but its something that I just can’t get out of my mind. I once again ask to draw on your collective experience in life to help me. I’m sorry that I did not write this right after the fact, but the truth is that I did not have such a rush of emotion until later, my blog will explain.
A warning, this blog is not about religion or whether or not god exists, etc. I’m not an especially religious person, but there are some ideals that have been implanted in me since my early youth. This blog is specifically about a quandary, not any kind of overarching religious doctrine. This is something so rooted in me that, though it makes me sound like a wuss, anyone can side with. This is a young man’s conundrum about the death of a great man and the life of an evil man.
Why God, Why?
Last week, KT_Violet died. I would be remiss not to say that I am not a BW vet. As you can see by my post count, and my account creation, I am not a guy who grew up with BW. I came to BW when SC2 came out. However, I recognize what an amazing BW is, I saw Proleague before the crazy hybrid thing started, and I most recently got to see Jangbi win the OSL, the last OSL. Yet, something remains impossible for me to describe. I felt a pain in my stomach when I heard KT_Violet died. It did not happen when I saw the headline, of course I gasped, but this occurred when I saw the headline that Luxury had become a domestic abuser. This just didn’t sit with me well.
the next paragraph is in the spoiler, but it is not the same as the other ones. You can read the blog just fine without this paragraph, but it will not have the same power, at least in my opinion. If you hate all religious people, don’t read it, but I’d still say give it a shot. You never know what will hit you as a poignant statement made by a naïve teen.
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WHY!? Why god why? My god, my god, why did you forsake Violet, and yet Luxury lives fairly scot free? I am a theist, and though my religion does not say that god is intrinsically good, it does say that god is slow to anger, quick to forgive. On the most important holiday, we fall before god to show that he shows us mercy and can take it away if need be. On Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish people say a prayer called Unetaneh Tokef, it says that god will choose who will live and who will die; most of all at the end the prayer stresses that with good deeds, prayer, and with charity the Jews will be able to change the Diaspora. This seems so contrary to what I have believed my entire life. This goes way beyond the question of why do bad things plague good people or why do good things bless bad people’s lives. Why would something so horrendous happen to someone so loved while a cheater and a domestic abuser lives fairly problem free other than his now impending jail sentence?
What makes this happen? I’m a teenager, I live a blessed life, Internet, food, love, life, and this shakes me to my core. I knew that my grandparents’ lives were less than charmed, much worse than dying of Cancer at a young age, death would probably have been welcome, and yet they didn’t have an end to their lives that was so abrupt. How can I possibly justify this occurrence to myself. I know that god is mysterious in his ways, not everything is straightforward, and the saying goes that there are 70 faces of the Old Testament; however, I cannot help but feel unfulfilled to say that this is where the answer lies.
KT_Violet was one of the few Korean Pros who actually talked on TL; he made an effort unique in that he displayed visible love to fans. Making several posts in semi-well written English, specifically directed at foreign fans, while practicing 12 hours a day, and doing whatever else a progamer need do in a day is much different than simply saying so for 3 seconds in a post game interview in Korean. He was a noticeably good guy. He might not have been a saint. He did not free slaves, he was not Toussaint L’Overteure, but he was a man who commanded fans of his work.
How do I reconcile my feelings
What I mean to say here is not should I believe in god, but rather, is this feeling natural. Is this questioning of my beliefs that happened after this occurrence normal? Is their any kind of reconciliation that occurs for the good other than people pay homage to their name rather than with talk about them with contempt?
Maybe I need to grow more to understand this, or maybe its just something I should shrug off, and yet I feel like this is an issue that will manifest itself in a different way across my life.
Songs to listen to while listening to this blog,
Death Cab for Cutie: I’ll Follow You Into the Dark
Unetaneh Tokef: Just YouTube it, and I believe there are English translated versions
John Mayer: Burning Room (this one may seem odd at first, but the feel of the song, the disillusion that one hears in the song is similar to what I kind of feel right now)
*alternative song for the above* The Wallflowers: One Headlight
  
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That's the thing. Sometimes bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, I don't understand why god had to take violet and not Justin Bieber. But i guess no one will never know why god does what he does. But I believe that god took violet because he wanted to watch violet play Starcraft for himself, so rest assured violet is practicing sc somewhere in heaven right now. But I don't think god will ever want Justin Bieber to sing for him, so Justin Bieber wont die until he's 102 years old. That's life
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That's why it's called faith, friend. Faith is about the blind, unreasonable belief that there is an invisible bearded man in the sky who, although omniscient and omnipotent, gives a shit about us. There is no reason, no thought and no evidence behind this notion, and that is what makes it so powerful, so wonderful and so despised by many more inclined towards reason, including present company.
In order to maintain your belief, that simple fact must be accepted. We are not in the middle ages anymore, where we can cover our eyes while priests whisper to us that the world is round and the sun rotates around the earth.
Religion is faith. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Someone loves auto 1-starring me -_-;;; that tests my faith lol. Also I think I understand that its about faith... its just, I've never seen this before, I've never seen such a drastic difference in the treatment of people.
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On September 03 2012 12:44 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
That's why it's called faith, friend. Faith is about the blind, unreasonable belief that there is an invisible bearded man in the sky who, although omniscient and omnipotent, gives a shit about us. There is no reason, no thought and no evidence behind this notion, and that is what makes it so powerful, so wonderful and so despised by many more inclined towards reason, including present company.
In order to maintain your belief, that simple fact must be accepted. We are not in the middle ages anymore, where we can cover our eyes while priests whisper to us that the world is round and the sun rotates around the earth.
Religion is faith. Nothing more, nothing less.
-- Sorry for being condescending - misinterpreted what you said! --
I'll be the first to say that I'm not religious in the slightest. I was raised in a Chirstian family, brought up with Christian values, and was Christian for the longest time. But I became conflicted and eventually became agnostic.
I don't know whether there truly is a God or not. But I do know that atheists who say that Christianity is all about some man in the sky are ignorant. They are ignorant because they don't understand the principles taught in the New Testament. They are ignorant because in order to support their arguments they take historical events out of context - crimes commited by corrupt denominations in the name of "God." Atheists use the words and actions of the ignorant and and misguided to argue in ignorance.
Those commiting atrocities in the name of Christ are at fault for much of the corruption, hatred, violence and lies throughout history. This corruption is responsible for twisting mankind's view on the principles of Christianity, and what it means to be a Christian.
Christianity - and not the church - calls for living a life of strength and righteousness, one of charity, kindness, and reason. The New Testament is a light that aids you in seeing the world and recognizing the pain of others. Through it, you gain compassion and understanding.
I don't care what you believe. But I know many good men, some the most intelligent I have ever known, who are Christian. They may place faith in something you can't bring yourself to believe, but they have struggled, bled and walked through this world living lives more honorable and courageous than most self claimed "atheists" and those "inclined towards reason" ever will.
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On September 03 2012 13:18 Qwyn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 12:44 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
That's why it's called faith, friend. Faith is about the blind, unreasonable belief that there is an invisible bearded man in the sky who, although omniscient and omnipotent, gives a shit about us. There is no reason, no thought and no evidence behind this notion, and that is what makes it so powerful, so wonderful and so despised by many more inclined towards reason, including present company.
In order to maintain your belief, that simple fact must be accepted. We are not in the middle ages anymore, where we can cover our eyes while priests whisper to us that the world is round and the sun rotates around the earth.
Religion is faith. Nothing more, nothing less. Eh? That's the opinion of every atheist. That's the core of your misguided belief. Don't go around "breaking" it to theists that God is just a man in the sky laughing his ass off at human troubles. I'll be the first to say that I'm not religious in the slightest. I was raised in a Chirstian family, brought up with Christian values, and was Christian for the longest time. But I became conflicted and eventually became agnostic. I don't know whether there truly is a God or not. But I do know that atheists who say that Christianity is all about some man in the sky are ignorant. They are ignorant because they don't understand the principles taught in the New Testament. They are ignorant because in order to support their arguments they take historical events out of context - crimes commited by corrupt denominations in the name of "God." Atheists use the words and actions of the ignorant and the foolish to argue in ignorance. Those acting in the name of Christ are at fault for much of the corruption, hatred, violence and lies throughout history. This corruption is responsible for twisting mankind's view on the principles of Christianity, and what it means to be a Christian. Christianity - and not the church - calls for living a life of strength and righteousness, one of charity, kindness, and reason. The New Testament is a light that aids you in seeing the world and recognizing the pain of others. Through it, you gain compassion and understanding. I don't care what you believe. But I know many good men, some the most intelligent I have ever known, who are Christian. They may place faith in something you can't bring yourself to believe, but they have struggled, bled and walked through this world living lives more honorable and courageous than most self claimed "atheists" and those "inclined towards reason" ever will.
Excellent post. Not sure I can add much, other than simply repeating the notion that judging people for their faith or lack thereof is an exercise in ignorance.
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On September 03 2012 13:18 Qwyn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 12:44 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
That's why it's called faith, friend. Faith is about the blind, unreasonable belief that there is an invisible bearded man in the sky who, although omniscient and omnipotent, gives a shit about us. There is no reason, no thought and no evidence behind this notion, and that is what makes it so powerful, so wonderful and so despised by many more inclined towards reason, including present company.
In order to maintain your belief, that simple fact must be accepted. We are not in the middle ages anymore, where we can cover our eyes while priests whisper to us that the world is round and the sun rotates around the earth.
Religion is faith. Nothing more, nothing less. Eh? That's the opinion of every atheist. That's the core of your misguided belief. Don't go around "breaking" it to theists that God is just a man in the sky laughing his ass off at human troubles. I'll be the first to say that I'm not religious in the slightest. I was raised in a Chirstian family, brought up with Christian values, and was Christian for the longest time. But I became conflicted and eventually became agnostic. I don't know whether there truly is a God or not. But I do know that atheists who say that Christianity is all about some man in the sky are ignorant. They are ignorant because they don't understand the principles taught in the New Testament. They are ignorant because in order to support their arguments they take historical events out of context - crimes commited by corrupt denominations in the name of "God." Atheists use the words and actions of the ignorant and the foolish to argue in ignorance. Those acting in the name of Christ are at fault for much of the corruption, hatred, violence and lies throughout history. This corruption is responsible for twisting mankind's view on the principles of Christianity, and what it means to be a Christian. Christianity - and not the church - calls for living a life of strength and righteousness, one of charity, kindness, and reason. The New Testament is a light that aids you in seeing the world and recognizing the pain of others. Through it, you gain compassion and understanding. I don't care what you believe. But I know many good men, some the most intelligent I have ever known, who are Christian. They may place faith in something you can't bring yourself to believe, but they have struggled, bled and walked through this world living lives more honorable and courageous than most self claimed "atheists" and those "inclined towards reason" ever will.
First of all, I'm a theist.
Second of all, by present company I meant much of TL, myself excluded. Probably was incorrect usage of the phrase.
Third of all, I meant for my post to carry a positive connotation in spite of the wording, using that contrast to better make my point. Of course, that probably doesn't work too well on the Internet in hindsight.
My post was in no way meant to be insulting to theists.
If you interpreted it that way, I'm sincerely sorry.
This is a personal belief of mine that I actually found quite liberating. I have a strong love for reason, and for the longest time had trouble reconciling that with my Christianity and the many faults it had, such as the one that the OP is noticing now. Eventually, I realized that religion and reason are different animals entirely, and so, instead of trying to make syrup and water mix, I just let them be themselves, and both managed to thrive because of it.
I am aware that this is a fairly radical idea, but it worked wonders for me, and I felt it would be wrong to not share it, because there is a possibility that it might help him as much as it helped me.
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On September 03 2012 13:46 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 13:18 Qwyn wrote:On September 03 2012 12:44 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
That's why it's called faith, friend. Faith is about the blind, unreasonable belief that there is an invisible bearded man in the sky who, although omniscient and omnipotent, gives a shit about us. There is no reason, no thought and no evidence behind this notion, and that is what makes it so powerful, so wonderful and so despised by many more inclined towards reason, including present company.
In order to maintain your belief, that simple fact must be accepted. We are not in the middle ages anymore, where we can cover our eyes while priests whisper to us that the world is round and the sun rotates around the earth.
Religion is faith. Nothing more, nothing less. Eh? That's the opinion of every atheist. That's the core of your misguided belief. Don't go around "breaking" it to theists that God is just a man in the sky laughing his ass off at human troubles. I'll be the first to say that I'm not religious in the slightest. I was raised in a Chirstian family, brought up with Christian values, and was Christian for the longest time. But I became conflicted and eventually became agnostic. I don't know whether there truly is a God or not. But I do know that atheists who say that Christianity is all about some man in the sky are ignorant. They are ignorant because they don't understand the principles taught in the New Testament. They are ignorant because in order to support their arguments they take historical events out of context - crimes commited by corrupt denominations in the name of "God." Atheists use the words and actions of the ignorant and the foolish to argue in ignorance. Those acting in the name of Christ are at fault for much of the corruption, hatred, violence and lies throughout history. This corruption is responsible for twisting mankind's view on the principles of Christianity, and what it means to be a Christian. Christianity - and not the church - calls for living a life of strength and righteousness, one of charity, kindness, and reason. The New Testament is a light that aids you in seeing the world and recognizing the pain of others. Through it, you gain compassion and understanding. I don't care what you believe. But I know many good men, some the most intelligent I have ever known, who are Christian. They may place faith in something you can't bring yourself to believe, but they have struggled, bled and walked through this world living lives more honorable and courageous than most self claimed "atheists" and those "inclined towards reason" ever will. First of all, I'm a theist. Second of all, by present company I meant much of TL, myself excluded. Probably was incorrect usage of the phrase. Third of all, I meant for my post to carry a positive connotation in spite of the wording, using that contrast to better make my point. Of course, that probably doesn't work too well on the Internet in hindsight. My post was in no way meant to be insulting to theists. If you interpreted it that way, I'm sincerely sorry. This is a personal belief of mine that I actually found quite liberating. I have a strong love for reason, and for the longest time had trouble reconciling that with my Christianity and the many faults it had, such as the one that the OP is noticing now. Eventually, I realized that religion and reason are different animals entirely, and so, instead of trying to make syrup and water mix, I just let them be themselves, and both managed to thrive because of it. I am aware that this is a fairly radical idea, but it worked wonders for me, and I felt it would be wrong to not share it, because there is a possibility that it might help him as much as it helped me.
It's all good man, sorry about that. I'll edit my post so that it is not so condescending towards you in the opening line. It was my fault to assume that you were atheist based off of what you said; because of the wording I did indeed misinterpret where you were coming from.
After people have come to organize their thoughts in regards to their religion, complete faith can be quite liberating.
But if you do read the text of the Bible, especially the New Testament, you will perhaps find that there is no reason why reason and the Bible cannot mix. I prefer to look at the words of the New Testament and apply the principles to my life, leave the prophecies as they will be to the fates, and live my life honestly, no matter my view or beliefs on God at the time - even now.
Live honestly and with compassion. Die without regret. Cheers!
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There is no pure feeling.
There is no absolute truth.
There is no guiding hand.
When we see god in ourselves
we see that great sea of emotion,
that endless ocean full of discoveries.
We feel taken away in the waves,
lose our sense of direction,
lose our humble and modest inflection.
All life will become death, and all that's dead will come to life.
The universe formed you in its birth; yet it has no preference
Indeed we're born from star stuff, and will return one day to that one sacred starry night of dreamless sleep.
From grizzled faces and hair in the stone age,
to cosmic voyaging ape-men
pass on the new generation.
From here to eternity, that's where she takes me.
She does...
She does...
She does...
With Love,
With Love.
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I see logic
She is reason
to me. Join eyes to see
Divinity.
Gods to mortal eyes
without remorse
to raise that immortal hand
and break.
Apart without understanding,
A heartbeat without caring,
A life lived never knowing -
What I was
and what I am.
When time has passed
and I began:
Upon this stormy sea
First breath drowning
And in my conviction,
I reach for water
and breathe in air.
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It's not an insult to refuse to drain the glass, she tells me
And a fly crawls from the bowl of sauza picante.
Would you choose to bury the organs with the child?
And he retreats to his room and closes the door.
Here, birds in the zocalo whiz and tweet like children's toys
And there, a charred corpse hanging from the bridge.
From the seat behind, the boy pokes his sister's head with a plastic fork
And getting no response, tests it on his own head.
Would you turn the damn wipers off, the attendant asks
And the odor of manure and wet hay hits us.
A kind of mystery gloms to those who have suffered deeply
And thank you Mr. and Mrs. Radiance.
It sounded like the chimmuck of a rock dropped into a stream
And the Piston-driven breathing of sex
The couple at the bus station-when had we kissed like that?
And Nice evening-Yes it is-A bit skunky-That's for sure.
Terrorist and victim circling the last chair as the music stops
And the valves of their mouths snapping open and shut.
When I rise out of myself into occasion, I said
And when do you rise out of yourself into occasion, she asked.
Late enough to count maple loopers and geometrids at the window
And the boy will be coming up the porch steps when he comes.
The long row of treadmills choiring
And above them, televisions replay disaster.
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As a candle I stand,
alone in the dark.
Scared wide-eyed, stark by
what we don't understand
The numenous is misunderstood:
The flower blooms and the demon booms.
Our father above all knowing yet never doing what he could.
I, as a candle in the dark,
in the demon haunted world
we have created. Begin to flicker,
to fade.
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I hear the crash of thunder,
The echo and
the furious far reaching
Storm.
Blind eyes,
Enraged eternal sacrifice -
Scarred mind set
By blood I break all ties.
Heedless. Righteous. Bitter
Is the word far-reaching
in ignorance
and sacrilege
By my hands I die.
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I hear the crash of sea lions,
The barks and
the furious fish eating
Frenzy.
Blind Guardian,
enraged Eternal Tears of Sorrow -
scarred television set
By feces I break all ties.
Tasteless. Slimy. MrBitter
is the defecation far-reaching
in the propulsion
of feculence.
By my diarrhea I die.
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On September 04 2012 03:46 superbarnie wrote:
I hear the crash of sea lions,
The barks and
the furious fish eating
Frenzy.
Blind Guardian,
enraged Eternal Tears of Sorrow -
scarred television set
By feces I break all ties.
Tasteless. Slimy. MrBitter
is the defecation far-reaching
in the propulsion
of feculence.
By my diarrhea I die.
Cute is your trolling
Annoying flies buzz around
Those words are tainted.
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OP, (minus the silly poems), questioning your beliefs is a normal thing, and if you discover the cause of your questions, (your fear) and realize why this exists (not because of what you believe, but because of what you are - human), then you often emerge stronger.
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Op was good ... the poems less.
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On September 04 2012 11:42 Marti wrote:
Op was good ... the poems less.
Hey, don't make me get mr bimbles in here.
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The fact that Jesus tried to heal the sick shows that is not God's will for everyone who gets sick to get sick (unless you think of God as a very twisted/irrational being). But, like you, I can't think of any half-way decent answer to the question of why Violet died from leukemia at such a young age. Non-Calvinistic pastors tend to respond with something along the lines of "bad things happen because we live in a fallen world, where people and angels are given free will and therefore the ability to do evil" but that doesn't explain why God would give non-human agents the power to affect people's health (and cause cancer) in the first place.
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