• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:36
CEST 01:36
KST 08:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War375.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202621Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
We built a tool to spot smurfs at match start 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Repalyzer - replay analysis app for StarCraft: Rem Rollback Netcode in Brood War Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7776 users

[VID] Thoughts on SC1 to SC2 transition in Korea

Blogs > Moletrap
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
August 12 2012 18:14 GMT
#1
Posting my video blog in a text blog, but hopefully people can discuss or ask questions here if you want.



**
aka Moletrap
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
August 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#2
Great! :D Watching xD
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
August 13 2012 00:04 GMT
#3
"Brood War has been stagnant in the last couple of years"

Excuse me, are you fucking insane?
Moderator<:3-/-<
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 00:20:46
August 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#4
Lol. You should go back to casting SC2. I preferred it when you couldn't pay your rent; that way, you can't upload these atrocious videos.
All you care about are views.

I'm surprised and offended that TVing let someone like you cast in the final OSL

Squalid; that's what you are.
☺
fxsoldier
Profile Joined July 2012
68 Posts
August 13 2012 00:16 GMT
#5
brood evolved so much actually, so you probably havent watched any in a long long time ;d
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
August 13 2012 00:31 GMT
#6
Can someone provide a text summary of the video? I can't watch it at the moment.
Moderator
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 13 2012 00:35 GMT
#7
mvp was NOT that close to flash/jaedong he was far behind way way behind their leve, the level u chose would have been someone likel sea who was a monster back then and mvp rarely got chosen for matchs, woongjin stars terran...LOL mvp was no where near sea back then
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 00:37:05
August 13 2012 00:36 GMT
#8
I recommend you don't watch it. He just wants bw viewers to tune into his channel.

I haven't watched it, and just from the posts here, i can glean that this video is complete bullshit and a desperate attempt to get views.
☺
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 13 2012 00:37 GMT
#9
This was cringeworthy.
Nymphaceae
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States350 Posts
August 13 2012 01:20 GMT
#10
I don't think MVP was close to being Jdongs or flash's level. You don't think July was close to Flash's or Jdong's level?
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
August 13 2012 01:26 GMT
#11
On August 13 2012 09:04 IntoTheWow wrote:
"Brood War has been stagnant in the last couple of years"

Excuse me, are you fucking insane?

Where is the real moletrap and what have you done with him?!
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 13 2012 01:37 GMT
#12
On August 13 2012 10:26 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:04 IntoTheWow wrote:
"Brood War has been stagnant in the last couple of years"

Excuse me, are you fucking insane?

Where is the real moletrap and what have you done with him?!

That is the real moletrap and we should hang him and bury him

User was temp banned for this post.
☺
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 13 2012 01:39 GMT
#13
my summary of his vid
his "why" bw is dead
no sponsers and in the end its a business and it has no more potential even if people have a passion for it, the sponsers see sc2 as the future. He stopped watching bw since the beta of sc2 came out only recently started again feels like he still understands what's happening and therefore bw has become too stagnant. so sponsers won't want to invest into a game that doesn't get "exciting"(non-standard) games.

All the producers and coworkers at OGN love bw soo much but there's no money in it and they accept it has to die, he says the top of the chain don't feel like they get enough money from bw so they are switching to sc2 even tho the low teir workers would still love to continue with bw

thinks split league is genesis because from a business stand point it can take the bw fans and get them into sc2 as in Korea bw>sc2 in popularity, as it all comes down to the fans

believes only the top/best OSL players are mechanically superior than gsl players
his ranking of MVP back in bw compared to flash and jaedong
-flash
-jaedong


-MVP



-Hyun/forgg





-boxer
about 6-12 months to still OSL players are on the same level as gsl players
had a interview with stork and bisu and they said they are practicing sc2 nearly 100%
he is looking forward to flash and jaedong raising the sc2 skill bar when they catch up
sc2 needs new mechanics to make it exciting like bw eg: reaver shuttle micro
-----the end
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
August 13 2012 02:37 GMT
#14
Meh, thanks for the summary.
Moderator
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 13 2012 03:16 GMT
#15
I used to defend you against the cunty SC2 people that would trash you. Nomore.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 13 2012 03:24 GMT
#16
Poll: Should Moletrap leave the Brood War scene?

Yes, now, and never come back (35)
 
90%

Yes (3)
 
8%

Yes and now (1)
 
3%

39 total votes

Your vote: Should Moletrap leave the Brood War scene?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Yes and now
(Vote): Yes, now, and never come back

☺
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 03:47:52
August 13 2012 03:45 GMT
#17
On August 13 2012 09:08 Release wrote:
Lol. You should go back to casting SC2. I preferred it when you couldn't pay your rent; that way, you can't upload these atrocious videos.
All you care about are views.

I'm surprised and offended that TVing let someone like you cast in the final OSL

Squalid; that's what you are.


On August 13 2012 09:36 Release wrote:
I recommend you don't watch it. He just wants bw viewers to tune into his channel.

I haven't watched it, and just from the posts here, i can glean that this video is complete bullshit and a desperate attempt to get views.


On August 13 2012 10:37 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 10:26 jpak wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:04 IntoTheWow wrote:
"Brood War has been stagnant in the last couple of years"

Excuse me, are you fucking insane?

Where is the real moletrap and what have you done with him?!

That is the real moletrap and we should hang him and bury him


On August 13 2012 12:24 Release wrote:
poll]


Damn kid you are so mad rofl, how about giving some decent criticism instead of " we should hang him and bury him".
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 13 2012 04:09 GMT
#18
On August 13 2012 12:45 Megaliskuu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 13 2012 09:08 Release wrote:
Lol. You should go back to casting SC2. I preferred it when you couldn't pay your rent; that way, you can't upload these atrocious videos.
All you care about are views.

I'm surprised and offended that TVing let someone like you cast in the final OSL

Squalid; that's what you are.


On August 13 2012 09:36 Release wrote:
I recommend you don't watch it. He just wants bw viewers to tune into his channel.

I haven't watched it, and just from the posts here, i can glean that this video is complete bullshit and a desperate attempt to get views.


On August 13 2012 10:37 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 10:26 jpak wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:04 IntoTheWow wrote:
"Brood War has been stagnant in the last couple of years"

Excuse me, are you fucking insane?

Where is the real moletrap and what have you done with him?!

That is the real moletrap and we should hang him and bury him


On August 13 2012 12:24 Release wrote:
poll]


Damn kid you are so mad rofl, how about giving some decent criticism instead of " we should hang him and bury him".

Don't feel like watching the vid.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole thing is bull

User was warned for this post
☺
P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 04:27:17
August 13 2012 04:10 GMT
#19
On August 13 2012 12:24 Release wrote:
Poll: Should Moletrap leave the Brood War scene?

Yes, now, and never come back (35)
 
90%

Yes (3)
 
8%

Yes and now (1)
 
3%

39 total votes

Your vote: Should Moletrap leave the Brood War scene?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Yes and now
(Vote): Yes, now, and never come back



what scene? have you seen the lr's theres like 5 people posting

and wtf you havent watched it yet your bashing it based on other peoples opinions?
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
August 13 2012 04:26 GMT
#20
You guys know, all bw turned sc2 casters are like this. They get all impressed with the SC2 scene because all of a sudden the spotlight is on them. Back in the bw days where they would upload stuff on youtube and get 1000 views. It's only natural for them to forget about the past.

You really shouldn't criticize moletrap anymore than people like tasteless, artosis, and day[9]. Those 3 have said enough cringe inducing moments to broodwar fans that you can make a movie.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
CranKy Ducklings58
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 195
ProTech134
ViBE126
SpeCial 13
StarCraft: Brood War
910 72
NaDa 20
Dota 2
monkeys_forever422
canceldota171
League of Legends
Doublelift3772
Other Games
summit1g5527
C9.Mang0389
JimRising 385
ToD125
PPMD41
JuggernautJason30
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick786
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 88
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP44
• poizon28 29
• musti20045 23
• RyuSc2 22
• Adnapsc2 0
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra795
Other Games
• imaqtpie1152
• Shiphtur576
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
10h 25m
Rex vs INexorable
GgMaChine vs HeRoMaRinE
Reynor vs herO
AI Arena Tournament
17h 25m
BSL: Ladder Tournament
19h 25m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
Patches Events
1d 15h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 19h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Online Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-08
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.