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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 20:36:50
August 11 2012 20:36 GMT
#21
On August 12 2012 02:56 aTnClouD wrote:
SC2 is really a fucked up game based a lot on luck. There's a ton of horrible players winning money over way better ones. Nothing to do about it, that's what Dustin Browder wanted. Giving bad players a chance to beat good ones so the casual non competitive players would be happier to keep buying the game and advertising it to their friends.


Well what horrible players are making money at major tournaments? In lan tournaments results seem pretty consistant for a lot of the good players so I kinda have to disagree with you ^_^. (unless you think you are better then the players who do good at lan events which would be silly).
When I think of something else, something will go here
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
August 11 2012 20:39 GMT
#22
I learn the erra of my ways

Erryday, erryday
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 12 2012 13:49 GMT
#23
On August 12 2012 02:56 aTnClouD wrote:
SC2 is really a fucked up game based a lot on luck. There's a ton of horrible players winning money over way better ones. Nothing to do about it, that's what Dustin Browder wanted. Giving bad players a chance to beat good ones so the casual non competitive players would be happier to keep buying the game and advertising it to their friends.

I already read that from someone ... Oh wait, it was you already ! Nobody is forcing you to play, I heard poker is easy money, maybe you should reflect upon your career choice.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
August 12 2012 14:37 GMT
#24
On August 12 2012 02:56 aTnClouD wrote:
SC2 is really a fucked up game based a lot on luck. There's a ton of horrible players winning money over way better ones. Nothing to do about it, that's what Dustin Browder wanted. Giving bad players a chance to beat good ones so the casual non competitive players would be happier to keep buying the game and advertising it to their friends.

yeah, its a shame how strong Terran all ins are ...
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Epoch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 15:09:48
August 12 2012 15:09 GMT
#25
based on luck? hope that's a troll.

cloud, i hope you are joking. aren't you like some D level 'pro'? that's the kind of mindset you have? arent you the dude who was arguing with thorzain at homestory cup while you guys were casting about terran? pretty sure thorzain knows how to play terran. pretty sure he actually wins stuff and competes at a high level and luck doesn't have anything to do with it.

you have a ridiculous ego.

if it was based on luck the same players wouldn't be consistently at the top. and foreigners would have better results in general. they'd be getting lucky and knocking out koreans in these big foreigner fields with a few token koreans. but what usually happens when 8 koreans enter a tournament? we see 6-7 of them in the final 8 along with stephano or 1 other elite foreigner.

it must be so easy to tell yourself (speaking to everyone) that it's luck based. that's your ego trying to protect itself from harm.

this game isn't poker. and even poker with the inherent luck is still a skill based game where the best players win the most money.
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