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On July 07 2012 11:14 Flip9 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2012 10:56 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 10:17 Flip9 wrote:On July 07 2012 08:25 r.Evo wrote:
...and once you learn to tune your sexuality into a way that's not OMG IM SO HORNY YOYOYO but more subtle instead you start to have women falling for you without even trying. You really seem to know what you're talking about, so I', gonna ask you: If you just get to know a girl and you want her, what should you do? How do you tell her that your sexually interested in her without coming of as needy or desperate? I'd recommend getting used to women and getting used to being physical around them. It can be just small stuff like boxing her arm when she makes a stupid comment and saying "hey!" or tipping her thigh when you're trying to shut her up so you can talk. =P I lack this skills, I can approach them but almost always get friendzoned. I guess I just come off boring, I also don't talk that much. Seems like I should work on my social skills. The really, really cookie cutter version would be: Treat her like a male buddy you're having fun with and add physical contact.If a male buddy makes a dumb comment, you tease him for it. If he tells you that he has sore muscles, you're like HAHAHAHA GG. However, if he tells you his pet died you will probably try to lighten him up a little bit. If he asks you to buy him a drink you might ask him if he just lost his job and then do it anyway while teasing him with that for the rest of the night. People who are "bad" with women suddenly act completely different in the presence of a female. If she makes a dumb comment, it might get ignored as if it didn't happen and if she tells you about sore muscles you might be like "Oh, wow. Did you try this or that to make it better?" and if she wants a drink you bring her five through the entire night - stop that. She's not some kind of authority figure that you have to please. You're not her pet dog. Don't try to be one. The hard part in the long run is the balance between being a huge pussy and a huge dick (LOL). The former don't escalate and treat the girl as a godess, the latter come off as pushy and treat her like a random piece of meat (I'm obviously exaggerating but I guess you get the point). Show nested quote +How do you tell her that your sexually interested in her without coming of as needy or desperate? Personally I like to tease a lot. It's a mix of busting her balls whenever I can, switching to serious mode for a while and then going back to busting her balls and having fun again - all while I just physically escalate in the meantime. If you two are having fun for an hour straight and you already have your arm around her half the time and just started massaging her neck kissing is no big deal anymore. HOWEVER, that's what works for me personally and it also attracts the type of girls I enjoy and most of those I don't like will run as fast as they can. In theory the "correct" approach would be to tease as much as you can (e.g. a shy girl would be able to take much less), escalate as quickly as you can (shy girl in a bookstore != chick in short skirt on a dancefloor) and calibrate yourself to the environment. Imo the easiest way to come off as needy/desparate is to do things for her because you expect something in return. It's okay buying her a drink if you want to buy her one. It's not okay if it's your way of buying five minutes of her time. It's alright to invite her to a dinner at a restaurant, it's not fine if you expect her to spread her legs for it. That's why it's usually a good advice to not do much more for her than what she does for you. "Hey, I'll go get myself a drink - what do you want?" is totally cool and casual, getting up just to bring her a drink is a lot more cheesy. Personally I like to play games with her which end up with her paying for the first round or establishing some kind of "this one is on me, next one is on you". =P Same attitude applies to anything you can/should do for her or for what she might ask of you. Answering "Yes, sure" to "Gniihihihi can you hold my purse while I go to the dancefloor?!?!" just makes you look like an idiot - unless you put it down on the table and turn around talking to someone while she still watches. wow, thank you for taking your time to write that detailed. The examples are helpful too
r.Evo is a computer man
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On July 07 2012 10:49 Flip9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 10:44 opsayo wrote:
yep i am sure a forum full of virgins and people married the first girl who got their dick wet is a place for advice
harsh reality I know that going out and getting own experience is the best thing, however a forum can still be hepful. I also wouldn't say that everyone here are that sort of people you just described.
you're right, not everyone is like that. but a lot of them are, and the human condition is that everyone wants to give advice
this thread is a good example of seeing some people giving some pretty terrible advice
i got a warning :-(
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On July 07 2012 10:23 Elegance wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 10:17 Flip9 wrote:On July 07 2012 08:25 r.Evo wrote:
...and once you learn to tune your sexuality into a way that's not OMG IM SO HORNY YOYOYO but more subtle instead you start to have women falling for you without even trying. You really seem to know what you're talking about, so I', gonna ask you: If you just get to know a girl and you want her, what should you do? How do you tell her that your sexually interested in her without coming of as needy or desperate? There is no shortcut cookie-cutter build for this stuff. You just have to BE a little better if not, get better.
Yes there is. Stop fapping.
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So, as an update, a friend of mine thought it would be so fucking funny to tell Felicity about this post. Yes, she now knows about this and read it.
(Yes, every one of us has THAT kind of a friend...)
Recieved a message via Facebook:
"Hello.
I want you to know I read what you wrote about me.
It's sad to know of you after such a long time in this way.
I didn't know you thought of me in such a way. To tell the truth, I felt really sad when you just told me to fuck off. I questioned myself if the pining and sadness was because I had lost a friend or if I was actually developing feelings for you cause I couldn't stop thinking about you either... But being the huge dick you were by leaving me like that, I just don't know anymore. That is gone. And I'm angry and hurt. I'm the victim here. I might have played with your feelings, that is not up to you or me to decide, but you were a dick by leaving me alone like that.
If you ever want to contact me again for whatever reason, I'll be here. But bear in mind, I don't think we'll be able to be friends or anything ever again."
Fucking Felicity, man... :/
It seems I was actually right on letting go in the 1st place.
Bitches be crazy.
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On July 08 2012 10:47 UmbraaeternuS wrote:So, as an update, a friend of mine thought it would be so fucking funny to tell Felicity about this post. Yes, she now knows about this and read it. (Yes, every one of us has THAT kind of a friend...) Recieved a message via Facebook: Show nested quote +"Hello.
I want you to know I read what you wrote about me.
It's sad to know of you after such a long time in this way.
I didn't know you thought of me in such a way. To tell the truth, I felt really sad when you just told me to fuck off. I questioned myself if the pining and sadness was because I had lost a friend or if I was actually developing feelings for you cause I couldn't stop thinking about you either... But being the huge dick you were by leaving me like that, I just don't know anymore. That is gone. And I'm angry and hurt. I'm the victim here. I might have played with your feelings, that is not up to you or me to decide, but you were a dick by leaving me alone like that.
If you ever want to contact me again for whatever reason, I'll be here. But bear in mind, I don't think we'll be able to be friends or anything ever again."
Fucking Felicity, man... :/ It seems I was actually right on letting go in the 1st place. Bitches be crazy.
You both got hurt by each other, more by bad luck / wrong decisionmaking then intentionally tho.
But its too late to go back and fix this now.
I can understand that velocity got angry too, just suddenly cutting all contacts with someone is not the way to go, and thats especially true if you know someone good.
Here is what a good friend is:
A true friend would understand his friend, forgive him and not hold his mistakes against him. To your friends you shouldn't say anything that you know they will be disturbed by. A good friend would sympathize, he would always advice his friend in a positive direction, a good friend would never backstab somebody. A good friend would take his friends fault and probably cover it up rather than revealing and making fun of his friend.
The above post from Felicity shows no sympathize, no forgiveness, and she posted it knowing it would hurt you. Shes trying to revenge, which is obviously the wrong way.
To the "friend" who posted her this article: Good job, you hurt your friend and possibly lost his trust just for some "fun".
You can just hope that your friend is wise enough to forgive you, and then you should give your best to treat him better in the future if you are interested in staying friends.
There's a saying: "Its better to have an intelligent enemy then to have an stuipd friend."
Reading all this remembers me how good I have it. I just have 1 friend, for 10 years now, but he is a true friend.
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On July 08 2012 12:26 Flip9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 10:47 UmbraaeternuS wrote:So, as an update, a friend of mine thought it would be so fucking funny to tell Felicity about this post. Yes, she now knows about this and read it. (Yes, every one of us has THAT kind of a friend...) Recieved a message via Facebook: "Hello.
I want you to know I read what you wrote about me.
It's sad to know of you after such a long time in this way.
I didn't know you thought of me in such a way. To tell the truth, I felt really sad when you just told me to fuck off. I questioned myself if the pining and sadness was because I had lost a friend or if I was actually developing feelings for you cause I couldn't stop thinking about you either... But being the huge dick you were by leaving me like that, I just don't know anymore. That is gone. And I'm angry and hurt. I'm the victim here. I might have played with your feelings, that is not up to you or me to decide, but you were a dick by leaving me alone like that.
If you ever want to contact me again for whatever reason, I'll be here. But bear in mind, I don't think we'll be able to be friends or anything ever again."
Fucking Felicity, man... :/ It seems I was actually right on letting go in the 1st place. Bitches be crazy. You both got hurt by each other, more by bad luck / wrong decisionmaking then intentionally tho. But its too late to go back and fix this now. I can understand that velocity got angry too, just suddenly cutting all contacts with someone is not the way to go, and thats especially true if you know someone good. Here is what a good friend is: A true friend would understand his friend, forgive him and not hold his mistakes against him. To your friends you shouldn't say anything that you know they will be disturbed by. A good friend would sympathize, he would always advice his friend in a positive direction, a good friend would never backstab somebody. A good friend would take his friends fault and probably cover it up rather than revealing and making fun of his friend. The above post from Felicity shows no sympathize, no forgiveness, and she posted it knowing it would hurt you. Shes trying to revenge, which is obviously the wrong way. To the "friend" who posted her this article: Good job, you hurt your friend and possibly lost his trust just for some "fun". You can just hope that your friend is wise enough to forgive you, and then you should give your best to treat him better in the future if you are interested in staying friends. There's a saying: "Its better to have an intelligent enemy then to have an stuipd friend." Reading all this remembers me how good I have it. I just have 1 friend, for 10 years now, but he is a true friend.
I doubt the friend meant to hurt him. Maybe he just felt that the guy should have been honest, and that the best case would be to get everything out all at once.
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man what kinda delivery was this!!!!!!?
"Hi. Felicity? I need to talk to you. Now. I've been dying to tell you this for over two years. I fucking love you. Not like 'OMG YOU ARE THE BEST FRIEND EVER' but 'OMG I LOVE YOU, like, LOVE you... "
nonononono, but you knew that! Sigh well I could tell all convos were pretty shit after that and awkward as fuck if this was the beginning. Anywho when she told u to meet her and shit that was RAW what a bitch, I hope you didnt meet with her more than that one time oh god i hope you didnt. I'm glad that youve realized it though but she's just playing with you man.
Furthermore, that messaged you gave her was downright brutal but meh makes sense given what she's done but it kinda sounds a tad creepy that you went all that way to meet her, talk to her, yada yada.
I dont blame you for falling either though some girls are just plain awesome especially the first! if this is your first real interest, as they all say there will come another though so keep up!
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On July 08 2012 10:47 UmbraaeternuS wrote:So, as an update, a friend of mine thought it would be so fucking funny to tell Felicity about this post. Yes, she now knows about this and read it. (Yes, every one of us has THAT kind of a friend...) Recieved a message via Facebook: Show nested quote +"Hello.
I want you to know I read what you wrote about me.
It's sad to know of you after such a long time in this way.
I didn't know you thought of me in such a way. To tell the truth, I felt really sad when you just told me to fuck off. I questioned myself if the pining and sadness was because I had lost a friend or if I was actually developing feelings for you cause I couldn't stop thinking about you either... But being the huge dick you were by leaving me like that, I just don't know anymore. That is gone. And I'm angry and hurt. I'm the victim here. I might have played with your feelings, that is not up to you or me to decide, but you were a dick by leaving me alone like that.
If you ever want to contact me again for whatever reason, I'll be here. But bear in mind, I don't think we'll be able to be friends or anything ever again."
Fucking Felicity, man... :/ It seems I was actually right on letting go in the 1st place. Bitches be crazy.
Lol... so after all this, all she has to say after this is how cruel you were to her, and on top of that she teases you by saying she might have developed feelings at one point too, but now its too late har har
fucking felicity
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Don't be that quick to look for and shoot the criminal, yes, victimizing herself was borderline narcissistic behavior (that plus lack of empathy, relentlessly accusing, dragging you along) but then again the OP should also take a hefty amount of blame on himself. Not being judgemental, however he needs to understand such codependency is not normal. Even if he manages to get into a relationship, going in head first in this current state is the best recipe for failure. Not failure, disaster.
You think not getting the girl and feeling down about it sucks? Try ending a clingy-narcissist relationship.
Read this http://therawness.com/reader-letters-1-part-1/ . Don't fast scroll, pay attention to part 1-5.
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On July 08 2012 10:47 UmbraaeternuS wrote:So, as an update, a friend of mine thought it would be so fucking funny to tell Felicity about this post. Yes, she now knows about this and read it. (Yes, every one of us has THAT kind of a friend...) Recieved a message via Facebook: Show nested quote +"Hello.
I want you to know I read what you wrote about me.
It's sad to know of you after such a long time in this way.
I didn't know you thought of me in such a way. To tell the truth, I felt really sad when you just told me to fuck off. I questioned myself if the pining and sadness was because I had lost a friend or if I was actually developing feelings for you cause I couldn't stop thinking about you either... But being the huge dick you were by leaving me like that, I just don't know anymore. That is gone. And I'm angry and hurt. I'm the victim here. I might have played with your feelings, that is not up to you or me to decide, but you were a dick by leaving me alone like that.
If you ever want to contact me again for whatever reason, I'll be here. But bear in mind, I don't think we'll be able to be friends or anything ever again."
Fucking Felicity, man... :/ It seems I was actually right on letting go in the 1st place. Bitches be crazy.
First of all, your friend is a douche.
Stick to your guns - you were near-obsessed with a girl who wasn't giving you the time of day. Your execution left a lot to be desired, but you she knows and let you go. You've made the wise decision to move on.
Yeah, it's REALLY difficult. You need to keep living your life and as you change and improve yourself she becomes less and less important. This means you actually have to get out and try a few new things. Mix up your routine, play some different games, hang out with a different crowd, and/or pick up a new hobby. As you keep living your life she becomes more a thing of the past making it easier to move on.
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Wow, that message is just... I can't believe that even after reading this blog she still tries to play with you, what a bitch dude. I know she seems like the best girl ever, but almost everyone once had a Felicity, and everyone ended up with a way better girl. There's just a point where you start to see that she wasn't all that great, and that the "love" was more of an obsession.
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On July 09 2012 04:31 Arcanefrost wrote:
Wow, that message is just... I can't believe that even after reading all this she still tries to play with you, what a bitch dude. I know she seems like the best girl ever, but really almost everyone once had a Felicity once, and everyone ended up with a way better girl. There's just a point where you start to see that she wasn't all that great and that the "love" was more of an obsession.
You got me to re-read that note and i have to agree, maybe i'll try deconstruct it. If so i'll probably edit this message.
"Hello.
I want you to know I read what you wrote about me.
It's sad to know of you after such a long time in this way.
I didn't know you thought of me in such a way [He told you he loved you? Last i checked those words aren't really thrown around]. To tell the truth, I felt really sad when you just told me to fuck off [You didn't tell her to fuck off, over exaggeration much?].
I questioned myself if the pining and sadness was because I had lost a friend or if I was actually developing feelings for you cause I couldn't stop thinking about you either... But being the huge dick you were by leaving me like that [playing victim, trying to make you feel guilty. Hmm], I just don't know anymore. That is gone. And I'm angry and hurt. I'm the victim here [She's the victim? Please, more guilt tripping.]. I might have played with your feelings [Notice the 'might', won't admit that she truly did play with you], that is not up to you or me to decide, but you were a dick by leaving me alone like that [And more guilt tripping again]
If you ever want to contact me again for whatever reason, I'll be here [trying to take the moral high ground?]. But bear in mind, I don't think we'll be able to be friends or anything ever again.[Then why bother allowing him to contact you? Likes your attention? Wants you to give her what she wants, friendship/ear to listen, but not what you want, romantic relationship.]"
I think you're lucky you came out the way you did, from what i can read from messages and what you've said. She is way more trouble than she's worth. Imagine being in a relationship with her, she probably wouldn't admit responsibility for things going wrong. Shifting the blame to external factors (you, someone else, her job etc). Hell she might also dump all her problems on you as well, dragging you along with her.
Anyway that's all i can pick up from this, obviously take it with a grain of salt. I'm not an expert.
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Where did I put my cyanide pill...
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You played the cards wrong bro. Ofc, ive had a felacity as well, so I know what your going through. Been in a 2 year depression after that but now I'm over it and ive been able to perform better than ever because I know the meaning of rock bottom.
Basically, you both made mistakes and need to move on OR make a stand right now. But by reading your responses of hate I doubt that will be possible. Not sure why your hating so much: You basically told her to fuck off if she didnt love you back without really taking your time to play your hand well. She's not entirely wrong by saying what she says.
With me, Its not that I didn't get the girl, but her becoming my ex (breaking up). We both made mistakes, but she played victim and kept talking me guilt till I broke and just went INSANE on her with verbal abuse etc. Thing is, she was approached by a stalker same time and he managed to take advantage of her. Thats the point I really started hating her and the point I couldn't go back to her. Since then I think every girl is an attention craving whore that would dive in bed with the biggest retard as long as the conditions are right. Yes, she messed me up badly.
Long story short, best way to go now is to break off contact forever and continue living and making the best out of everything. YOU DO need to self-reflect and learn from the mistakes, because it's rarely only her fault. Girls will never admit, but girls don't have balls so w/e. Learn from your mistakes, and hope you'll do better next time!
OR be like me.... forever alone T___T
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Well I had a 1,5yr relation after that but the concept of love seems really vague for me now.....
P.S. My story happened when I was 19-20 or so, now I'm 23, I quit school because of her, started smoking cigs, wasted 2 years in my room, but since then I managed to get reaaaally far in terms of carreer.
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On July 07 2012 01:01 CopperLeague wrote:
You gotta be horny.
Do you think about having sex with this girl? If you're like most men in this situation, you don't. What you want is to kiss her, hold her close, hold her hand, talk to her while she's sitting next to you. You don't want to have sex.
But women are sexual creatures. Yes, so are men, but we have porn. And porn isn't as good as sex, but it's close. So it kills our sex drive. We want to hang out with girls to hold their hands – not to have sex. Girls are like men without porn. They need sex and hand holding. This girl knows you won't deliver on the sexual end because you've never been horny with her. Instead you talk about how you love her.
I know it's true. But when you only want affection from a girl, you will never be more than friends.
The solution to this problem? Start seeing her in a horny light. Picture her in your mind naked. Picture her sucking your dick. Picture fucking her.
Then tell her you can't stand having her around because of how horny she makes you, and how it's all her fault. "Why did you delete me on Facebook?"
"Because I get so horny whenever I think about you I can't function. It's not my fault. Look what you've done to me. I can't sleep at night. I just roll around all night because I'm so fucking horny."
Then she says, let's just talk like we used to. Then you say, that's impossible, whenever I talk to you I get so horny I can't control myself. It's best for both of us if you stay away – maybe I can get some sleep at night.
Does this girl live near you? If not, what are you doing?
If so, either she'll want to hang out with you or she'll go her own way. Why would she want to hang out with you? Because your new behavior intrigues her. She could SENSE you weren't horny before – that you just wanted to play with her hair and whisper sweet things into her ear. But now you are horny and it turns her on. Girls love it when guys are so into them they can't control themselves.
So she wants to hang out. You say, "no. You can't come over. I'll get so horny I won't be able to help myself. I'm like a fucking predator."
And if she doesn't come over, no problem – you were just friends with her anyways. You haven't lost anything (except her friendship, which—let's face it—is not what you want, no matter how much you tell yourself). If she does come over, your relationship goes to a new level: the sexual relationship.
This is the only method that works to get out of the friend zone. It's not 100%, but it works pretty damn well. It's because you're showing this girl you're a man. And that's what she wants. It's biology, use it to your advantage.
And stop looking at porn.
Aaah, had a good chuckle. Funny shit man, funny shit. Might as well work!
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On July 07 2012 11:15 Elegance wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 11:14 Flip9 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2012 10:56 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 10:17 Flip9 wrote:On July 07 2012 08:25 r.Evo wrote:
...and once you learn to tune your sexuality into a way that's not OMG IM SO HORNY YOYOYO but more subtle instead you start to have women falling for you without even trying. You really seem to know what you're talking about, so I', gonna ask you: If you just get to know a girl and you want her, what should you do? How do you tell her that your sexually interested in her without coming of as needy or desperate? I'd recommend getting used to women and getting used to being physical around them. It can be just small stuff like boxing her arm when she makes a stupid comment and saying "hey!" or tipping her thigh when you're trying to shut her up so you can talk. =P I lack this skills, I can approach them but almost always get friendzoned. I guess I just come off boring, I also don't talk that much. Seems like I should work on my social skills. The really, really cookie cutter version would be: Treat her like a male buddy you're having fun with and add physical contact.If a male buddy makes a dumb comment, you tease him for it. If he tells you that he has sore muscles, you're like HAHAHAHA GG. However, if he tells you his pet died you will probably try to lighten him up a little bit. If he asks you to buy him a drink you might ask him if he just lost his job and then do it anyway while teasing him with that for the rest of the night. People who are "bad" with women suddenly act completely different in the presence of a female. If she makes a dumb comment, it might get ignored as if it didn't happen and if she tells you about sore muscles you might be like "Oh, wow. Did you try this or that to make it better?" and if she wants a drink you bring her five through the entire night - stop that. She's not some kind of authority figure that you have to please. You're not her pet dog. Don't try to be one. The hard part in the long run is the balance between being a huge pussy and a huge dick (LOL). The former don't escalate and treat the girl as a godess, the latter come off as pushy and treat her like a random piece of meat (I'm obviously exaggerating but I guess you get the point). Show nested quote +How do you tell her that your sexually interested in her without coming of as needy or desperate? Personally I like to tease a lot. It's a mix of busting her balls whenever I can, switching to serious mode for a while and then going back to busting her balls and having fun again - all while I just physically escalate in the meantime. If you two are having fun for an hour straight and you already have your arm around her half the time and just started massaging her neck kissing is no big deal anymore. HOWEVER, that's what works for me personally and it also attracts the type of girls I enjoy and most of those I don't like will run as fast as they can. In theory the "correct" approach would be to tease as much as you can (e.g. a shy girl would be able to take much less), escalate as quickly as you can (shy girl in a bookstore != chick in short skirt on a dancefloor) and calibrate yourself to the environment. Imo the easiest way to come off as needy/desparate is to do things for her because you expect something in return. It's okay buying her a drink if you want to buy her one. It's not okay if it's your way of buying five minutes of her time. It's alright to invite her to a dinner at a restaurant, it's not fine if you expect her to spread her legs for it. That's why it's usually a good advice to not do much more for her than what she does for you. "Hey, I'll go get myself a drink - what do you want?" is totally cool and casual, getting up just to bring her a drink is a lot more cheesy. Personally I like to play games with her which end up with her paying for the first round or establishing some kind of "this one is on me, next one is on you". =P Same attitude applies to anything you can/should do for her or for what she might ask of you. Answering "Yes, sure" to "Gniihihihi can you hold my purse while I go to the dancefloor?!?!" just makes you look like an idiot - unless you put it down on the table and turn around talking to someone while she still watches. wow, thank you for taking your time to write that detailed. The examples are helpful too r.Evo is a computer man
Just to add my 2 cents:
I agree with the entire teasing thing. I haven't had much luck with girls, but the times when I feel like I've gotten closest is when I'm most comfortable with myself, comfortable around her, cracking jokes and comments like I would with guy buddies. Occasionally my brain goes into the OH_MY_GOD_SHE'S_SO_BEAUTIFUL_AND_I_CAN'T_THINK mode where as soon as Felicity walks into the room suddenly my higher functions are impaired... but that's begun to happen less and less to me. I think the most important thing is to have a reasonable amount of self-assurance (which is by far the best word I've found for it: you don't want to be arrogant, and you might not be at all confident. But you can be self-assured), and everything will work fine from there. You have to accept the fact that this girl might not be The One for you, so if it doesn't work out, then that's fine, and if it does work out, that's great as well. There's no way you can lose by just being friendly (friendly to everyone! Including guys and girls you're not attracted to). Just don't go overboard (and if you notice yourself getting obsessive, then tell your brain to COOL DOWN BRO and play some Starcraft)
GL and HF all =)
On July 17 2012 07:34 Dagobert wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 01:01 CopperLeague wrote:
You gotta be horny.
Do you think about having sex with this girl? If you're like most men in this situation, you don't. What you want is to kiss her, hold her close, hold her hand, talk to her while she's sitting next to you. You don't want to have sex.
But women are sexual creatures. Yes, so are men, but we have porn. And porn isn't as good as sex, but it's close. So it kills our sex drive. We want to hang out with girls to hold their hands – not to have sex. Girls are like men without porn. They need sex and hand holding. This girl knows you won't deliver on the sexual end because you've never been horny with her. Instead you talk about how you love her.
I know it's true. But when you only want affection from a girl, you will never be more than friends.
The solution to this problem? Start seeing her in a horny light. Picture her in your mind naked. Picture her sucking your dick. Picture fucking her.
Then tell her you can't stand having her around because of how horny she makes you, and how it's all her fault. "Why did you delete me on Facebook?"
"Because I get so horny whenever I think about you I can't function. It's not my fault. Look what you've done to me. I can't sleep at night. I just roll around all night because I'm so fucking horny."
Then she says, let's just talk like we used to. Then you say, that's impossible, whenever I talk to you I get so horny I can't control myself. It's best for both of us if you stay away – maybe I can get some sleep at night.
Does this girl live near you? If not, what are you doing?
If so, either she'll want to hang out with you or she'll go her own way. Why would she want to hang out with you? Because your new behavior intrigues her. She could SENSE you weren't horny before – that you just wanted to play with her hair and whisper sweet things into her ear. But now you are horny and it turns her on. Girls love it when guys are so into them they can't control themselves.
So she wants to hang out. You say, "no. You can't come over. I'll get so horny I won't be able to help myself. I'm like a fucking predator."
And if she doesn't come over, no problem – you were just friends with her anyways. You haven't lost anything (except her friendship, which—let's face it—is not what you want, no matter how much you tell yourself). If she does come over, your relationship goes to a new level: the sexual relationship.
This is the only method that works to get out of the friend zone. It's not 100%, but it works pretty damn well. It's because you're showing this girl you're a man. And that's what she wants. It's biology, use it to your advantage.
And stop looking at porn. Aaah, had a good chuckle. Funny shit man, funny shit. Might as well work!
Hahhahaaa, good stuff... hahaha =P
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if you buy anything she typed in that response to you then you've learned nothing
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Jumping ladders is hard. You made the right moves, but in the wrong order.
You shouldn't have told her you loved her, then handled rejection by cutting her off.
You should have cut her off, first. If she is interested in being with you then she'll ask you what's up, rather than the other way around. If she asks you, don't say you liked her. Invite to hang out at your place. If she says no, then she's not interested in you. If she says yes, show her your affections rather than telling her. When she shows up, cook her something nice, feed her wine, watch a movie with her. If that doesn't get you where you want things to go then she's not interested in you--so just show her out the door and don't talk to her again. If she says yes, well, you have successfully jumped ladders.
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"I might have played with your feelings, that is not up to you or me to decide"
What the fuck? GOOD RIDDANCE.
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