• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:04
CET 06:04
KST 14:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational12SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1554 users

My damned body - Page 2

Blogs > Aerisky
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 07 2012 12:56 GMT
#21
Hey man, I have had pneumothoraces in the past, so I'll let you know my experience, and I'm gonna be honest. Click the spoiler if you wanna prepare yourself, or just ignore it haha.

3 years ago, I had a pneumothorax on my left lung. Had a procedure almost identical to yours (except they didn't stick the tube in for 3-4 days after... That came later) and went home. A few weeks later it recurred. Turns out it was another bubble (I'm not sure why your doctors scared you so much haha), they did the same procedure with the tube this time, nothing happened for a few days (lung didn't fully reinflate) and they transferred me to another hospital to perform actual surgery on me. I suspect this surgery is the one you're going to undertake. Click the spoiler if you wanna know what happens. I'll be honest, you might not like what you read, then again, it might not be as bad as you think.

+ Show Spoiler +
Basically they cut off the portion of your lung with the bubbles, and stick the lung to the top of the chest cavity with some sort of special substance, so that it won't collapse again.

After the operation, I had a tube that was attached to the box thing that connections to the suction nozzle on the wall (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about haha) coming out of the side of my chest where they made the incision to get in. It's purpose was to suck out the blood/fluid that was collecting since they operated on the lung. They will not let you out of hospital until they are confident that there is no more blood/fluid collecting (the box can measure how much is coming out of you), and that your lung stays inflated. Finally,. they'll take the tube out (it actually forks into 2 parts going into you, because they made 2 incisions).

I'm not gonna lie. The post surgery stay sucks (it varies, but for me it lasted around 7 days?). First, it obviously hurts to have the tube in you 24 hours of the day. They hooked me up to painkillers through an IV drip that was constantly pumping it into my back, a morphine drip which I could control with a button, and gave me painkillers (morphine based) every 2-3 hours if I needed it) Your movement is restricted as well (gotta carry the box around with you everywhere and drag the pole with the IV drips attached to it). I experienced this 3 times. After the surgery on the left, my right lung had a small but recurring collapse on the right side a year later, and was advised to have the same surgery. Did it, there was an infection during the surgery, and had to go through the whole post surgery thing again. On the plus side, I'm all good now


Basically, I know what it feels like. It sucks wondering if you'll keep having these episodes. But the surgery you're gonna get is designed to stop it from ever happening again, as opposed to the procedure you had done originally. Just try to stay positive, and look forward to a pneumothorax free life after this
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 13:13:17
July 07 2012 13:08 GMT
#22
Thanks for the info yo!! Holy crap.....so it recurred that many times for you?! T___T I already know that there's a high chance of recurrence if you get two, but I'm really afraid I'm going to get many many pneumothoraces and that they won't go away without a permanent surgery (as in your case). There's a moderate chance that you'll be able to grow out of them given time. There will probably be several more occurrences but provided they are relatively minor, there's a chance that they'll eventually end without having to undergo a major surgery.

But fuck...I'm so afraid of pain it's not even funny. When I was prepped for the first surgery my entire body started to shake uncontrollably...and wow, that's a lot of painkillers for the post surgery.

I know what you're talking about for the "big" or permanent surgery thanks to googling and PMs--it's called pleurodesis. I'm just hoping I don't have to go through that and that I'm able to recover just with the chest tubes and eventually get better which is possible. Pleurodesis usually is performed if they think you're going to get many recurrences or they think that it's going to develop into something very serious. Really scared now that I know pleurodesis hurts so much... ;__; fortunately you don't lose much lung function and it essentially prevents this from happening again but....ugh... :/
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 13:23:50
July 07 2012 13:22 GMT
#23
Yeah, my left side collapsed 3 times in total before the surgery (the first time was about 4 years ago, I had the EXACT same symptoms but never got it checked out, hurt quite a bit in certain positions but thought it would just go away, which it did). So the doctors suggested I get the surgery. The right side on the other hand, had 2 small collapses, and they were tiny, but the doctor suggested I get it because it recurred and I agreed, did not want to deal with it getting worse. I think it all depends on your doctor and whether they're conservative or not. My health insurance also covered it, so it wasn't too hard to make the decision to just get it done on the right side. And yeah it's called a pleurodesis, there are different forms of it though as I'm sure you found out.

A great way to deal with the pain is to keep yourself distracted. I stocked up on anime on my laptop and the hospital I was at had wireless. Finished pretty much the entire FMA Brotherhood series in hospital, and researched parts for the computer I was planning to build. Reminding yourself how sweet it's gonna be when you're finally out helps too haha. If you wanna ask anything or just wanna talk about it feel free to PM or just post here. I'd be happy to help.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 07 2012 13:29 GMT
#24
hahaha, FMA Brotherhood is great! And yeah, you don't realize how awesome your life is until something happens that prevents you from doing a lot of things. I hope I won't have to have the pleurodesis in the end but we'll see I guess. One step at a time T_T

Thank you very much for the help and the offer! Just resting right now, apparently it's not urgent and I'm really hoping that it gets good enough that I won't require a chest tube monday before I go back to the states. Depending on how it seems, I might indeed go for the pleurodesis too back in the US, but I'm definitely very scared of the coming pain. Watching SC and tennis it's easy to take my mind off of it, but once I'm in the hospital for the pleurodesis I'll probably start getting a bit worried knowing about the coming pain, and once I'm on the hospital bed I'll be all tensed up and ready to cry ;_____; even a potential chest tube worries me.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 07 2012 13:41 GMT
#25
When are you going back to the US again? I was told I couldn't fly for about 10 weeks (I think, can't remember) after the first procedure with the tube because of the air pressure in the plane. And don't worry about pain during the actual surgery (if you even need it), you'll be knocked out haha. And everyone gets nervous I'm sure. The second time they put the needle thing into me (so before the pleurodesis) i was freaked the crap out. It didn't help when I heard the following exchange between the doctors (this was in the ER, with ER doctors who hadn't prepared for this, not specialists so this won't happen to you lol)

"I can't quite seem to get it into the leak"
"It's not going? push harder"
"I think I'm hitting his rib"

I could effing feel it scraping my rib at that point lol. Then they told me it wasn't working and they had to use the tube, and I was effing scared when they showed it to me too. I think that procedure is scarier than the actual surgery. It's just the post surgery experience that sucks. But hey, I had the surgery, your pneumothorax could very well fix itself and you could outgrow it. Stay positive
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 07 2012 13:53 GMT
#26
Oh, when I go back to the US depends on what the doctors tell me. After the very first and only procedure so far (1 month ago, right before I left for China on schedule, chest tube) the doctors told me I could go to the China within a week, which is what happened... :x

And ah, they knock you out for the pleurodesis? That's a bit better to know, and it's especially good to know the that chest tube procedure is scarier than the pleurodesis because I was damn scared during chest tube >___< I think I might be able to deal with the recovery pain from pleurodesis better as well with things to distract me and whatnot~

Yeah, I'm definitely trying to stay positive. We'll see what happens. Thanks so much man!! I'm so grateful for teamliquid, seriously. You're awesome ^^
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 07 2012 15:25 GMT
#27
Glad to help
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Rongyi Cup S3 - Group D
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 215
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 206
Snow 107
Shuttle 79
ZergMaN 48
Noble 28
GoRush 12
Icarus 11
Bale 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever495
NeuroSwarm127
febbydoto14
League of Legends
JimRising 953
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King289
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor140
Other Games
summit1g12623
WinterStarcraft461
ViBE156
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1308
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH137
• practicex 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21610
League of Legends
• Scarra2412
• Lourlo789
Other Games
• Shiphtur100
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
5h 57m
herO vs ShoWTimE
Solar vs Classic
Wardi Open
8h 57m
Monday Night Weeklies
11h 57m
OSC
18h 57m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
RongYI Cup
1d 5h
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs Creator
WardiTV Invitational
1d 8h
Replay Cast
2 days
RongYI Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.