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m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
May 14 2012 20:51 GMT
#21
brood war is also a sick sick name. So much better than wings of derpatron.
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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 14 2012 20:52 GMT
#22
On May 15 2012 05:05 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 04:30 blubbdavid wrote:
For the same reaons why SCtoo is called SCtoo. So that we can distinguish.

Oh man soon it will spread like a disease, i mean BW is ScToo.


But if BW is SCToo, then what are we going to call SCToo?

On an more serious note, I agree with Chef. BW makes it more distinct from that other game.
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laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
May 14 2012 20:53 GMT
#23
On May 15 2012 05:49 CaucasianAsian wrote:
i just call starcraft 1 (broodwar) star1, and starcraft 2 is star2. much easier to say "star one" than "es see one" or "star two" instead of "es see two", cuts away a whole syllable!


Pretty sure this is what koreans use iirc?
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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 14 2012 20:54 GMT
#24
On May 15 2012 05:49 CaucasianAsian wrote:
i just call starcraft 1 (broodwar) star1, and starcraft 2 is star2. much easier to say "star one" than "es see one" or "star two" instead of "es see two", cuts away a whole syllable!


That is how koreans say it. Pronouncing "Brood War" is hard for them, so they just say it like that.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 14 2012 21:02 GMT
#25
On May 15 2012 04:39 Gogleion wrote:
People used to call it sc more often than bw before sc2 was a big deal, but now everyone calls it bw just so it's not confused with sc2.

This is pretty much it.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 14 2012 21:04 GMT
#26
Well, nowadays, I just assume people mean SC2 when they say starcraft, and I will usually just say starcraft to refer to SC2. BW however means SC1 as it's played today. Thing is, vanilla starcraft wasn't balanced and is pretty much not worth a dime except for the campaign. BW is simply the game you play.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
May 14 2012 21:28 GMT
#27
I agree with each and every post that came before me.
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Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
May 14 2012 22:24 GMT
#28
Vanilla was barely playable, so it's a lot different than just an expansion, it basically brought a pretty garbage game and turned it into (arguably) the best game to have ever been created.

I always called it Broodwar because it asked whether you wanted to play vanilla or BW on start-up though, maybe that's just me.
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Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
May 14 2012 22:43 GMT
#29
hmm i think because the term "Brood War" sounds awesome, whereas starcraft is kinda meh. BW = hardcore badassery, starcraft = some game thats kinda cool i guess

broodwar by any other name wouldn't sound as l33t
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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
May 14 2012 23:27 GMT
#30
Don't think alot play vanilla that much anymore.
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Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
May 14 2012 23:51 GMT
#31
On May 15 2012 04:28 Zandar wrote:
If that's right in a few years the column header on the left will be "Legacy of the Void" instead of Starcraft 2
You really think so?


It is essentially a different game, so yeah I will probably call it HotS to anybody who plays the game but still SC2 to people who don't play it.
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yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
May 15 2012 00:09 GMT
#32
Yep, it's probably a mix of a lot of the reasons given, plus "Brood War" sounding cool to put it over the top.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
May 15 2012 00:14 GMT
#33
Nobody actually calls it WoL... Why would they call it HotS?
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
May 15 2012 00:24 GMT
#34
I can relate to CaucasianAsian's way, it's easier that way
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JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 15 2012 00:45 GMT
#35
Agree with CaucasianAsian, been using that for as long as I can remember
Only time I bother saying BW, SC2, etc is around friends who dont know what Star1 and Star2 refer to

As for the actual BW vs SC thing, I've always used them interchangeably, and I still do
When I want to talk about SCII: WoL, I just say Star2 or SCII
I have a feeling that when SCII: HotS comes out, itll be abbreviated to just SCII because people will assume that someone playing SCII will have the latest expansion (or at least that's how I'm going to refer to/treat it)
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10252 Posts
May 15 2012 00:57 GMT
#36
no one likes vanilla because it was horribly unbalanced, while BW is very balanced :D also, since BW came out very shortly after vanilla, everyone jumped into BW and just started saying BW instead of SC1.
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
May 15 2012 02:13 GMT
#37
probably been already answered but the reason is to distinguish it from sc2 i think.

Just think back on it. Before sc2 came out, im sure most people just said stuff like "do you play starcraft?" If you say that now, its ambiguous which game you are talking about.
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
May 15 2012 02:32 GMT
#38
On May 15 2012 04:47 heyoka wrote:
Before SC2 was around "Starcraft" and "Brood War" were used interchangeably, convention here on TL was slightly more towards using BW but hardly noticeable. I think you're just wrong in how War3 isn't/wasn't referred to as TFT, because within the Warcraft community it was always called RoC/TFT on the big Warcraft sites, saying a generic "WC3" is something you only see when it's discussion from outside that space. It's common from within communities to use the most specific terminology possible whereas anything less specialized will tend towards the more generic SC1/WC3 stuff.

It's pretty likely people will start referring to the expansion as HotS to avoid confusion between games when discussing what's happening now vs what happened a year ago.


I agree, what you've said is true, and most probable. I played WC3/RoC/TFT for a long while, and I'd always have to say RoC or TFT to people who knew the games to differentiate, hardly ever did you say WC3, unless you were making generalizations. Especially once a few years has gone by, the difference is very large as you have an old game which is largely stagnant and the new expansion which has basically taken over, so it's only natural for the expansion to most likely take the name in the end.
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
May 15 2012 03:00 GMT
#39
On May 15 2012 05:49 CaucasianAsian wrote:
i just call starcraft 1 (broodwar) star1, and starcraft 2 is star2. much easier to say "star one" than "es see one" or "star two" instead of "es see two", cuts away a whole syllable!

But this is the internet where we type stuff.

BW is easier than Star1, and SC2 is easier than Star2.
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