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grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
May 02 2012 19:25 GMT
#221
Thanks for writing what I think. I could not have worded it half as well and no one would have read it.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#222
On May 03 2012 04:12 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 01:08 nicotn wrote:
On May 02 2012 15:23 Whatson wrote:
On May 02 2012 14:23 Jinsho wrote:
Again you're posting some nonsense in order to be popular and edgy, much like your so called bronze adventures you value so highly, which was just you trolling around bronze players with some edgy as fuck "humourous writing".

This reminds me of the FGC desperately trying to weasel their way out of the sexual harassment and racism debacles by claiming that they're not esports. They're so grassroots man, you wouldn't understand. It's always been part of the scene man. You wouldn't understand. That's how we do things here man. You wouldn't understand. It's tough living in the hood man and that's how things are and id you don't like it then you're not part of our community.

I wish you weren't part of the SC2 community. Do go play single player. Come back once you've learned that the world does not revolve around you and your funny and edgy antics. Esports will do fine without you.

Lol i wish you weren't part of the SC2 community either, your blatant hate for individuals is detrimental to any kind of argument you have. Come back once you've learned that the world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions...The world in general will do fine without you.
See what i did there?

I personally miss the days when not everything in the video-gaming world revolved around the pro-gamers. Does anybody remember how fun BW was when it was a game played almost entirely for casual entertainment? It was only later that people decided to make money off of it...


Then PLAY it like casual entertainment.... no-one is stopping you from casually playing with your friends, im sorry, but are you just so stupid you don't see that?

LOL do you ladder at all?
No shit i ONLY play team games with my friends now, ladder matches almost always end up in BM fests anyways. Where's the fun in that?


As someone who actively plays on EU and NA, the "bm" fest comment is bullshit. You can just say that 1v1 ladder feels empty/stale/pointless/frustrating. 95% of games I play either have well mannered players or people who leave without gg, which is perfectly acceptable in my mind.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 19:40:11
May 02 2012 19:27 GMT
#223
It's funny how so many people come here and post without reading the thread. It's already been discussed why things like "Whats stopping you from ignoring the supposed blight that is esports and just playing the game and discussing it with friends?" don't apply.

If you're going to put the effort into posting in a thread, please do us all a favor of reading the entire thread before posting. If the thread is something like 100 pages, then I understand that you'll probably only read the first few pages / last few pages before posting. This thread is only 11 pages. If your opinion is so unimportant that you can't be bothered to read the whole 11 pages, then it's not important enough for us to spend time reading it either.

e: well it became 12 while I was writing this post, but the point remains.
SpearWrit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 19:45:58
May 02 2012 19:38 GMT
#224
The amount of butthurt and misunderstanding in this thread is staggering.
Alot of people do not understand that Gheed likes competitive gaming, the tournaments, the fun, the passion, the concept that gamers can make money from winning. Gheed dislikes "E-Sports"- the drama, the bullshit, the taking everything way too seriously, the taking of oneself way too seriously.

But I suspect that even this blatant explanation will go over many peoples' heads.

EDIT: As the gentleman below me appears, point in case.
EDIT2: Never mind. The person below simply lacks in mental facuilties in a general sense.
"Special Tactics is...make surprise for your enemy, and also...eh, still work." -White-Ra
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
May 02 2012 19:43 GMT
#225
couldn't even read after you hope sc2 dies and shit.. sad day when u post on teamliquid how you want esports to die... when that as a community wants it to grow and be legitimized. So many ppl feel the same way and that is even more scary.. You said "fun" never enters the minds of ppl your right because in some ppl the mind works different would u rather work a retail job and take shit from a manager for 8 hours everyday.. or stay at home play video games and make money.. hmmmmm.... don't think you get that ppl that are really really pros treat this like an everyday job. and sometimes no FUN is not the answer... winning is. if you want FUN go play XBOX .. don't play PCgames ?
WELCOME TO THE PARTY
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 02 2012 19:45 GMT
#226
--- Nuked ---
SpearWrit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States300 Posts
May 02 2012 19:48 GMT
#227
On May 03 2012 04:45 Dattish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 04:38 SpearWrit wrote:
The amount of butthurt and misunderstanding in this thread is staggering.
Alot of people do not understand that Gheed likes competitive gaming, the tournaments, the fun, the passion, the concept that gamers can make money from winning. Gheed dislikes "E-Sports"- the drama, the bullshit, the taking everything way too seriously, the taking of oneself way too seriously.

But I suspect that even this blatant explanation will go over many peoples' heads.

I think we're more butthurt over the fact that he just bashed sc2 into the ground.


And this is you
taking everything way too seriously,

and
this blatant explanation will go over many peoples' heads
like you.
"Special Tactics is...make surprise for your enemy, and also...eh, still work." -White-Ra
Pimmeh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands120 Posts
May 02 2012 19:52 GMT
#228
I don't know...
I feel like we need some 'banner' to unify on.
The more money we see flowing into the scene, the better the entertainment value has become.
At least, that's the way it is for me.

Aside from all the drama, all the name calling, I still love the fact that above all else, players are admired for their skills.
Zeetee
Profile Joined December 2010
United States153 Posts
May 02 2012 19:52 GMT
#229
I hope all the sponsors pull out when they realize that marketing $200 dollar video cards to 16 year-olds too cheap to even pay for GomTV subscriptions is actually not a very good business plan.




i think advertising to 16 year olds is a great plan... i know i definitely had my most expensive computer parts back in the days when i was getting birthday/christmas presents from my parents. and when every penny i made was disposable income. i assume 16-22 year old males are the leading demographic for 200$ video cards....
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 02 2012 19:55 GMT
#230
On May 03 2012 04:26 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 04:12 Whatson wrote:
On May 03 2012 01:08 nicotn wrote:
On May 02 2012 15:23 Whatson wrote:
On May 02 2012 14:23 Jinsho wrote:
Again you're posting some nonsense in order to be popular and edgy, much like your so called bronze adventures you value so highly, which was just you trolling around bronze players with some edgy as fuck "humourous writing".

This reminds me of the FGC desperately trying to weasel their way out of the sexual harassment and racism debacles by claiming that they're not esports. They're so grassroots man, you wouldn't understand. It's always been part of the scene man. You wouldn't understand. That's how we do things here man. You wouldn't understand. It's tough living in the hood man and that's how things are and id you don't like it then you're not part of our community.

I wish you weren't part of the SC2 community. Do go play single player. Come back once you've learned that the world does not revolve around you and your funny and edgy antics. Esports will do fine without you.

Lol i wish you weren't part of the SC2 community either, your blatant hate for individuals is detrimental to any kind of argument you have. Come back once you've learned that the world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions...The world in general will do fine without you.
See what i did there?

I personally miss the days when not everything in the video-gaming world revolved around the pro-gamers. Does anybody remember how fun BW was when it was a game played almost entirely for casual entertainment? It was only later that people decided to make money off of it...


Then PLAY it like casual entertainment.... no-one is stopping you from casually playing with your friends, im sorry, but are you just so stupid you don't see that?

LOL do you ladder at all?
No shit i ONLY play team games with my friends now, ladder matches almost always end up in BM fests anyways. Where's the fun in that?


As someone who actively plays on EU and NA, the "bm" fest comment is bullshit. You can just say that 1v1 ladder feels empty/stale/pointless/frustrating. 95% of games I play either have well mannered players or people who leave without gg, which is perfectly acceptable in my mind.

Maybe for you, but whenever I play half the time it ends up being a balance discussion argument in the middle of the game, which then carries on through chat into the next for whatever reason. Another 25% of the time ends with "fucking newb l2p, Protoss/Terran/Zerg OP race" which just gets really annoying after the third or fourth time.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
May 02 2012 19:56 GMT
#231
I agree with Jinro, this thread is retarded. If you don't like ESPORTS but still like the game then just play. I hate when people have to write blogs about things they dislike instead of just doing what they like. Kind of ironic.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
May 02 2012 19:58 GMT
#232
I don't think I have ever seen anybody genuinely say "for esports" or "killing esports".
Agaz
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway11 Posts
May 02 2012 19:59 GMT
#233
its amazing how stupid people are on the internett.
ITS A RETARD MAGNET
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 20:04:59
May 02 2012 20:02 GMT
#234
On May 03 2012 04:58 Gorlin wrote:
I don't think I have ever seen anybody genuinely say "for esports" or "killing esports".


You obviously don't read this forum enough.

I will concede, however, that "hurting esports" is used more than "killing esports." Just look at the Destiny thread from yesterday X.X
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
eisenhoward0
Profile Joined September 2011
United States22 Posts
May 02 2012 20:03 GMT
#235
You cynical sad man. Over analyzing every tidbit. I agree, let's all play and have fun, let Destiny say whatever he wants, but I enjoy tournaments and castings and all the awesome things related to eports. I do not, however, like idiots. Idiots are the ones flaming people for no reason, setting a standard for something that doesn't exist.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
May 02 2012 20:06 GMT
#236
On May 03 2012 04:38 SpearWrit wrote:
The amount of butthurt and misunderstanding in this thread is staggering.
Alot of people do not understand that Gheed likes competitive gaming, the tournaments, the fun, the passion, the concept that gamers can make money from winning. Gheed dislikes "E-Sports"- the drama, the bullshit, the taking everything way too seriously, the taking of oneself way too seriously.

But I suspect that even this blatant explanation will go over many peoples' heads.


What you and the OP fail to realize is that the drama, the bullshit, the nitpicking, the name calling, the taking everything way too seriously and the taking of oneself way to seriously is a general problem with society and it is found in major and established sports as well.

You don't need to dig much to uncover sex scandals, racism scandals and other kind of bullshit related to real sports as well. So the entirety of the argument is irrelevant, if you want to hate on something, hate on this sick and twisted part of society don't bash on esports.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Tuxedo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States134 Posts
May 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#237
I couldn't disagree more. You assume to much. You assume that I started playing starcraft out of a desire to have fun casually. I don't just like to play video games as you say.. In fact no other video game interests me. I don't have fun when I play Skyrim or D3. In fact, I don't purchase games like that. The only games I purchase or download or play at all are ones that have a potential to be competitive. When I bought starcraft, I didn't click on single player! In fact I've never played a single player mission of the campaign. Not even one.

Anyway, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I hope you have fun playing video games while I get ready to watch the next big gsl match, and buy tickets to everything on the planet to support esports.
Dat Ax! I bleed Infinity Seven Black
Vash_SC2
Profile Joined January 2012
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 20:12:32
May 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#238
Why is this post getting attention? Sc2 is actually a pretty bad game, but man this post is just bad. Mods love drama on TL or something, it's just ridiculous. I can't wait untill NASA sends a bunch of rockets filled with morons into the sun. One can only hope ^_^

Edit: Destiny>TL Cu!
"Own-ed" - CatZ
WhalesFromSpace
Profile Joined March 2012
390 Posts
May 02 2012 20:17 GMT
#239
I don't like mouths filtered by paychecks.
Nihility
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 20:21:50
May 02 2012 20:19 GMT
#240
Ok at least i know im not the only one who has really started to hate the direction ESPORTS is taking.

On May 03 2012 05:10 Schwang wrote:
I couldn't disagree more. You assume to much. You assume that I started playing starcraft out of a desire to have fun casually. I don't just like to play video games as you say.. In fact no other video game interests me. I don't have fun when I play Skyrim or D3. In fact, I don't purchase games like that. The only games I purchase or download or play at all are ones that have a potential to be competitive. When I bought starcraft, I didn't click on single player! In fact I've never played a single player mission of the campaign. Not even one.

Anyway, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I hope you have fun playing video games while I get ready to watch the next big gsl match, and buy tickets to everything on the planet to support esports.


Wait what? So you don't enjoy the video games but you continue to buy then O_o?
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
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