EPTTop 30 Foreigners (List 2 April12) - Page 3
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1sz2sz3sz
Andorra173 Posts
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
Now, aside from Idra. Ret 4th? how does Ret place that high, maybe a few spots lower. I could be wrong but couldn't Titan and ToD be higher? Ps. I'm not saying that I am some kind of expert, these are just my opinions. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On April 11 2012 03:25 Shelke14 wrote: Man, do people have crazy opinions. Not placing Idra in the top 10? Where would you place him among the other players? Who outside the top 10 is going to beat Idra in a best of 5? Who is going to give the good koreans (MMA, MKP, MC, Bomber) a run for their money in box series that is below Idra? I understand he isn't placing very high in recent events but look who he has been playing against and look at other foreigners, hes doing just fine and he is only going to get better. Now, aside from Idra. Ret 4th? how does Ret place that high, maybe a few spots lower. I could be wrong but couldn't Titan and ToD be higher? Ps. I'm not saying that I am some kind of expert, these are just my opinions. hm ye i kind of agree with titan. ret is 4th because there is a gap between the 3rd and 4th, and i dont know wheather thorzain ret kas or sase belong 4th. none of them has consistantly good results | ||
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Blennd
United States266 Posts
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Troxle
United States486 Posts
On April 11 2012 03:52 Blennd wrote: Kiwikaki not even in the next 20? And TLO is not even close to being 30th, he shouldn't even get a mention in the next 20 imo. KiWi has had 0 results recently. This last has a lot of opinion in it and I hope the author would put the criteria he used. LucifroN way too high, with how some of these people made the list, Scarlett should be top 20 easily and she isn't even listed in top 50. Would drop IdrA out of top 10 though for sure. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
comparing scarlett to lucifron??? you must be kidding... lucifron wins everything when he gets active again. plays 1 tournament, wins against morrow, bratok (who won thorzain in the same MU at this tournament), grubby. scarlett won terious and demuslim, thats true. but compare the games plz^^ | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On April 11 2012 03:25 Shelke14 wrote: Man, do people have crazy opinions. Not placing Idra in the top 10? Where would you place him among the other players? Who outside the top 10 is going to beat Idra in a best of 5? Who is going to give the good koreans (MMA, MKP, MC, Bomber) a run for their money in box series that is below Idra? I understand he isn't placing very high in recent events but look who he has been playing against and look at other foreigners, hes doing just fine and he is only going to get better. Now, aside from Idra. Ret 4th? how does Ret place that high, maybe a few spots lower. I could be wrong but couldn't Titan and ToD be higher? Ps. I'm not saying that I am some kind of expert, these are just my opinions. It's been months since idra could compete with the likes of MMA. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On April 11 2012 05:55 Dexington wrote: LOL Idra number 8? With his massive 30% win rate this year? Idra isn't going to Foreigner only tournments like the gathering and stuff to raise his win rate. He is constantly in tournaments where he is in groups of only koreans so his win chance isn't as high as people who go to smaller Euro turny's with lesser koreans. You can't just say " LOL 30% WINRATE LOL SO BAD" look at who he played compared to who Mana, Morrow, Ret, Grubby, darkforce, Select, and or Nerchio. I think when you actually look into who he is playing then you will understand why he is rated higher than others. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
Maybe Happy a bit lower again, why did he suddenly jump up four spots? Even though he placed 4th at Copenhagen Games, his path there was pretty easy and he lost as soon as he hit top players and hasn't done a lot apart from that as well. Is he so much better than, for example, Beastyqt at the moment, who didn't even make the top 30? I also might have put Titan a bit higher, but overall it is a pretty good list. Much better than what the "Scariest Starcraft 2 player" thread in SC2 General seems to go like at the moment. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 11 2012 06:00 Shelke14 wrote: You can't just say " LOL 30% WINRATE LOL SO BAD" look at who he played compared to who Mana, Morrow, Ret, Grubby, darkforce, Select, and or Nerchio. I think when you actually look into who he is playing then you will understand why he is rated higher than others. You're right. However ELO ranks do account for the skill of opponents, and idrA has fallen to #117 in TLPD's international rankings. Safe to say he has fallen dramatically in recent months. If you were to base this on just the last 6 months, not only does idrA not belong in the top 10, I would argue he doesn't even belong on this list at all. I'm an idrA fan too, but you can't deny reality. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On April 11 2012 06:00 Shelke14 wrote: Idra isn't going to Foreigner only tournments like the gathering and stuff to raise his win rate. He is constantly in tournaments where he is in groups of only koreans so his win chance isn't as high as people who go to smaller Euro turny's with lesser koreans. You can't just say " LOL 30% WINRATE LOL SO BAD" look at who he played compared to who Mana, Morrow, Ret, Grubby, darkforce, Select, and or Nerchio. I think when you actually look into who he is playing then you will understand why he is rated higher than others. I have looked. It's not like he's only lost to Koreans this year. He's lost series to Cloud, Darkforce, Kas, Feast and Real (let's be honest, he doesn't really count as a Korean). He's also lost best of one series to Thorzain, Sheth and Sase. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On April 11 2012 07:22 Dexington wrote: I have looked. It's not like he's only lost to Koreans this year. He's lost series to Cloud, Darkforce, Kas, Feast and Real (let's be honest, he doesn't really count as a Korean). He's also lost best of one series to Thorzain, Sheth and Sase. so did every other foreigner below him. Furthermore, WATCH his play. he can play rly, rly well if hes in the mood^^ but ye, if he keeps on losing, he will obviously lose ranks in the next list, just as he did this month. Thank you all very much for your comments, the next list will approx. be released in the beinning of may | ||
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Barburas
United Kingdom247 Posts
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
On April 12 2012 05:42 Barburas wrote: I'd put Illusion much higher, I honestly feel like he could be the top foreigner Terran in the next few years. He's already displayed some of that skill at IPL4. He did well at IPL4, but one tournament is not enough to prove yourself. He beat two good Koreans, that's about it. No other notable achievements. And this is a current ranking, not a list of players who may do well in the future. He's not even close imho. | ||
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