EPTI think that Axlav, Major or Haypro should take Cloud out of the top 30... that's just my thought tho.
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ComebackKid
Canada105 Posts
I think that Axlav, Major or Haypro should take Cloud out of the top 30... that's just my thought tho. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
2) about illusion and snute - id put them on 31 and 32. Illusion is solid, but i dont see him winning a bo7 against the players in the top 30 offline yet. Snute won a big tournament, yes - but he also dropped out of others quite early. 3) About Socke. Yes, he did very well at MLG. But also, he lost 3-1 to cloud in the german eps - he obviously was jet-lagged a little bit, but hes quite inconsistant in general. watch the MLG groupstages as well! he can be a great top 10 player, but he can also get raped but non-top30s regularly i feel. still, he won some ranks. 4) About ClouD: see above. Wins 3-1 vs socke just to lose vs "Krrr" at the gathering (or copenhagen games?) 2 weeks later. Quite inconsistent. MaJoR in the top 30? maybe, but he doesnt have any results tbh. This is just my resoning behind some placements, it dosnt mean im right and youre wrong - just clarification  its pretty hard to write those lists, but its fun for me!^^ | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
Just my thoughts from skimming the list. | ||
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
Because if: 1) Idra is 4-9 which is roughly 30%. Even if he took those maps (not a whole set) vs Koreans, it's still not #8 worthy. and if: 2) He's 19-46 which is under 30%. This doesn't need an explanation. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
watch idras games. hes still quite good and a bit "overhated" currently | ||
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UndoneJin
United States438 Posts
Other than that, awesome list, this is actually pretty accurate as to who the top 30 foreigners would be. | ||
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huehuehuehue
Estonia455 Posts
On April 11 2012 00:26 KalWarkov wrote: 1) Lucifron fucking raped the gathering. SjoW lost in the early stages. SjoW in general seems quite overrated by most, watch his latest results carefully. White-Ra (who plays vs top players obviously) doesnt win anything lately, he simply has huge popularity and gets invited to everything, basically winning nothing lately. 2) about illusion and snute - id put them on 31 and 32. Illusion is solid, but i dont see him winning a bo7 against the players in the top 30 offline yet. Snute won a big tournament, yes - but he also dropped out of others quite early. 3) About Socke. Yes, he did very well at MLG. But also, he lost 3-1 to cloud in the german eps - he obviously was jet-lagged a little bit, but hes quite inconsistant in general. watch the MLG groupstages as well! he can be a great top 10 player, but he can also get raped but non-top30s regularly i feel. still, he won some ranks. 4) About ClouD: see above. Wins 3-1 vs socke just to lose vs "Krrr" at the gathering (or copenhagen games?) 2 weeks later. Quite inconsistent. MaJoR in the top 30? maybe, but he doesnt have any results tbh. This is just my resoning behind some placements, it dosnt mean im right and youre wrong - just clarification its pretty hard to write those lists, but its fun for me!^^ Illusion beat like 3 Koreans at IPL tho.. I definetly think he could win some BO7's against the top 30 guys. | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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Bunn
Estonia934 Posts
Demuslim is also overrated imo, no real meaningful results. I also feel that bling should be a bit higher, or I'm overrating him, not sure. It's kinda sad to look at that list and then compare them with Koreans. Only the top ~8 foreigners can even hope to compete with Koreans, and even then it's difficult. | ||
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PandaTank
South Africa255 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13984 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 11 2012 00:34 Hypemeup wrote: Putting HuK over NaniWa is questionable. IdrA does not belong in the top 10 I would say(or even in the top 30 if it was not for his big tournament experience, his results are piss-poor this year). I would put ToD alot higher just thanks to his TvP. Just my thoughts from skimming the list. Naniwa performed amazingly at MLG Providence, but otherwise he hasn't been performing terribly well IMO. At MLG winter championship I believe HuK beat him and nocked him out of the Championship bracket. The thing is, HuK has been more or less consistant. He's always one of the highest placing foreigners at each tournament and has even had limited success in the GSL. For me, consistant winning is a better indicator of a higher calibre player than one big tournament win. Honestly, I would put HuK at #1 on this list above Stephano, who I should point out has not won two MLGs.... | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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Zuor
Finland377 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On April 11 2012 01:44 TheToast wrote: Idra in the top ten? I don't agree with that. Idra has been in a tail spin for the last 6 months, I don't think he's won a single tournament and has been getting eliminated quite early in a lot of the major tournaments lately. Listing him as the #3 foreign zerg is a bit crazy. Right now that position belongs to Sheth. While he lost early to Kawaii Rice at the last MLG, up to that point he's been doing amazingly. He was TL's Korean killer in the IPL team League, and definetly deserves to be higher than Ret. Naniwa performed amazingly at MLG Providence, but otherwise he hasn't been performing terribly well IMO. At MLG winter championship I believe HuK beat him and nocked him out of the Championship bracket. The thing is, HuK has been more or less consistant. He's always one of the highest placing foreigners at each tournament and has even had limited success in the GSL. For me, consistant winning is a better indicator of a higher calibre player than one big tournament win. Honestly, I would put HuK at #1 on this list above Stephano, who I should point out has not won two MLGs.... put stephano in the MLG pool play 6 times in a row. see what happens  | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 11 2012 02:27 KalWarkov wrote: put stephano in the MLG pool play 6 times in a row. see what happens Well now that MLG is seeding people through the Spring Arenas (which stephano isn't getting seeded because of his poor placement and Winther Champs.) we may not find out....  | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On April 11 2012 02:41 TheToast wrote: Well now that MLG is seeding people through the Spring Arenas (which stephano isn't getting seeded because of his poor placement and Winther Champs.) we may not find out.... i mean last year, not this year. he didnt play the qualifier for MLG, thats why he wasnt seeded^^ Major is in the 2nd list, he might be top 30, but he doesnt post any results tbh | ||
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
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