EPTAs you can see Cena's lip was busted open, and it's reported that he lost a tooth.
What say you guys, real or fake?
Brock Lesnar vs John Cena, real or fake?
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
As you can see Cena's lip was busted open, and it's reported that he lost a tooth. What say you guys, real or fake? | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
Edit: I feel like after a certain point, piling on more people to try to pull two guys apart starts losing effectiveness >_> | ||
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Rayeth
United States883 Posts
If Lesnar actually wanted to hurt him, I doubt this is what would happen. Enjoy it as entertainment, but none of it is real. | ||
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
Feel kinda bad for Cena. first he had to get his ass kicked by the Rock's return, and now Brock? I can't see him coming out with a win when the WWE is just gonna want to milk the return of these guys. Who's next? Steve Austin? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44319 Posts
I'm gonna say fake, just because they're pros. | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
They even admit during breaks that its just entertainment. i mean really? Hit a guy in the head with a sledgehammer and a few seconds later he's up and fighting back? Really? How? Don't care how strong you are. Just no. I watched a program a few years back showing exactly how everything gets done, including blood which the do with razor blades. So never believe anything you see on there to be real unless they make a mistake and someone really gets hurt. Most of the guys that hate each other on stage, are really good friends behind the scenes. I always thought of it as something like a soap opera in a stadium. Everything is rehearsed, it takes ages to get to the point and its repetitive. The only way to keep it fresh is to go further and further into the realm of the impossible. | ||
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Clemz
United States70 Posts
So, real or fake? In terms of controversy, definitely fake. That certainly was a real shot Cena took, and almost certainly it was real blood. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On April 10 2012 15:12 eu.exodus wrote: WWE is completely and utterly fake in every way. It blows my mind how people even think its remotely real. They even admit during breaks that its just entertainment. i mean really? Hit a guy in the head with a sledgehammer and a few seconds later he's up and fighting back? Really? How? Don't care how strong you are. Just no. I watched a program a few years back showing exactly how everything gets done, including blood which the do with razor blades. So never believe anything you see on there to be real unless they make a mistake and someone really gets hurt. Most of the guys that hate each other on stage, are really good friends behind the scenes. I always thought of it as something like a soap opera in a stadium. Everything is rehearsed, it takes ages to get to the point and its repetitive. The only way to keep it fresh is to go further and further into the realm of the impossible. That's not completely true. Those steel chair shots are definitely real, and so are the tables and some other stunts. They obviously do it in the safest manner possible, but you're just as oblivious as an 11 year old fan thinking it's real to think that everything is not real. They take a lot of serious injuries as well, more than a lot of sports. I'm guessing the bleeding lip was definitely real. If they wanted to fake some blood it'd have been done on the forehead like you said. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
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mtn
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On April 10 2012 15:22 RPR_Tempest wrote: Well obviously the busted lip is real, I doubt it was intentional though. I don't think there is any real life animosity between the two. Same thing i thought. I think lesnar wanted to hit the canvas but he not intentionaly hit Cena's face. I think that cuz the next punches with his right hand land on the mat, and not even close to Cena's face rofl | ||
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Grend
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 If you actually want to hurt someone you hurt them instead of missing with your punches. And that blood is easily fakeable too. Noone could see anything due to all the people for the longest time, easy to spray some fake blood into his mouth at some point. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
Biceps to shoulder, gotta hurt. The slap is probably what hurt the most in that whole thing lol | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On April 10 2012 15:30 mtn wrote: Same thing i thought. I think lesnar wanted to hit the canvas but he not intentionaly hit Cena's face. I think that cuz the next punches with his right hand land on the mat, and not even close to Cena's face rofl this is most probably it. After that first blow, Lesnar took a glance at his target (canvas) and all of those 'jabs' missed cena, hitting his actual target. lol at that Cena Smile XD | ||
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cynical
Canada589 Posts
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Nabes
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On April 10 2012 16:44 OrangeSoda wrote: Can someone explain to me why people above the age of 12 still watch this? I don't see how this is entertaining at all, I remember watching this when i was young but man i was just a kid, I thought it was real. I mean no disrespect to the OP or anyone else, I am just wondering. I don't watch it anymore either, but I watch plenty of things that aren't real. | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On April 10 2012 15:18 Itsmedudeman wrote: That's not completely true. Those steel chair shots are definitely real, and so are the tables and some other stunts. They obviously do it in the safest manner possible, but you're just as oblivious as an 11 year old fan thinking it's real to think that everything is not real. They take a lot of serious injuries as well, more than a lot of sports. I'm guessing the bleeding lip was definitely real. If they wanted to fake some blood it'd have been done on the forehead like you said. lol i would love to see someone get hit with a real steel chair and be able to stand 30 seconds later | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On April 10 2012 16:44 OrangeSoda wrote: Can someone explain to me why people above the age of 12 still watch this? I don't see how this is entertaining at all, I remember watching this when i was young but man i was just a kid, I thought it was real. I mean no disrespect to the OP or anyone else, I am just wondering. I've only ever seen wrestling once, it was a local event in san franciso and it was great fun. It was straight up theater, like going to the improv show of a group in your city - nobody goes into one of those expecting people to be playing out their real life dramas on stage, same with the wrestling. Exactly like a play or an opera but with fighting conveying the conflict and humor instead of dialogue or singing. | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
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Terminal
United Kingdom2109 Posts
Did Cena really get smacked in the mouth? I guess. And was the blood real? Yeah probably. The pulling apart and the rest is just scripted and part of an angle. Stuff like this has always happened in pro wrestling, it doesn't mean the guys legit hate each other but there have definitely been cases well documented where they do. | ||
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MethodSC
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Kxaegyu
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On April 10 2012 17:45 Terminal wrote: It depends what people mean by real or fake.. it's definitely scripted yeah, like a movie.. with stuntmen.. who can get hurt from time to time. I'm pretty sure Lesnar didn't intentionally mean to split his mouth open, but he just got done with MMA right? And he's been away from pro wrestling for what, like 8 years? I'm sure he's not the softest of workers when he's trying to make things look as real as possible. Did Cena really get smacked in the mouth? I guess. And was the blood real? Yeah probably. The pulling apart and the rest is just scripted and part of an angle. Stuff like this has always happened in pro wrestling, it doesn't mean the guys legit hate each other but there have definitely been cases well documented where they do. This! Only thing i want to add is that I really think the blood looks fake also, the color and the way its stained around the teeths doesnt look naturall. And you can see when brock getts on top at the start, had it been "real" he would easily have hitt the face/head, but he does some bad acting(lol) and hits around everywhere  PS: I am entertained by wrestling, even tho I know its all acting =) | ||
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MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
Seriously, it buckles my mind, that their's actually still people in this world, who can ever think that wrestling is ever real. I mean all the so called "injuries" are 90% just something they made up to make it more dramatic, and they're just acting like they're injured, when they're not. It's all just a show, and nothing else. And I can't really believe that I actually had to explain this in this day and age, seriously it's wwe, it's fake - Why the hell would you ever think that it's real, because Brock used to be an ufc fighter, or what? Nooffense you're pretty stupid for believing that this is real | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
On April 10 2012 20:21 MadNeSs wrote: It's wwe, so ofc it's fake, are you retarded or something? If you have ever watched wrestling before, you would know that they cut themselves with hidden razors to produce blood, and make it seem more real. So obv it's fake, wrestling is ALWAYS fake, wrestling has always been fake and it always will. It is purely for entertainment purposes, it always will, and they dont even try to hide the fact that it's fake. Seriously, it buckles my mind, that their's actually still people in this world, who can ever think that wrestling is ever real. I mean all the so called "injuries" are 90% just something they made up to make it more dramatic, and they're just acting like they're injured, when they're not. It's all just a show, and nothing else. And I can't really believe that I actually had to explain this in this day and age, seriously it's wwe, it's fake - Why the hell would you ever think that it's real, because Brock used to be an ufc fighter, or what? Nooffense you're pretty stupid for believing that this is real There are plenty of things in wrestling that aren't fake. This video is just one example, Cena's lip was split open for real. It's minor, but it's something. If people don't watch wrestling they shouldn't be posting in this thread because they just make themselves look stupid. I mean... On April 10 2012 17:52 MethodSC wrote: It has the WWE tag, therefore it is 100% fake no exceptions. Comments like this make me lose brain cells. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
However, this time i think he might of got "hit" or "knocked" and he might of just knocked a toothh out or cut his lip. I mean they are physically rolling around and was about 20 big men grabbing him all over. To lose a tooth or to cut a lip only takes a little elbow/hand/fist to hit you and you can make a cut. It isn't much blood though and normally when you cut that sort of area its quite a bit that comes out. I go with my gut feeling in that whilst they were rolling on the floor and being broken up that Cena took a fist/hand/elbow to his mouth and cut him. Nothing major though | ||
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Symmetry
Canada294 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Mat Not all the injuries are fake. Mick Foley really did get hit in the head with a chair over and over again. And he almost died for it. You make unsubstantiated claims about something you know nothing about, and act condescending to boot. Please never talk about anything again until you've done your research. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
On April 10 2012 21:35 Symmetry wrote: Y'all need to watch an old documentery called "Beyond the Mat". It's on Netflix I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Mat Not all the injuries are fake. Mick Foley really did get hit in the head with a chair over and over again. And he almost died for it. You make unsubstantiated claims about something you know nothing about, and act condescending to boot. Please never talk about anything again until you've done your research. Thank you so much. | ||
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Draft
United States26 Posts
They both are celebrities that earn money being icons. They cant be giving each other broken shoulders or spinal issues every other match. It would lose the franchise money. | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
On April 10 2012 21:35 Symmetry wrote: Y'all need to watch an old documentery called "Beyond the Mat". It's on Netflix I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Mat Not all the injuries are fake. Mick Foley really did get hit in the head with a chair over and over again. And he almost died for it. You make unsubstantiated claims about something you know nothing about, and act condescending to boot. Please never talk about anything again until you've done your research. Haven't watched the documentary myself, but Mick Foley's book(s) on wresting is definitely a great read. As another poster mentioned, yeah the stuff is scripted and they attempt to do the stunts in the safest manner possible. But injuries do happen, and there's a lot more damage done in the stunts than the people yelling "fake" realize. | ||
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FraCuS
United States1072 Posts
WWE = FAKE | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
You have to take things with a pinch of salt though Temptest. I mean only a few silly people are saying everything is fake WWE is fake 100% none of the "physical" attributes to wrestling are real etcetcetc. But you have to add into the argument that yes this whole show is a scripted based stunt show? Thats all it is, but yes stunts do go wrong and yes stunts do physically take it out of people. Like in any stuntmans career you are going to get the standard injuries they do get, the leg injuries and back problems there just going to happen. But that documentary was about 3 "fucked" up people in jake the snake mick folley and the old guy. The old guy couldn't afford to give up wrestling so he drives on and continues to make money (kind of like the wrestler film) as there wasn't thousands of $$s in wrestling back then than there is now. Folley was a nut job, a plain mental nut job who loved the attention he got from the WWE and really liked his job and just loved the dangerous stunts. No way was he near death from those chair shots, no way would the rock physically smack his head "properly" with a chair 10000s of times knowing it could kill him if he doesn't stop. They are the best of friends outside of the WWE always have been. Folley was the most dangerous wrestler stunt wise and thus got injured the most. The hell in the cell fall is impossible to scrip in the sense of where he would fall etcetcetc but what is scripted is the fact that he wouldn't get hurt 100% and there is pading on the floor throughout the wrestling ring area. Same when they put a wrestler through the "announcer" desk its always the same spanish announcers desk and it always breaks pre the move. But i still think the general, it was all scripted as usual, but a stray punch or even just an elbow or hand from when they were being broken apart is the reason Cena had a cut on his lip | ||
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Nallen
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Zorkmid
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On April 10 2012 15:22 RPR_Tempest wrote: Well obviously the busted lip is real, I doubt it was intentional though. I don't think there is any real life animosity between the two. I don't understand how anyone could not have animosity towards Brock Lesnar. Colossal douchebag. | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
If it was some kind of assault, the entire wrestling lockerroom wouldn't be on standby waiting to run in and save the day. They'd have security guards coming in or something, and the announcers would be speechless, rather than drawing play by play for it. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13926 Posts
I mean they try their best to fake everything so they can do it night in night out like they do but some of that stuff they can't fake and they get hurt. Most of the blood is cut open with a razor but with the more "hardcore" matches they really do get cut open. | ||
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pred470r
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On April 10 2012 16:44 OrangeSoda wrote: Can someone explain to me why people above the age of 12 still watch this? I don't see how this is entertaining at all, I remember watching this when i was young but man i was just a kid, I thought it was real. I mean no disrespect to the OP or anyone else, I am just wondering. I havent watched it in about 6 years, but I heard the rock was fighting cena at wrestlemania, so I tuned in for that. Then I maily watch highlights when brock appears | ||
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BioNova
United States598 Posts
Undertaker vs Mankind hell in cell...ah memories. You can script it alllll you want. It still looked like it hurt like hell. | ||
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drgoats
United States310 Posts
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headjadedtron
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MrKGB
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On April 10 2012 16:44 OrangeSoda wrote: Can someone explain to me why people above the age of 12 still watch this? I don't see how this is entertaining at all, I remember watching this when i was young but man i was just a kid, I thought it was real. I mean no disrespect to the OP or anyone else, I am just wondering. The same reason we're adults posting on a video game website. In the end, it's entertainment. I watch it (the storylines crack me up, and a good worker can really work a crowd), it's scripted television where you get a gladitorial element to it. In the end, it's scripted, not fake, but taking steps to protect each other. If it wasn't fake, someone would be dead every episode, or it would be extremely boring. Now, the Lesnar vs. Cena bloodying, I think it was an unintentional bonus for them. He was bleeding out of the mouth, normally if they wanted blood intentionally (and WWE shys away from that now), he would have cut his forehead. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Lesnar cut open Cena's head with his elbow Sunday night. Cena returned the favor with his bike chain to Lesnar's skull. Both bleeding by the end of the match. Definitely real blood. As to why people watch it? It's just a fun soap opera for the guys (and gals, and kids...). There are (shaky at best) storylines and you can have fun predicting the twists and turns of the matches and hang out with your buddies. You can root for the good guys, the bad guys, pick your favorite wrestler or whatever you want to do. There's a community behind it, it's the most-watched show on Monday-night TV at least as far as ratings are concerned so a lot of eyes are on it. It's not so different from watching other kinds of fictional shows like 24 or Lost. Would you disparage people for watching football or baseball? (I do, to my friends at least, for a bit of fun ) | ||
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leox33
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