• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:43
CEST 16:43
KST 23:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over0New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!36Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Browser Invoker Combo Trainer & Speedrun Simulator Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7038 users

NA sc2 server = the most BM? - Page 2

Blogs > AegiS_
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 02 2012 14:19 GMT
#21
I get about the same amount on NA as EU. Although NA has more native english speakers and their bm is often more...specific. Detailed.
And what I've seen of the TL chat channel on NA it's just kids trolling kids who are saying 'LOL YOU'RE NOT EVEN TROLLING'. It's weird.
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
April 02 2012 14:19 GMT
#22
When I lived in China, the people on the Chinese server weren't bm at all. Not that I speak chinese or anything (yet), but they'd never even... say anything. Just standard gl/hf, gg at the end, not much at all in between, ever, except for one person who was curious as to me being American. At the same time, I got cheesed there almost every game, and I had to adapt to that rather quickly.

So the NA server is funny to me, because here is where everyone complains the most about cheese and all-ins, but it's also the place where the least amount of cheese and all-ins happen. If I did half the stuff now that I saw on the Chinese server, I'd be trolled off the planet for it!

Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
April 02 2012 14:36 GMT
#23
I don't encounter much BM on the EU server (diamond level). Every now and then you get someone bitching about Terran if I win, but the most common "BM" is when they try to downplay my "achievement" of beating them by giving some reason why they lost just before leaving "i'm so tired", "i made so many mistakes" or "i normally play protoss" (interestingly the guys profile page showed Zerg has his most played race) and stuff like that. But that's about it.

I have noticed a rise in number of people who try to pull off some standard cheese or all-in (think marine/SCV or 4-gate) and when it fails, they pause and type "has left the game!" in chat before unpausing hoping that it tricks me into thinking they've actually left. I just reply that i'm not buying it and proceed to kill their stuff. One guy actually left for real when I said he didn't fool me, which was mildly satisfying.
Such flammable little insects!
justalex
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
April 02 2012 14:55 GMT
#24
The lack of GG or GLHF on NA is more of a cultural thing. While it's considered manner to say that, it's not really BM to say nothing during a game.
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
April 02 2012 15:00 GMT
#25
No way. I get the most BM on EU by far.
Wishing you well.
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1004 Posts
April 02 2012 15:01 GMT
#26
out of over 15 games today on NA I think I got one gg from my opponents. It was a nice change that only 1-2 actually whined about balance/me being shit for once. I remember a long time ago low masters being the worst where every single game without fail some angry nerd would rage every single game.

I always wondered if in America nerds are treated as badly in high school as on tv? If you actually got wedgies and shit at school I can imagine why you'd feel the need to take your hate out on the internet...

Tbh though I think its just a cycle where people started being dicks and then others were dicks to get back at them and it just goes round and round. Ah wells, tools will be tools.
Progamerwww.twitch.tv/x5_pig | pigrandom88@gmail.com | @x5_PiG | www.facebook.com/pigSC2
Pixel.
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands287 Posts
April 02 2012 15:02 GMT
#27
Eu server is so bad. Think these days 75% is bming at the end of the game, even if they are winning :/
Member of KnightS* www.Ks-gaming.com Pixel.323
Dujek
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom276 Posts
April 02 2012 15:02 GMT
#28
On April 02 2012 22:49 huehuehuehue wrote:
Dunno, I play on EU server, start every game with gl hf and end every one with gg, I get like 1 in 5 games some bm, and usually its when they lost so it isn't a problem. BM for me is only annoying if they say something like get out or offensive gg..


Same here, on EU serve in Platinum. I start every game with "gl hf" and end every game with "gg wp" and I only get BM maybe once in every 20 games. And even then I just ignore it completely and they stop.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
April 02 2012 15:35 GMT
#29
My personal experience is that the american servers are worse when it comes to playing the game but way better at BMing you.

Then again has not the american starcraft scene always been BM central? I seem to recall watching Psystarcraft cast Yankee League or whatever it was called with Artosis bming the hell out of someone someone calling them "piece of newbie shit" and such?
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 02 2012 15:37 GMT
#30
On April 03 2012 00:00 Kyhol wrote:
No way. I get the most BM on EU by far.

Same. Especially european protosses..
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
April 02 2012 15:50 GMT
#31
Eu player here and i get bmed like 80% of won games.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
April 02 2012 16:01 GMT
#32
Wouldn't know about EU but NA is significantly more BM then SEA or KR servers in my experience.

KR is hardly BM it's really fucken funny when they do, mostly because they have pathetic english (haha, son of bitch terran. Terran no mother!). Even had a guy BM me, hit me later that day and apologise for BMing. Wha?
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Fake)Plants
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States373 Posts
April 02 2012 16:03 GMT
#33
I have a Terran account in masters on NA, and that definitely has more BM than my recently created plat Protoss account. I think people are more content with their position in plat, and by that I mean either they don't play that much, or they are intent on learning so they blame their own play, or like me, they are also off-racing.

But I have also heard stories of BM in the lower leagues, and that rage could come from lack of understanding of the game. Although, even though I'm in masters and my opponents are too, I still feel like we don't understand the game well sometimes haha.
Q( ' '(Q
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
April 02 2012 16:29 GMT
#34
Well since US-East was the #1 home of BM and maphacking in BW I would assume that the NA server is the worst in sc2 aswell.
However I only play on EU and dont get BM:ed that much,10% of the games perhaps.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 02 2012 17:03 GMT
#35
On April 02 2012 23:07 Makra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 20:10 AegiS_ wrote:
I don't even care about stuff like glhf/ gg, but seriously every other person on NA has some 1-2 liner to say at the end of the game about my skill (when in reality I have better APM/mechanics than said players who claim to be "better" me in their insults).

Back to KR server :D


Argghh! People still think APM = skill??

I play on both NA and SEA, and for a while there NA was extremely full of BM, but it seems to have backed off now. It really bugs me though when people BM you after a match and they have their PM settings restricted to friends only. It makes me want to switch my PM settings like that, but at the same time I don't want to be antisocial because there are some good people out there that you meet randomly.


I like how he has APM/mechanics right there and you call him out for believing APM=skill. Mechanics are definitely a critical component of skill. APM in and of itself, while much less of a predictor of skill than mechanics, is still relevant because higher APM tends to correlate with better multitasking which is obviously a part of one's mechanics.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
April 02 2012 17:17 GMT
#36
On April 02 2012 22:30 Megatronn wrote:
A lot of people on the EU server whisper me after games and say they hope my family dies.. kinda messed up lol.

LOL, I receive similar types of comments on the EU server. Yesterday, someone whispered to me and said that I should jump into a fire... with my WHOLE FAMILY LOL.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Makra
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia50 Posts
April 02 2012 17:32 GMT
#37
On April 03 2012 02:03 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 23:07 Makra wrote:
On April 02 2012 20:10 AegiS_ wrote:
I don't even care about stuff like glhf/ gg, but seriously every other person on NA has some 1-2 liner to say at the end of the game about my skill (when in reality I have better APM/mechanics than said players who claim to be "better" me in their insults).

Back to KR server :D


Argghh! People still think APM = skill??

I play on both NA and SEA, and for a while there NA was extremely full of BM, but it seems to have backed off now. It really bugs me though when people BM you after a match and they have their PM settings restricted to friends only. It makes me want to switch my PM settings like that, but at the same time I don't want to be antisocial because there are some good people out there that you meet randomly.


I like how he has APM/mechanics right there and you call him out for believing APM=skill. Mechanics are definitely a critical component of skill. APM in and of itself, while much less of a predictor of skill than mechanics, is still relevant because higher APM tends to correlate with better multitasking which is obviously a part of one's mechanics.


I'm not questioning the role of mechanics in one's skill level at all. But it is quite evident from what he said that he believes APM plays a significant role in skill.

Sure, APM may tend to correlate with better multitasking, but a tendency isn't enough to make it relevant.
GlintFox
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States275 Posts
April 02 2012 17:38 GMT
#38
I don't personally think its the server specific which has more, but look at what most gamers in general do these days. They play on things such as xbox live which is nothing but BM and to feel socially accepted they BM as well in other games along with on the social servers. Its a socialogical thing and shows they are emotionally invested which is not only stupid but a weakness, in my opinon.
"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful… the strong… the weak… the innocent… the corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally." -Darth Maul
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
April 02 2012 18:26 GMT
#39
So, NA gamers are sore losers? Or is it that they actually have personalities which are less reminiscent of door-mats?
twitch.tv/duttroach
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
April 02 2012 18:44 GMT
#40
im not sure your one to decide if you had better apm/mechanics unless you know your drastically better T.T
i only bm people that bm me :O
*rawr* d(^_^d)
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 543
Lowko469
Trap 59
SHIN 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6965
Shuttle 1162
GuemChi 493
Mini 424
Horang2 419
Zeus 107
Pusan 96
Sea.KH 81
Killer 78
ToSsGirL 64
[ Show more ]
Hyun 62
Noble 43
Aegong 43
Hm[arnc] 26
Bale 24
Free 18
Shine 13
soO 11
yabsab 11
Dota 2
Gorgc3335
Dendi1195
syndereN362
BananaSlamJamma280
Counter-Strike
fl0m4459
olofmeister1249
edward11
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor67
Other Games
singsing1785
hiko793
B2W.Neo546
crisheroes404
Liquid`RaSZi353
Liquid`VortiX217
XaKoH 184
mouzStarbuck174
Sick157
OGKoka 123
ArmadaUGS69
QueenE36
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 9
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV373
League of Legends
• Nemesis2340
• TFBlade804
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 17m
GSL
20h 17m
OSC
22h 17m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 9h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.