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Unbanned and finally something I like more than SC

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IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 31 2012 03:23 GMT
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So 12/12/11 11:43, I had the honor of being banned from TL by Liquid'Jinro. If you want to know why, here is the thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=293808#1


A wonderful song in Georgian.
So I wanted to leave SC for a while so I could try building my life around something other than SC, and in all it was a good experience. I think everyone should try something new for a couple a months, just to experiment. In my case, I found something I loved. Languages.
I have always been somewhat interested in languages, having learned Spanish through middle school and German through the first portion of high school. However, I never really was too dedicated to learning languages. During the last couple of months, I spent virtually all my available time studying foreign languages probably doing about 500 hours since I was banned. I didn't really study to learn to speak the languages, more just to understand how they worked. I studied off and on Georgian, Written Arabic, Finnish, Russian, Irish, Icelandic, Mandarin, Farsi, Swedish, Norwegian, French, Japanese, Korean and Lakota. I didn't really get anywhere far in any of the languages, but I feel like I understand the elements of human languages a whole lot better and just generally increased my global understanding. The process of language learning is something I really love and I feel like it will probably replace SC as the center point of my free time. Or maybe it won't. But now I know I can enjoy other things besides SC, which makes me feel more grounded and balanced.
No one needed to read that as it didn't really say anything important but thanks if you did

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leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
March 31 2012 03:30 GMT
#2
you haven't accomplished anything. you didn't learn any language.

sorry for being a downer
banelings
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
March 31 2012 03:38 GMT
#3
Good on you, keep at it.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 31 2012 03:39 GMT
#4
Well it's good you've found something you are passionate about, as fun as SC is your life really shouldn't revolve around it solely. However becoming fluent in another language, even one close to english is extremely difficult. I took 2 years of spanish in high school, and four semester in college (a requirement) and honestly I probably have the vocabulary of an 8 year old native speaker.

You literally need to spend long hours drilling (the non sexual kind) and practicing if you want to get anywhere. But doing so can really open your eyes and mind to other cultures, and can really give you a lot of satisfaction. Es difficil pero puede ser muy gratificante.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
March 31 2012 03:39 GMT
#5
Don't be a Cultural studies major, be a linguist. Given that you aren't delving deeply into any particular language it seems like you're interested in the basic structure of the languages themselves.
GuMiho <3
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
March 31 2012 03:42 GMT
#6
On March 31 2012 12:30 leo23 wrote:
you haven't accomplished anything. you didn't learn any language.

sorry for being a downer


If you look closely, he never claimed to have done so.
ohsea.toc
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia344 Posts
March 31 2012 03:42 GMT
#7
I share your enthusiasm OP. I studied Japanese during school and then Arabic at University. He who has two languages has two souls. Or something.
Clip, clop, Camelot.
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
March 31 2012 03:51 GMT
#8
On March 31 2012 12:30 leo23 wrote:
you haven't accomplished anything. you didn't learn any language.

sorry for being a downer


He found something else to enjoy and direct focus. He accomplished everything he set out to do.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
March 31 2012 03:59 GMT
#9
你会读华文或讲话语吗?
Can you read or speak the languages that you've researched on at a basic level? Anyway, I think its great to learn something out of passion and interest, not because of academics.
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
March 31 2012 04:02 GMT
#10
On March 31 2012 12:42 zJayy962 wrote:
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On March 31 2012 12:30 leo23 wrote:
you haven't accomplished anything. you didn't learn any language.

sorry for being a downer


If you look closely, he never claimed to have done so.

To be fair, he did say he gained an understanding on the process of learning a language. It's pretty hard to say you have a grasp on it when the only process was looking up stuff about a language and then giving up.
Wasteweiser
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada522 Posts
March 31 2012 04:32 GMT
#11
I'm sure the swarm missed you, intelligence work will serve you well to conquer those pesky terrans.
Obitus.243
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
March 31 2012 04:33 GMT
#12
I have been studying Mandarin for a few months now, living in China, it has really gotten me interested in languages. It is super fucking hard learning characters and tones, but it is such a drastically different approach to language that it has really opened up my mind to looking at things from a different point of view.

On that note, "long time no see," is a phrase that is directly translated from Mandarin, and now anytime I hear it, I laugh.
http://twitter.com/howsc
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
March 31 2012 04:34 GMT
#13
On March 31 2012 12:42 ohsea.toc wrote:
I share your enthusiasm OP. I studied Japanese during school and then Arabic at University. He who has two languages has two souls. Or something.


Or maybe you just know how to say nothing in two languages.

:p
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 31 2012 04:56 GMT
#14
Its good you founds something you love Also i'm glad that you are no longer temp banned, though you are before my time haha.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Tleaf
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada181 Posts
March 31 2012 04:56 GMT
#15
Snakke du norsk?

Did you enjoy learning norwegian? I find it pretty tough to be honest I thought english was hard to learn but norwegian is really tough for me, the asian languages come alot easier because well I'm chinese and I've been around them my whole life.

Did you learn all those langauges at once? or sequentially?
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 05:49:16
March 31 2012 05:43 GMT
#16
I feel like we have something common. I would also pick up new languages but never really get too far with either of them. If you want to get somewhere, you have to change this. It's not that your passions aren't real it's just that you get easily distracted or discouraged. If you can push past that point you can use your passion and you wil be rewarded. Once you get to a certain level in the language you start enjoying it way more than in the beginning. You won't be afraid you won't learn new things, instead you will be eager to do so. Every single minute spent will be worth it.

Maybe that's the case or I might be totally wrong here. Either way good for you to rediscover your passion and hopefully you can make something useful out of it! Good luck.

Edit: I just clicked your link and I remember that blog :D But most importantly I remember it was this blog which lead me to Philip Glass. Thank you a million times. I've had much fun discovering minimalism in music ever since!
En Taro Violet
ohsea.toc
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia344 Posts
March 31 2012 05:45 GMT
#17
On March 31 2012 13:34 Jerubaal wrote:
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On March 31 2012 12:42 ohsea.toc wrote:
I share your enthusiasm OP. I studied Japanese during school and then Arabic at University. He who has two languages has two souls. Or something.


Or maybe you just know how to say nothing in two languages.

:p


Thankfully my superoir English make up for these.
Clip, clop, Camelot.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 31 2012 06:13 GMT
#18
I read your post, but I just want to comment, that your username seems particularly appropriate for the title of your blog. Nice coincidence, haha.
you gotta dance
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
March 31 2012 07:00 GMT
#19
I think you saw immediately that Le French is a superior language :p

Seriously now, I feel the same about learning new language : you also learn how to think differently because the ideas and wway to express are different.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
DeadCell
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada256 Posts
March 31 2012 07:32 GMT
#20
I started learning Cantonese three weeks ago, with my new gf.

Really helps with her being from Hong Kong; I wanted to learn even before because where I work about 75% of the employees speak both English and Cantonese. Seems like I'm always missing out on a good joke when I hear them speak it and laugh afterwards.

Anyway, good luck to you!
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