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spacemonkey4eve
United States267 Posts
So normally I don't buy lottery tickets, but come on, who doesn't want to take a 1 in 180 million chance to get into the record books and become the winner of the world's largest lottery jackpot? Reportedly to be $350 million AFTER taxes. Although I know it's nearly impossible to win, it's good fun and is sure as hell a lot cheaper than going to the tables at a casino. Anyone here bought tickets for it? I bought 5 tickets  | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
glglgl | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
But you're not going to win. | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
Everett Eahmer, 80, of St. Paul, Minn., said he's been playing the lottery "since the beginning." "If I win, the first thing I'm going to do is buy a (Tim) Tebow football shirt, and I'm going to do the Tebow pose," said Eahmer, who bought five tickets Thursday. "I'm with him in honoring a higher power." I like Tebow, I share his views, but this quote had me cracking up hahaha | ||
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spacemonkey4eve
United States267 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:06 mordek wrote: I like Tebow, I share his views, but this quote had me cracking up hahaha personally i'll be faith hilling cause tebowing is soooo 2011 (south park reference) | ||
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tw!tch
United States563 Posts
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:13 tw!tch wrote: ahhh my whole office bought tickets today! a few guys and myself didn't chip in though. is it wrong to be nervous? No, it's a perfectly normal human response and also don't worry, the odds are in your favor. Mike Catalano, chairman of the mathematics department at Dakota Wesleyan University in Mitchell, S.D., concedes the math is clear: The more tickets you buy, the better chances you have of winning. Better long-shot chances, of course. They definitely needed a mathematician for this. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:06 NeoIllusions wrote: I'll probably buy 10 tickets later today. glglgl My magic is woven. Victory you will have. I demand 1% of your winnings or $1 million, whichever is lower. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
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spacemonkey4eve
United States267 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:17 mizU wrote: When do they release the numbers? 11pm EST tonight. edit: there was a news article stating that yes, you can buy all 180 million combinations and be guaranteed to win and make like $100 million profit, but it's physically impossible to print all those tickets in time (it would take weeks), there's not enough lotto paper for it, and it would take years to go through each one. | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:18 TheToast wrote: Hmm the odds are 1 in 178 million, payout is 640 million even if it were split between several winners.... hey, does anyone have $178 million dollars I could borrow? I'll pay you back tomorrow. If you buy 178 million tickets, that doesn't mean you will have a 100 percent chance of winning, right? | ||
micronesia
United States24692 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:21 Recognizable wrote: If you buy 178 million tickets, that doesn't mean you will have a 100 percent chance of winning, right? Right. People in my office bought some tickets so I put in a dollar. I don't do it because I am a lotto player... just to be included with everyone else lol. If I win I will donate one million dollars to teamliquid. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
I'd put like 100 million into TL and eSports yo | ||
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micronesia
United States24692 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:28 mizU wrote: Only a million? So greedy. I'd put like 100 million into TL and eSports yo I won't be getting the full jackpot. We will split it up among the ~10 of us who are in. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
 first time doing lotto! | ||
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Kojak21
Canada1104 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:29 micronesia wrote: I won't be getting the full jackpot. We will split it up among the ~10 of us who are in. you'd still get like 35 million... | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
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micronesia
United States24692 Posts
Okay. If you win you have to donate 3% of your winnings to teamliquid no questions asked. | ||
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ziggurat
Canada847 Posts
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:37 ziggurat wrote: Can you buy these if you live in Canada? Yep. And on top of that, "Prizes are subject to a federal withholding tax of 30 per cent, which out-of-country players can apply to have rebated. Most states also tack on their own taxes, up to 30 per cent, according to the Star." Source | ||
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
The way I see it, if you do nothing, you have a 0% chance of winning. You can't win, ever. However, the difference between 0% chance and 1 in 180 million is actually quite big. 0% is zero fucking percent. Can't happen. At all. But 1 in 180 million... well shit, going from 0% to some fraction of a percent for 1 dollar, that seems worth it. Of course, it ends there. While buying two tickets doubles your odds, the change in probabilities is so small it isn't worth it. Only going from 0% to 1 in 180 million (or whatever the odds happen to be) is actually worth it. Generally, though, I always felt like the lottery was a scam. I've only bought like 5 tickets in my entire life, but the few times I did I had some "fun" with it, so I don't regret it. Maybe I'll buy a single ticket. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:50 HardlyNever wrote: When I got out of college, I had a really mind-numbing job. And when you have a mind-numbing job, you start to think about things that will change that, and how you can obtain that change. I came up with this (admittedly shallow) idea that to actually NOT play the lottery is dumb. However, buying more than 1 ticket is also dumb. The way I see it, if you do nothing, you have a 0% chance of winning. You can't win, ever. However, the difference between 0% chance and 1 in 180 million is actually quite big. 0% is zero fucking percent. Can't happen. At all. But 1 in 180 million... well shit, going from 0% to some fraction of a percent for 1 dollar, that seems worth it. Of course, it ends there. While buying two tickets doubles your odds, the change in probabilities is so small it isn't worth it. Only going from 0% to 1 in 180 million (or whatever the odds happen to be) is actually worth it. Generally, though, I always felt like the lottery was a scam. I've only bought like 5 tickets in my entire life, but the few times I did I had some "fun" with it, so I don't regret it. Maybe I'll buy a single ticket. i believe once the jackpot reaches a certain amount of money, it actually becomes a "good" gamble to pay the $1 for a chance at it | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:50 HardlyNever wrote: When I got out of college, I had a really mind-numbing job. And when you have a mind-numbing job, you start to think about things that will change that, and how you can obtain that change. I came up with this (admittedly shallow) idea that to actually NOT play the lottery is dumb. However, buying more than 1 ticket is also dumb. The way I see it, if you do nothing, you have a 0% chance of winning. You can't win, ever. However, the difference between 0% chance and 1 in 180 million is actually quite big. 0% is zero fucking percent. Can't happen. At all. But 1 in 180 million... well shit, going from 0% to some fraction of a percent for 1 dollar, that seems worth it. Of course, it ends there. While buying two tickets doubles your odds, the change in probabilities is so small it isn't worth it. Only going from 0% to 1 in 180 million (or whatever the odds happen to be) is actually worth it. Generally, though, I always felt like the lottery was a scam. I've only bought like 5 tickets in my entire life, but the few times I did I had some "fun" with it, so I don't regret it. Maybe I'll buy a single ticket. If the ticket provides you with more enjoyment than the price, and there's nothing else that would give you more enjoyment for that price, that seems like a good purchase to me. I just wouldn't think of the probability because you won't win and that'll lessen your enjoyment. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:21 Recognizable wrote: If you buy 178 million tickets, that doesn't mean you will have a 100 percent chance of winning, right? ummm idk. According to Wikipedia the current rules state that you pick five numbers from between 1 and 56 and then you pick one number from 1 to 46. The first five numbers are all drawn from the same machine (that is one machine with just one set of the numbers 1-56 inside) so repeats are not possible. So the total number of possible results would be the total number of ways to choose 5 out of 56 multiplied by 46. So to figure that, we would use the formula for combination (which ignores order and won't count repeats) which is: n! ────── k!(n-k)! Where n is the total number of options and k is the number being chosen. So 56!/5!(56-5)! =56!/5!51! =55005350400 Then multiply by 46 to account for the mega ball number 55005350400(46) =253024611840 Is that right? There are 253,024,611,840 different combinations? | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:42 Durak wrote: I hate lotteries based on utilitarianism: they take money from many poor, stupid people and give it to one person. At least it's taxed. Alot of the revenue from ticket sales goes to state programs though. Here in Gerogia, the state lotterys here helps fund college scholarships. Yes, one person eventually gets a fuckload of money but I'm sure the money pulled in from all the ticket sales is worth it, before taxes even set in. | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
On March 31 2012 06:25 TheToast wrote: ummm idk. According to Wikipedia the current rules state that you pick five numbers from between 1 and 56 and then you pick one number from 1 to 46. The first five numbers are all drawn from the same machine (that is one machine with just one set of the numbers 1-56 inside) so repeats are not possible. So the total number of possible results would be the total number of ways to choose 5 out of 56 multiplied by 46. So to figure that, we would use the formula for combination (which ignores order and won't count repeats) which is: n! ────── k!(n-k)! Where n is the total number of options and k is the number being chosen. So 56!/5!(56-5)! =56!/5!51! =55005350400 Then multiply by 46 to account for the mega ball number 55005350400(46) =253024611840 Is that right? There are 253,024,611,840 different combinations? I think your calculations are off. (56!) / (5! * 51!) = 3 819 816 | ||
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Seth_
Belgium184 Posts
On March 31 2012 06:25 TheToast wrote: =56!/5!51! =55005350400 How did you calculate that? It's 3,819,816 times 46 leads to 175.7 million However I'm wondering if there are multiple winners, do they split the money? If they don't, you could buy every combination for 176 million and win 350 million guaranteed (+ all of the 5 number prizes...) | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
Its worth it for everyone to buy three tickets according to math, obviously doesnt work this way though | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
I DONT KNOW! O-o I'm at work so the only calculator handy is the useless windows one. | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
On March 31 2012 06:52 TheToast wrote: I DONT KNOW! O-o I'm at work so the only calculator handy is the useless windows one. google and wolfram alpha are better than any calculator | ||
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JimSocks
United States968 Posts
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
The environment is being destroyed because of this | ||
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PrimeTimey
Canada369 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:13 tw!tch wrote: ahhh my whole office bought tickets today! a few guys and myself didn't chip in though. is it wrong to be nervous? Just don't be the idiot that tries to sue them after they win. | ||
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Pooshlmer
United States1001 Posts
http://www.circlemud.org/~jelson/megamillions/ | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:24 PrimeTimey wrote: Just don't be the idiot that tries to sue them after they win. And why wouldn't you chip in...its only a few dollars and is statistically favored. Also the fact that everyone chips in means that there is a higher chance of winning... | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:42 Durak wrote: I hate lotteries based on utilitarianism: they take money from many poor, stupid people and give it to one person. At least it's taxed. I see your point, but the self-interested free rider in me loves that I'm exempt from paying for the services lotteries support. In a sense, state-run lotteries and casinos are the perfect method of taxation since they're completely voluntary. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44391 Posts
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English
United States475 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math Pretty sure people know they're not likely gonna win, they just don't care. It's fun to dream. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44391 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:42 English wrote: Pretty sure people know they're not likely gonna win, they just don't care. It's fun to dream. Absolutely. And there goes your money  | ||
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bebe01
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Zidane
United States1686 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On March 31 2012 06:39 Seth_ wrote: How did you calculate that? It's 3,819,816 times 46 leads to 175.7 million However I'm wondering if there are multiple winners, do they split the money? If they don't, you could buy every combination for 176 million and win 350 million guaranteed (+ all of the 5 number prizes...) if there are multiple winners, the prize is split i believe | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:17 ReketSomething wrote: I think he forgot the parens and did the multiplication step afterwards, but w/e The environment is being destroyed because of this Hey, I got a 3 on the AP stats test..... 5 years ago. On March 31 2012 07:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math Some people do it just for fun though, and hey if you can get $1 worth of fun out of it then in a way it's providing a service. | ||
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tw!tch
United States563 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:33 ReketSomething wrote: And why wouldn't you chip in...its only a few dollars and is statistically favored. Also the fact that everyone chips in means that there is a higher chance of winning... You know, I probably would have but I had no cash on me at the time >< | ||
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hYdrA-MeNo
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hYdrA-MeNo
Mexico344 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:21 Recognizable wrote: If you buy 178 million tickets, that doesn't mean you will have a 100 percent chance of winning, right? no those are the odds of winning but i think there over 20,000,000,000 combinations i mean 1/56 u get one right so then 56*55*54*53*52 then times 46 for the mega thats over 20,000,000,000 diffrent combos so no you would be at like 10% what they mean by the odds is if you were to play it long term thats your chance of winning over a period of time my guess would be around 60 years of playing your odds are 1-176 million | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:48 bebe01 wrote: bought $10 quick pick, if i hit it everyone in this thread gets 10Gs So kind of you :D I'm going to buy one today but dont' expect to win obviously. A man can dream though. | ||
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tw!tch
United States563 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:48 bebe01 wrote: bought $10 quick pick, if i hit it everyone in this thread gets 10Gs I'll hold you to that! | ||
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Jaw
United States274 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:48 bebe01 wrote: bought $10 quick pick, if i hit it everyone in this thread gets 10Gs 1 in 175mil odd to get 10g for free count me in... | ||
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hYdrA-MeNo
Mexico344 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:48 bebe01 wrote: bought $10 quick pick, if i hit it everyone in this thread gets 10Gs Deal i bought 40 dollars worth if i win ill give everyone here 20g | ||
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tw!tch
United States563 Posts
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11582 Posts
gonna buy some now If I win, i'll be sponsoring OSL and proleague. | ||
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Phelix
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On March 31 2012 08:07 hYdrA-MeNo wrote: no those are the odds of winning but i think there over 20,000,000,000 combinations i mean 1/56 u get one right so then 56*55*54*53*52 then times 46 for the mega thats over 20,000,000,000 diffrent combos so no you would be at like 10% what they mean by the odds is if you were to play it long term thats your chance of winning over a period of time my guess would be around 60 years of playing your odds are 1-176 million You'd also neglect at how much time you would have to spend to fill in the bubbles, as well as the amount of paper/ink that has to be used for printing the ticket itself. On another note, I'm using my random number generator drawing from a container to pick numbers for me...I don't think that was a great idea. | ||
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FreezingAssassin
United States455 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:48 bebe01 wrote: bought $10 quick pick, if i hit it everyone in this thread gets 10Gs |No turning back now! | ||
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StarStruck
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On March 31 2012 05:10 spacemonkey4eve wrote: personally i'll be faith hilling cause tebowing is soooo 2011 (south park reference) After reading the article I knew a South Park reference was bound to happen. Only took 4 posts. Good times. 640 million is ridiculous. On March 31 2012 08:19 CaucasianAsian wrote: :O! gonna buy some now If I win, i'll be sponsoring OSL and proleague. Not a bad idea. I will do that too and buy my own team. Bringing back the Fingerboom. | ||
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DuB phool
United States1003 Posts
Oh yeah, I'd totally donate a bunch to TL too. I'd finally have a way to give back! Someone win and make the TSL4 prizepool insane! :D | ||
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Thienan567
United States670 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:48 bebe01 wrote: bought $10 quick pick, if i hit it everyone in this thread gets 10Gs Word, I'll hold you to that.  I didn't buy a ticket, but my parents did. There was a huge line at the store for the lottery ticket machine earlier. Sucks that probably none of them will win it...lol | ||
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hYdrA-MeNo
Mexico344 Posts
On March 31 2012 08:58 Thienan567 wrote: Word, I'll hold you to that. I didn't buy a ticket, but my parents did. There was a huge line at the store for the lottery ticket machine earlier. Sucks that probably none of them will win it...lol Someone has to win at somepoint | ||
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Megaliskuu
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FlaShFTW
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Kenpachi
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hYdrA-MeNo
Mexico344 Posts
On March 31 2012 09:04 FlaShFTW wrote: if only i was old enough and i won... id donate at least 50 mil to TL, then save the rest. i dont know about that i would give tl something just not 50 million lol | ||
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1Eris1
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dAPhREAk
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VATO_Gandair
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ItsYoungLee
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dama
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The payoff odds are 426mill:1. So you get positive EV for up to 2 plays. But then again I'm not taking into account the possiblity of multiple winners so EV is maybe less... | ||
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darmousseh
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HeroHenry
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
On March 31 2012 06:35 Enki wrote: My parents bought 5 tickets and my sisters work are pulling their tickets together. Was in town earlier and the gas stations were swamped with people. @_@ Alot of the revenue from ticket sales goes to state programs though. Here in Gerogia, the state lotterys here helps fund college scholarships. Yes, one person eventually gets a fuckload of money but I'm sure the money pulled in from all the ticket sales is worth it, before taxes even set in. This is another reason why I didn't feel bad about buying lotto tickets when I lived in Georgia. The HOPE scholarship (the scholarship drawn from the lotto) paid for basically all my undergrad education. I didn't mind giving a few bucks back. | ||
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shinosai
United States1577 Posts
On March 31 2012 11:33 HardlyNever wrote: This is another reason why I didn't feel bad about buying lotto tickets when I lived in Georgia. The HOPE scholarship (the scholarship drawn from the lotto) paid for basically all my undergrad education. I didn't mind giving a few bucks back. Yea. It's too bad the Hope scholarship is going away. They keep running out of money, and since they can't require the lotto to give more money (I'm not entirely sure why - they originally donated 29% of their profits, now it's something like 19%) they keep slashing funding. Won't last much longer since tuition and new students continue to rise. But yea, I'm thankful for all the people in the world that don't understand probability. The uneducated funded my education. :O Not that there aren't a few swell guys out there like you buying a ticket to give back. | ||
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Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
All he would need to do in order to get that 1 mil is to switch to SC2 hehehehe | ||
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endy
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Or even better, an MSL ! | ||
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dAPhREAk
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
2 4 23 38 46 P23 | ||
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dAPhREAk
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14% of $3 edit: and it only cost me $10 | ||
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Darkchylde
United States473 Posts
On March 31 2012 12:07 0123456789 wrote: Boo 4/6, no mega Damn, 4/6 is still really rare. I got 3 x 1/6 | ||
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blabber
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RCMDVA
United States708 Posts
I heard on the radio from some lottery official, that over 90% of the possible number were picked. So there is only a very slight chance it will roll over. But if it does...we are looking at over $900 million pushing $1 billon top end number... $500 million so after lump-sum + taxes. http://www.megamillions.com/numbers/drawDetails.asp?drawDate=3/30/2012 And I had crappy numbers, only 1 match on my tickets. | ||
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dAPhREAk
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IMHope
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hYdrA-MeNo
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qstah
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On March 31 2012 14:49 qstah wrote: i heard there's no jackpot winner...new Jackpot could be over a billion bux... There's at least one in Maryland. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/31/us/mega-millions/?hpt=hp_t1 | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:14 SeungHwan wrote: bought 3 tickets and got zero numbers correct T.T haha I bought 1 and no numbers correct as expected lol. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Wonder if it's anyone I know. | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On March 31 2012 09:13 Kenpachi wrote: my SAT prep school teacher buys these every week. if he wins, he buys the entire class chinese food or sandwiches This is so sad. I wonder how many people that buy lottery tickets regularly look back after 10 or so years and calculate all the money they have wasted. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
If nobody won (but someone in maryland did) and the prize pool was up to over 1 billion, then technically if you buy at least ~20-25% of the tickets you bought for this drawing, for the NEXT, then you are still making positive EV lol (assuming that you are the sole winner of the jackpot, if you win) | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On March 31 2012 16:13 Recognizable wrote: This is so sad. I wonder how many people that buy lottery tickets regularly look back after 10 or so years and calculate all the money they have wasted. Probably not, which is why they keep playing. I'd also wager most of these same people fall into your standard Gambler's fallacy. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On March 31 2012 16:13 Recognizable wrote: This is so sad. I wonder how many people that buy lottery tickets regularly look back after 10 or so years and calculate all the money they have wasted. He buys his class food if he wins. He obviously does it for fun. It's a stupid use of money, but not sad if it makes the guy happy. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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spacemonkey4eve
United States267 Posts
3 confirmed winners: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/31/us-lottery-megamillions-idUSBRE82U00W20120331?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=71 | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
On March 31 2012 07:48 bebe01 wrote: bought $10 quick pick, if i hit it everyone in this thread gets 10Gs the lottery wasn't a low enough chance, a particularly dangerous man such as myself is more suited to this challenge. | ||
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PolskaGora
United States547 Posts
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Disregard
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Still, $10,000 after taxes, $250 per employee, props to them. | ||
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lwwkicker
United States140 Posts
On April 01 2012 11:19 Disregard wrote: Better chances of getting hit by a car or strike by lightning! You are more likely to get struck by lightning. Multiple times. In a row. You are also about 8,000 times more likely to get murdered than win. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On March 31 2012 16:13 Recognizable wrote: This is so sad. I wonder how many people that buy lottery tickets regularly look back after 10 or so years and calculate all the money they have wasted. yeah but he wont be around in 10 years T_T | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 03 2012 06:27 Itsmedudeman wrote: If I win, I'll use all the money to buy more lottery tickets. Investing is the way to go. to bad someone already won | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/04/02/singleton-lottery.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2 | ||
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