I've been following the scene since that time when Bisu 3-0'd Savior in a fashion that even it's news was heard to players who didn't even knew a gaming scene of this scale ever existed. Since then, I became a rabid T1 fan posting shit on GG.net and lurking on TL.net until I was banned from the former and stayed here.
Now, with the advent of Stupidity, I think it's about time to leave this place. Maybe after PL Finals, I'll be removing the TL tab that I always click every time I open a browser.
It's been fun, TL. My first account here got banned, then after a week or so, created another account and I really thought I would get discovered. Following BW through this site taught me that there's only a few dedicated forums on the internet that has a dedicated community, willing to pour time into it. I may never find another forum like this.
BW Hwaiting.!
And It's practically confirmed at this point. It's been fun, really. I really can't show my disappointment when some people here demean BW when in fact, if it wasn't for BW and it's scene, there wouldn't be TL, there wouldn't be 'E-Sport', and there wouldn't be anything that made us all come here.
To E-Sports fans:
If a titan like BW can fall like this, what do you think the chances of 'E-Sports' in maintaining foot-hold as a spectator sport?
even if i stopped following E-Sports id probably keep coming to this site for the non-e-sports stuff (at the very least the funny pics thread) this is just too amazing of a community that isnt all E-Sports for me to ever give it up
On March 27 2012 08:00 Forikorder wrote: even if i stopped following E-Sports id probably keep coming to this site for the non-e-sports stuff (at the very least the funny pics thread) this is just too amazing of a community that isnt all E-Sports for me to ever give it up
I agree. I barely follow e-sports closely anymore with school and everything, but I still come here for ADT and KMD. The occasional glance into the Flash meme page always cracks me up too.
I think the BW/SC2 hybrid season will still contain a good handful of great BW matches, worth checking out via vods. And there is still a BW OSL to ogle over.
On March 27 2012 08:08 eviltomahawk wrote: I think the BW/SC2 hybrid season will still contain a good handful of great BW matches, worth checking out via vods. And there is still a BW OSL to ogle over.
If PL is going to be SC2/BW, I think the OSL will be also in this format.
dont you have favorite players? why would you not continue with them no matter what their choice (sc2, lol, dota, whatever)? i follow players, not games, and i still refer back to sc:bw when some of my favorites are playing although i watch sc2 almost exclusively.
I feel bad that the only ID you could come up with was "Shaftofpleasure". As a consolation, I'll let you know where to find the BroodWar section on Teamliquid.
On March 27 2012 08:10 dAPhREAk wrote: dont you have favorite players? why would you not continue with them no matter what their choice (sc2, lol, dota, whatever)? i follow players, not games, and i still refer back to sc:bw when some of my favorites are playing although i watch sc2 almost exclusively.
FBH, Fantasy, Bisu, Calm, Canata, Turn, Iris, Perfectman, Hyuk to name the few. I really don't have any specific favorite anymore. I watch the games not because of the player but for the games they deliver. I always root for the underdog.
On March 27 2012 08:13 ninazerg wrote: I feel bad that the only ID you could come up with was "Shaftofpleasure". As a consolation, I'll let you know where to find the BroodWar section on Teamliquid.
Even if, in your opinion, SC2 is fundamentally bad you should at least wait to see how your favorite players can shape/change the game before leaving entirely. I'd even suggest seeing how things differ when the expansion is out and running ...
On March 27 2012 08:08 eviltomahawk wrote: I think the BW/SC2 hybrid season will still contain a good handful of great BW matches, worth checking out via vods. And there is still a BW OSL to ogle over.
If PL is going to be SC2/BW, I think the OSL will be also in this format.
Really now? Perhaps in a future OSL, but I doubt this coming OSL will be in this format. The prelims are only in a few days and will most likely be in pure BW, so it would be even less logical to make OSL into a hybrid format. And considering that the OSL schedule will involve dual tourney in April and group stages in May and bracket stages most likely being held in the following summer months, there is still a decent amount of BW to be had for this half of the year even if Proleague turns hybrid after April.
So stay a bit longer. We'll see what happens with OSL after this coming season, but for now it's still a good old BW tournament.
I gotta say this to you: BW is only dead when it's community gives up and leaves. Even if Proleague dies, the people that are passionate about it are the actual core of the game. As long as you love the game, it will continue to exist. Maybe it sounds cliché, but it's the truth.
On March 27 2012 08:18 setzer wrote: Even if, in your opinion, SC2 is fundamentally bad you should at least wait to see how your favorite players can shape/change the game before leaving entirely. I'd even suggest seeing how things differ when the expansion is out and running ...
I've tried playing SC2, watched it scene, and before that, I was one of this hyped-up schmuck but in the end, still couldn't get myself to like it. Couple that with what Blizzard has done, I found myself hating blizzard and all it represent. BW, to me, is more than just a game. I can't explain it very well but it has a good place inside me maybe because way before 2007 and following the BW scene, BW was the first tournament I've played in LAN. Since it was released, I've been playing it until I entered into college back in 2005, since 1999/2000 I've been playing BW with friends and haven't got a single clue about the Pro Scene. You can say I loved the game very much and here comes Blizzard crashing down on it. It makes me sad, really.
On March 27 2012 08:08 eviltomahawk wrote: I think the BW/SC2 hybrid season will still contain a good handful of great BW matches, worth checking out via vods. And there is still a BW OSL to ogle over.
If PL is going to be SC2/BW, I think the OSL will be also in this format.
Really now? Perhaps in a future OSL, but I doubt this coming OSL will be in this format. The prelims are only in a few days and will most likely be in pure BW, so it would be even less logical to make OSL into a hybrid format. And considering that the OSL schedule will involve dual tourney in April and group stages in May and bracket stages most likely being held in the following summer months, there is still a decent amount of BW to be had for this half of the year even if Proleague turns hybrid after April.
So stay a bit longer. We'll see what happens with OSL after this coming season, but for now it's still a good old BW tournament.
Now that I think about it. You might be right.
On March 27 2012 08:26 RageCommodore wrote: I gotta say this to you: BW is only dead when it's community gives up and leaves. Even if Proleague dies, the people that are passionate about it are the actual core of the game. As long as you love the game, it will continue to exist. Maybe it sounds cliché, but it's the truth.
When you were spoiled by the level of play these progamers give. It's the only way to satisfy you. but I have been playing since 2000 so you can count on me to love the game just not the scene.
In the hearts of those of us who love(d?) it, BW will never die. Like those amazing days of childhood, the time you spent enjoying BW and the matches of those who played it will stay with you. If you choose to leave here, don't hang your head. If you've gained any joy from your time here, treasure that, and don't worry if the inevitable has proven inescapable.
You say you were here for Bisu v Savior? Then may you never believe in the impossible. For those of us who were here longer, we may always keep other moments with us. From the OSL finals between iloveoov and Boxer we can always be reminded that the joy of defeat may at times be sweeter than the agony of victory. To those who watched Savior's trek through seasons of ridiculous map pools they may take the lesson that a champion doesn't spend his time bemoaning an abyssmal road to climb, he simply climbs. Those privy to Anytime's OSL victory can walk away knowing things don't always turn out as planned (no matter how honorable the subject of that plan is). And those who have watched Flash can comfort themselves with the knowledge that even perfection may not always be perfect.
On the one hand, I understand you wanting to leave if there's no more BW for you to watch, but on the other hand this is one of the few places where you'll find people who understand the importance of BW to those who love it. Your choice.
OIMG MAN YOU GOT NOSTALGIA GLASSES DOOD BW AINT EVEN TAHT SPESHUL U GOTTA LEARN TO ACCEPT SC2 AND ESPORTS!!11111!!!!!!1!!
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When BW dies out, I guess I'll be here mostly for the funny pictures thread and blogs, along with seeing what BW players do after their careers are over. At this point, after all the anger and confusion in me has died out, for me there is now only acceptance and peace, with a tear in my eye and thanks in my heart to BW for all its given me.
I'm undecided on what i'm going to do yet. Just waiting to see how how this all pans out. If it is true that we'll have proleague with alternating games at the very least there will be less ignorance about BW on TL...
Yeah I feel the same way. I'll watch the PL finals and the upcoming OSL but after that I'll probably just dip. I've been visiting TL less and less anyway recently. It has changed and not for the better imo. Or maybe I'm the one who changed
On March 27 2012 09:24 ShadeR wrote: I'm undecided on what i'm going to do yet. Just waiting to see how how this all pans out. If it is true that we'll have proleague with alternating games at the very least there will be less ignorance about SC2 on TL...
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HOLY SHIT GUYS. A GAME THAT'S 10 YEARS OLD IS FINALLY BEING REPLACED BY A GAME THAT'S IT'S SEQUEL!
But seriously, I want to thank all the BW fans (especially you, OP) for creating a foundation for Starcraft 2 to stand on. I know my quote and reply make me sound like an asshole, but I'm being serious. Without BW fans, we would have to start from scratch and that would be messy.
On March 27 2012 08:13 ninazerg wrote: I feel bad that the only ID you could come up with was "Shaftofpleasure". As a consolation, I'll let you know where to find the BroodWar section on Teamliquid.
May I reply on this? I've always been intrigued by your ID. It seems like a name that you just thought of half hazardly when you had to register, and then you realize you're gonna be stuck with it.
Anyway, yes, what they are doing to BW is horrible. Dafuq with that PL format!!!
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