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Hey guys,
I'm close to tears right now, disguted, horrified and itching all over.
I've just moved into a new flat, went to the kitchen a couple of minutes ago and a large insect, about the length and width of the last joint of my thumb lay on the ground on his back being very noisy.
At first I thought he was just an overlarge bumblebee, but as I sprayed it it hissed like crazy and started flailing his arms.
Now he's curled up into a tight ball, so I can't even make out what I'm dealing with here,
but I'm mortally afraid that my flat is infested with some sort of insect.
The kitchen window was closed over night, so he can't just have flown in.
Please advice me what do to, since I can't reach anyone to talk to at this time of the day and I can hardly type for shivering so insanely.
Thanks!
€: I think I'm unable to cope with more than one of these things, I've never seen a bug this large and I feel extremely invaded right now. If they breed someplace in my flat, I'll have to move out, but I can't afford moving again...
Here's the best picture I could get:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/bug2da.jpg/
€: The bug is dead, this is not about how to kill it, or how to sweep it's corpse away.
 
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Do you have a picture of it? It's kind of hard to say what it is based on that description, but it sounds like maybe a cicada. I'm not very familiar with the type of insects that live in Germany though  . It sounds like you killed it pretty well so I wouldn't worry too much. Maybe a neighbor would know what it is since they have lived there longer.
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It's not a cicada, it's perfectly black and not nearly as slender.
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What an odd post. Just try to establish whether it is a beetle of some sort, because what you described sounds like a beetle and beetles don't infest anything and are perfectly harmless. They have a hard shell protecting their wings and look like a Crypt Lord from wc3 in general. Also, find an image of a cockroach and compare it to the beast, because at that size, the only thing you need to fear is a roach - and yes if it's a roach you are royally screwed.
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Have you read Kafka's The Metamorphosis? Clearly this was the last inhabitant of your flat in insect form, who crawled out of hiding over night to ask for help. You've just murdered him. You'd better move out before you suffer the same fate.
EDIT: Wait. Just noticed your name. Is this a troll?
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On March 23 2012 21:07 netherh wrote:
Have you read Kafka's The Metamorphosis? Clearly this was the last inhabitant of your flat in insect form, who crawled out of hiding over night to ask for help. You've just murdered him. You'd better move out before you suffer the same fate.
EDIT: Wait. Just noticed your name. Is this a troll?
Haha holy shit you blew my mind just there.
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On March 23 2012 21:07 netherh wrote:
Have you read Kafka's The Metamorphosis? Clearly this was the last inhabitant of your flat in insect form, who crawled out of hiding over night to ask for help. You've just murdered him. You'd better move out before you suffer the same fate.
EDIT: Wait. Just noticed your name. Is this a troll?
This isn't a troll, and neither is it funny.
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Large insect and now in some sort of ball-form? I would research siege mode and siege tanks before you move out, maybe baneling bust.
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Well, bugs can get into places in other ways than through the window, so until you find a nest or hear odd sounds in your walls, you aren't quite at infestation yet.
And it's probably not dangerous, drink a couple of beers, gather your courage and throw it out. Don't know what other advice you expect from here? And pictures before throwing it out if you can 
On March 23 2012 21:23 Wortie wrote:
Large insect and now in some sort of ball-form? I would research siege mode and siege tanks before you move out, maybe baneling bust.
Awesome 
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well google is convinced it's one of these:
![[image loading]](http://insected.arizona.edu/graphics/isoinfo.gif)
![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Slater_rolled_up_for_wiki.jpg/220px-Slater_rolled_up_for_wiki.jpg)
fits or wrong? doesn't really match the size you are describing though Oo
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Take a glass and throw that bug outside. Then check if there is food left in corners. if there's none, then it should be a random bug.
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On March 23 2012 21:30 MisterD wrote:well google is convinced it's one of these: fits or wrong? doesn't really match the size you are describing though Oo
That doesn't quite fit, it definitely has wings (no, not like a speedling, I appreciate the joke, though).
Also, it's not that elongated, and in its dead form, you can still make out the legs.
I'll try to get a picture, but I don't quite dare to get that near..
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Picture added, it's pretty bad, though.
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Just grab it with toilet paper and throw it away from home. Only if you see another bug you should be worried.
Seeing alone bug or animal does not mean infestation. And even when infestation actually happens, you take a picture of the species, go into an anti-bug shop or agency, get it identified, buy the proper anti-bug stuff and soon it's over. In the worst, most expensive case, you might need to actually pay some professionals to come and do it for you, but that's very rare.
Don't be afraid of the thing, have some humility, it's a living thing that's most likely harmless to you. Try to battle your own knee-jerk reaction, because it is in fact mostly irrational. Bugs are generally only a trouble, because they walk in dirty places and might bring some disease along (very very rare case) and just because they could populate a lot somewhere and become annoying. 90% of the horror that we all have of bugs is just irrational (I have great fear and disgust too, but I battle it).
On March 23 2012 21:56 kafkaesque wrote:
Picture added, it's pretty bad, though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumble_bee
? maybe? or a color-less clone of it? -- there are in fact many varieties, some don't sting only look similar
i have no idea though, just it reminded me of this
bumble bees make ridiculously loud bass noises with their wings and that could be more intimidating than anything else
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if you don't like toilet paper because it looks large enough to bite through into your finger, take a glass and a piece of paper, put glas upside down onto the thing, slide in paper below, then lift up closed and flip out of the window. Afterwards you can (should) clean the glass as much as you are paranoid, then you should be fine
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Okay the chances that it is dangerous are close to 0 because you live in Germany, which has (from what I gathered) no venomous insects. If it is a spider, most spiders are not lethal, and I don't think there are many in Germany that are. From what you described, it is definitely an insect/beetle.
Conclusion: man up, go to the kitchen, grab a jar or glass or bowl. Come up to the bug and place it upside down over the bug. Slide a piece of paper under the bowl. Open a window or door leading outside. Then slide your hand under the paper. Then flip it over, and carry the bug to the window or door and set it free.
Seriously, it's just a harmless insect... What would your ancestors say about you?
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It's not about getting rid of that singular, dead bug, nor is it about being afraid of venom...
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On March 23 2012 22:07 kafkaesque wrote:
It's not about getting rid of that singular, dead bug, nor is it about being afraid of venom...
You've only seen one, right? Why assume there are more than 1? It is so large that you should have no problem spotting them.
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EDIT- Nvm I missread the OP.
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Judging by the pic it's obviously Rammus with the chrome skin.
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On March 23 2012 22:09 NukeD wrote:
Your post got me so angry... FFS its just a bug, its affraid of you thtas why it clumped up, throw it out of your house and please dont kill it. Have some respect for other living creatures.
Some people have phobias for bugs, u cant really blame him if he's scared. Phobias arent logical u cant be like oh its so muc smaller has no vemon therefore i can do what ever i want to it and not be afraid.
Seems like he has a phobia which is completely normal and just asking from Teamliquid for some help.
I would suggest if its dead, to maybe get a broom or some sort and try and sweep it out the door, or maybe u could ask a neigbour to help u?
But if its alive, and from what u've said it has wings, and touching it might make it take off, which will probaby freak the crap out of u, so i dont recomend that bit, if its alive...hmm...anymore info on what it looks like a bit more, i'm curious to know what type of bug it is
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You need to man up and throw the bug away. You're a few hundred times the size of it. It might be an infestation, but you don't know that. Until you do, just friggin pick up the corpse and throw it out.
...then go wrestle a bear or something. You know, MAN stuff.
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On March 23 2012 22:15 Kickboxer wrote:
Judging by the pic it's obviously Rammus with the chrome skin.
Had no idea what a Rammus was so i google it............LOL
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On March 23 2012 22:16 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 22:09 NukeD wrote:
Your post got me so angry... FFS its just a bug, its affraid of you thtas why it clumped up, throw it out of your house and please dont kill it. Have some respect for other living creatures. Some people have phobias for bugs, u cant really blame him if he's scared. Phobias cant logical u cant be like oh its so muc smaller has no vemon therefore i can do what ever i want to it and not be afraid. Seems like he has a phobia which is completely normal and just asking from Teamliquid for some help. I would suggest if its dead, to maybe get a broom or some sort and try and sweep it out the door, or maybe u could ask a neigbour to help u? But if its alive, and from what u've said it has wings, and touching it might make it take off, which will probaby freak the crap out of u, so i dont recomend that bit, if its alive...hmm...anymore info on what it looks like a bit more, i'm curious to know what type of bug it is
Thanks for your understanding.
I'm usually not that much of a pussy, but I have a giant bug phobia.
It is dead and I can just vacuum it up, or sweep it out, but the terror still lingers (which, in retrospect, might sound a tad overdramatic, if you can emphasize with bug phobia).
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If you are really afraid of an infestation, make it a point to get a can of Raid and spray your entire flat when you are leaving for work or school. Repeat the next day if you are feeling really paranoid or actually find an infestation.
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On March 23 2012 22:20 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 22:16 Shock710 wrote:On March 23 2012 22:09 NukeD wrote:
Your post got me so angry... FFS its just a bug, its affraid of you thtas why it clumped up, throw it out of your house and please dont kill it. Have some respect for other living creatures. Some people have phobias for bugs, u cant really blame him if he's scared. Phobias cant logical u cant be like oh its so muc smaller has no vemon therefore i can do what ever i want to it and not be afraid. Seems like he has a phobia which is completely normal and just asking from Teamliquid for some help. I would suggest if its dead, to maybe get a broom or some sort and try and sweep it out the door, or maybe u could ask a neigbour to help u? But if its alive, and from what u've said it has wings, and touching it might make it take off, which will probaby freak the crap out of u, so i dont recomend that bit, if its alive...hmm...anymore info on what it looks like a bit more, i'm curious to know what type of bug it is Thanks for your understanding. I'm usually not that much of a pussy, but I have a giant bug phobia. It is dead and I can just vacuum it up, or sweep it out, but the terror still lingers (which, in retrospect, might sound a tad overdramatic, if you can emphasize with bug phobia).
Have u swept it away, or something i still would like to know what the bug is, lol i'm just randomly curious. Its fine my best friend has a phobia of snakes, and anything that resemable a snake like form scares the shit out of her, and even after the ordeal she still shakes, so dw man. everyone is scared of something.
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On March 23 2012 22:20 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 22:16 Shock710 wrote:On March 23 2012 22:09 NukeD wrote:
Your post got me so angry... FFS its just a bug, its affraid of you thtas why it clumped up, throw it out of your house and please dont kill it. Have some respect for other living creatures. Some people have phobias for bugs, u cant really blame him if he's scared. Phobias cant logical u cant be like oh its so muc smaller has no vemon therefore i can do what ever i want to it and not be afraid. Seems like he has a phobia which is completely normal and just asking from Teamliquid for some help. I would suggest if its dead, to maybe get a broom or some sort and try and sweep it out the door, or maybe u could ask a neigbour to help u? But if its alive, and from what u've said it has wings, and touching it might make it take off, which will probaby freak the crap out of u, so i dont recomend that bit, if its alive...hmm...anymore info on what it looks like a bit more, i'm curious to know what type of bug it is Thanks for your understanding. I'm usually not that much of a pussy, but I have a giant bug phobia. It is dead and I can just vacuum it up, or sweep it out, but the terror still lingers (which, in retrospect, might sound a tad overdramatic, if you can emphasize with bug phobia).
Well...not sure if you've dealt with it already but maybe you can ask a friendly neighbor to throw it out for you if you have a phobia? Or maybe ask the caretaker of the building for signs of infestation. Seems a lot easier, people on the internet being how they are
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lysol + lighter
get a cup of water and hope your wall paint isn't exceptionally old (insanely flammable)
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or just spray the damn bug with lysol.
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or throw a heavy book on it. a book you don't mind just throwing away (since you're probably not cleaning bug goop off of it)
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or buy a cat. cats are cheaper than a new apartment, and that bug is big enough to attract your cat's attention.
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On March 23 2012 22:24 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 22:20 kafkaesque wrote:On March 23 2012 22:16 Shock710 wrote:On March 23 2012 22:09 NukeD wrote:
Your post got me so angry... FFS its just a bug, its affraid of you thtas why it clumped up, throw it out of your house and please dont kill it. Have some respect for other living creatures. Some people have phobias for bugs, u cant really blame him if he's scared. Phobias cant logical u cant be like oh its so muc smaller has no vemon therefore i can do what ever i want to it and not be afraid. Seems like he has a phobia which is completely normal and just asking from Teamliquid for some help. I would suggest if its dead, to maybe get a broom or some sort and try and sweep it out the door, or maybe u could ask a neigbour to help u? But if its alive, and from what u've said it has wings, and touching it might make it take off, which will probaby freak the crap out of u, so i dont recomend that bit, if its alive...hmm...anymore info on what it looks like a bit more, i'm curious to know what type of bug it is Thanks for your understanding. I'm usually not that much of a pussy, but I have a giant bug phobia. It is dead and I can just vacuum it up, or sweep it out, but the terror still lingers (which, in retrospect, might sound a tad overdramatic, if you can emphasize with bug phobia). Have u swept it away, or something i still would like to know what the bug is, lol i'm just randomly curious. Its fine my best friend has a phobia of snakes, and anything that resemable a snake like form scares the shit out of her, and even after the ordeal she still shakes, so dw man. everyone is scared of something.
It's still there (I hope...) and I've added a picture as well.
As soon as my neighbour is back, I'll ask her if she noticed something queer about insects in the building.
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On March 23 2012 22:28 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 22:24 Shock710 wrote:On March 23 2012 22:20 kafkaesque wrote:On March 23 2012 22:16 Shock710 wrote:On March 23 2012 22:09 NukeD wrote:
Your post got me so angry... FFS its just a bug, its affraid of you thtas why it clumped up, throw it out of your house and please dont kill it. Have some respect for other living creatures. Some people have phobias for bugs, u cant really blame him if he's scared. Phobias cant logical u cant be like oh its so muc smaller has no vemon therefore i can do what ever i want to it and not be afraid. Seems like he has a phobia which is completely normal and just asking from Teamliquid for some help. I would suggest if its dead, to maybe get a broom or some sort and try and sweep it out the door, or maybe u could ask a neigbour to help u? But if its alive, and from what u've said it has wings, and touching it might make it take off, which will probaby freak the crap out of u, so i dont recomend that bit, if its alive...hmm...anymore info on what it looks like a bit more, i'm curious to know what type of bug it is Thanks for your understanding. I'm usually not that much of a pussy, but I have a giant bug phobia. It is dead and I can just vacuum it up, or sweep it out, but the terror still lingers (which, in retrospect, might sound a tad overdramatic, if you can emphasize with bug phobia). Have u swept it away, or something i still would like to know what the bug is, lol i'm just randomly curious. Its fine my best friend has a phobia of snakes, and anything that resemable a snake like form scares the shit out of her, and even after the ordeal she still shakes, so dw man. everyone is scared of something. It's still there (I hope...) and I've added a picture as well. As soon as my neighbour is back, I'll ask her if she noticed something queer about insects in the building.
I saw the pic, its not very clear like u said. Too bad no one has invented an internet thing where u scan pics and it searched the internet for them (unless i've missed it, btw the ones in moives dont count)
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Kill it, cook it and eat it. If you've only seen one I wouldn't worry about it at all. If there's more, there are services dedicated to dealing with these little fuckers.
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Just knowing it's not a roach would help so much...
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Cockroaches are known for hissing
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On March 23 2012 22:33 kafkaesque wrote:
Just knowing it's not a roach would help so much...
Since you can't provide us with a better picture you will have to do your own research.
![[image loading]](http://pestcontrolsupplies.com/RoachSelection.jpg)
The antennae are an important sensory organ for the roaches, I'd expect these to be relatively long like on the picture.
http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/german.htm
Here's something on german roaches.
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On March 23 2012 22:42 Cainam wrote:
Cockroaches are known for hissing yes, they recite kafka in korean
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It isn't an infestation until you see more types of the same bug ..... You will do fine get a glove or something and use a toilet paper and cover it and throw it outside of the window .
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It doesn't appear to be a cockroach so honestly, kill it and move on with your life.
If you are really worried, take a high resolution picture and see if you can get in contact with a local entymologist at a university or museum. Idk what types of programs Germany has, but if your county/region has a local horticulture specialist that would probably be the best person to contact.
Unless you get like 2 or 3 more in your apartment in a short timespan you don't need to worry about an infestation. I'm guessing it's some type of bumblebee or cicada that just got stuck in the building and ended up in your unit somehow. Calm down and move on with your life.
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Just a small correction about bumble bees - it seems they don't even make that deep sound with their wings, but just with the wing muscles, so they normally do it even when not flying as a warm up. You can hear the sound here, to compare:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Bombus_buzz.ogg
and here are a couple of pictures:
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As TheToast noted it's very common for a random bumble bee or similar bug to find itself accidentally in someone's house, especially in the beginning of the spring.
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Research stimpack and combat shield, then slowly push
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On March 24 2012 02:30 synd wrote:
Research stimpack and combat shield, then slowly push
I LOL'd hard.
but to contribute: Stim packs and Combat Shields aren't the best against roach type units.
I Recommend Marauders. Abuse the fact that it doesn't have anti air capabilities with medivacs.
(In all seriousness, I hope you can solve this problem. Can you call for professional help? I would wait until you're sure that there are more than one though.)
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Uhh It sounds and looks like a rain beetle. they live underground not in houses. don't worry. did it rain in the past 3 days? if so, then yes 100% rain beetle. no need to worry you only have to deal with them after alot of rain. and they don't live long as beetles. nothing to worry about.
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On March 24 2012 03:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
Uhh It sounds and looks like a rain beetle. they live underground not in houses. don't worry. did it rain in the past 3 days? if so, then yes 100% rain beetle. no need to worry you only have to deal with them after alot of rain. and they don't live long as beetles. nothing to worry about.
It hasn't rained in a week, we have the best spring weather and I'm to mortified to leave the flat...
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On March 24 2012 04:35 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 03:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
Uhh It sounds and looks like a rain beetle. they live underground not in houses. don't worry. did it rain in the past 3 days? if so, then yes 100% rain beetle. no need to worry you only have to deal with them after alot of rain. and they don't live long as beetles. nothing to worry about. It hasn't rained in a week, we have the best spring weather and I'm to mortified to leave the flat...
Okay, you're either trolling or you need to seek some therapy, no one should be that freaked out because they found a bug in their apartment.
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On March 24 2012 04:43 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 04:35 kafkaesque wrote:On March 24 2012 03:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
Uhh It sounds and looks like a rain beetle. they live underground not in houses. don't worry. did it rain in the past 3 days? if so, then yes 100% rain beetle. no need to worry you only have to deal with them after alot of rain. and they don't live long as beetles. nothing to worry about. It hasn't rained in a week, we have the best spring weather and I'm to mortified to leave the flat... Okay, you're either trolling or you need to seek some therapy, no one should be that freaked out because they found a bug in their apartment.
Its hard not to suspect he's dicking around, given the ID. Probably just got busted for it too fast (what, like 4 posts in?) so he had to go at it longer. :D
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On March 24 2012 04:45 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 04:43 TheToast wrote:On March 24 2012 04:35 kafkaesque wrote:On March 24 2012 03:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
Uhh It sounds and looks like a rain beetle. they live underground not in houses. don't worry. did it rain in the past 3 days? if so, then yes 100% rain beetle. no need to worry you only have to deal with them after alot of rain. and they don't live long as beetles. nothing to worry about. It hasn't rained in a week, we have the best spring weather and I'm to mortified to leave the flat... Okay, you're either trolling or you need to seek some therapy, no one should be that freaked out because they found a bug in their apartment. Its hard not to suspect he's dicking around, given the ID. Probably just got busted for it too fast (what, like 4 posts in?) so he had to go at it longer. :D
Jesus...
I'm NOT trolling, and it's really hard to see what my name has to do with anything.
Just because Gregor Samsa is transformed into a bug?
I've been afraid of bugs (particularly large spiders) for all my life, if there's one issue I would not joke / troll about, it's this.
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On March 24 2012 06:42 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 04:45 Bibbit wrote:On March 24 2012 04:43 TheToast wrote:On March 24 2012 04:35 kafkaesque wrote:On March 24 2012 03:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
Uhh It sounds and looks like a rain beetle. they live underground not in houses. don't worry. did it rain in the past 3 days? if so, then yes 100% rain beetle. no need to worry you only have to deal with them after alot of rain. and they don't live long as beetles. nothing to worry about. It hasn't rained in a week, we have the best spring weather and I'm to mortified to leave the flat... Okay, you're either trolling or you need to seek some therapy, no one should be that freaked out because they found a bug in their apartment. Its hard not to suspect he's dicking around, given the ID. Probably just got busted for it too fast (what, like 4 posts in?) so he had to go at it longer. :D Jesus... I'm NOT trolling, and it's really hard to see what my name has to do with anything. Just because Gregor Samsa is transformed into a bug? I've been afraid of bugs (particularly large spiders) for all my life, if there's one issue I would not joke / troll about, it's this.
Haha I definitely hear you since I'm the same way and would probably be shitting my pants right about now in your position. But you can't tell me you dont see where we're coming from with this.
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Random questions: Do you by chance have any cats? Or a garden with roses?
I mention this because it could have gotten into the house that way. It sort of looks like some kind of rose beetle. They can be very large and extremely noisy, especially hissing sounds. My cats bring random shit home sometimes, ranging from large sticks and leaves, to bugs, mice and birds. One time my cat brought home a large beetle, not unlike the one in the picture. It made loud sounds, and unfortunately died (it was sort of pretty  ).
But if it doesn't look like a cockroach, I don't think you have too much to fear.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 23 2012 21:30 MisterD wrote:well google is convinced it's one of these: fits or wrong? doesn't really match the size you are describing though Oo
I'm not wearing any socks right now but I feel like I should wear shoes inside my house form now on. Thanks a lot.
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On March 23 2012 22:15 Kickboxer wrote:
Judging by the pic it's obviously Rammus with the chrome skin.
LoL
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sorry but finding a bug doesnt mean it's an infestation! Just get rid of it and be on the lookout for others ^^ no problem until you find like 5 more )
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