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On March 23 2012 07:23 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to. I went to a spa in Busan. They give you this tshirt and shorts. So I changed into them and then went out into the spa area. Then I noticed everyone was naked and immediately went back into the change room and took everything off hahaha. I did notice that everyone would leave any pool I went into, but just laughed about it and enjoyed my time there. It was fun. You should have gone 
well I am a big guy, and being surronded by skinny korean guys only makes me stick out more like a sore thumb than usual. a big naked white guy is not something I think Koreans would want in their sauna lol.
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On March 23 2012 13:53 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 07:23 Chill wrote:On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to. I went to a spa in Busan. They give you this tshirt and shorts. So I changed into them and then went out into the spa area. Then I noticed everyone was naked and immediately went back into the change room and took everything off hahaha. I did notice that everyone would leave any pool I went into, but just laughed about it and enjoyed my time there. It was fun. You should have gone well I am a big guy, and being surronded by skinny korean guys only makes me stick out more like a sore thumb than usual. a big naked white guy is not something I think Koreans would want in their sauna lol.
No one goes to the sauna to judge anyone on their bodies. Its just to relax and be comfortable. It will definitely be uncomfortable at first for you since you never done it but just try it and relax, forgetting about everything. People aren't going to say anything or stare so just have some fun! Unless there is a moral/religious reason not to, I don't see why you shouldn't try and then after that you can decide whether you want to continue or not. For me, I spent most of my childhood in America so I did find it uncomfortable at first, but now I consider it really the best way to blow some steam. Nothing is more relaxing to me than just lying down in warm herbal water, not thinking about anything.
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Nice blog! And yeah that bath house stuff is hardcore but I grow in love with it after going there a few times with Korean friends.
It is weird at first when you are naked and every other guys as well, but with a group of friends it can be super relax, and sleeping in sauna is awesome. We even play some card game after sauna while eating boiled eggs.
Its not true that Korean won't one a white guy in their sauna. Just accept it, if you are white and you are in any part of Asia people will at least give you a look/gawk. I saw some white guys in Korean sauna and they seems very happy there.
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Calgary25995 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:53 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 07:23 Chill wrote:On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to. I went to a spa in Busan. They give you this tshirt and shorts. So I changed into them and then went out into the spa area. Then I noticed everyone was naked and immediately went back into the change room and took everything off hahaha. I did notice that everyone would leave any pool I went into, but just laughed about it and enjoyed my time there. It was fun. You should have gone well I am a big guy, and being surronded by skinny korean guys only makes me stick out more like a sore thumb than usual. a big naked white guy is not something I think Koreans would want in their sauna lol.
its seriously no big deal. dont let this hold you back. if you dont give a shit, no one else will give a shit <--- welcome to real life.
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On March 23 2012 07:23 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to. I went to a spa in Busan. They give you this tshirt and shorts. So I changed into them and then went out into the spa area. Then I noticed everyone was naked and immediately went back into the change room and took everything off hahaha. I did notice that everyone would leave any pool I went into, but just laughed about it and enjoyed my time there. It was fun. You should have gone
@Chill
Why did everyone leave the pool you were in? Everyone in the thread keeps stating that it is a place of non-judgment. I am curious as to why you were treated as a pariah. Perhaps, you were imagining? Inquiring minds want to know!
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On March 23 2012 14:13 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 13:53 masterbreti wrote:On March 23 2012 07:23 Chill wrote:On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to. I went to a spa in Busan. They give you this tshirt and shorts. So I changed into them and then went out into the spa area. Then I noticed everyone was naked and immediately went back into the change room and took everything off hahaha. I did notice that everyone would leave any pool I went into, but just laughed about it and enjoyed my time there. It was fun. You should have gone well I am a big guy, and being surronded by skinny korean guys only makes me stick out more like a sore thumb than usual. a big naked white guy is not something I think Koreans would want in their sauna lol. its seriously no big deal. dont let this hold you back. if you dont give a shit, no one else will give a shit <--- welcome to real life.
hmm, well I'll have to think about it, I'll only go if they ask me again, which is unlikely. I'm very self self conscious and really don't want to, but for korean culture I may just say "fuck it" and go.
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Calgary25995 Posts
On March 23 2012 14:46 PlainShane wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 07:23 Chill wrote:On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to. I went to a spa in Busan. They give you this tshirt and shorts. So I changed into them and then went out into the spa area. Then I noticed everyone was naked and immediately went back into the change room and took everything off hahaha. I did notice that everyone would leave any pool I went into, but just laughed about it and enjoyed my time there. It was fun. You should have gone @Chill Why did everyone leave the pool you were in? Everyone in the thread keeps stating that it is a place of non-judgment. I am curious as to why you were treated as a pariah. Perhaps, you were imagining? Inquiring minds want to know!
2 things:
1. Koreans are scared of foreigners. There aren't a lot in everyday Korean life so it's just like "wtf is this?"
2. Koreans are scared to speak English. They have this irrational fear of "MAYBE HE'LL SPEAK ENGLISH TO ME!!??"
I didn't care. There were like 15 different hot tubs it didn't make a difference to me.
Edit: I wasn't imagining it. Because there were a bunch of different pools at different temperatures and different salts, I wanted to try them all.
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Calgary25995 Posts
On March 23 2012 15:02 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 14:13 Chill wrote:On March 23 2012 13:53 masterbreti wrote:On March 23 2012 07:23 Chill wrote:On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to. I went to a spa in Busan. They give you this tshirt and shorts. So I changed into them and then went out into the spa area. Then I noticed everyone was naked and immediately went back into the change room and took everything off hahaha. I did notice that everyone would leave any pool I went into, but just laughed about it and enjoyed my time there. It was fun. You should have gone well I am a big guy, and being surronded by skinny korean guys only makes me stick out more like a sore thumb than usual. a big naked white guy is not something I think Koreans would want in their sauna lol. its seriously no big deal. dont let this hold you back. if you dont give a shit, no one else will give a shit <--- welcome to real life. hmm, well I'll have to think about it, I'll only go if they ask me again, which is unlikely. I'm very self self conscious and really don't want to, but for korean culture I may just say "fuck it" and go.
Don't be a baby.
Anyways I'll be there in a month :D
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I've never experienced Koreans purposely moving away from pools I've entered in saunas, so I imagine Chill's experience was an isolated one. On the contrary, I've even had numerous conversations in saunas with total strangers. Your mileage may vary.
@masterbreti Seriously, just do it. You won't stand out any more in a sauna as a bigger white guy as you do in the rest of Korea as a bigger white guy. The mindset is the same inside and outside a sauna. Needless to say, it's also extremely relaxing.
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On March 23 2012 15:06 TheKwas wrote:
I've never experienced Koreans purposely moving away from pools I've entered in saunas, so I imagine Chill's experience was an isolated one. On the contrary, I've even had numerous conversations in saunas with total strangers in saunas. Your mileage may vary.
@masterbreti Seriously, just do it. You won't stand out any more in a sauna as a bigger white guy as you do in the rest of Korea as a bigger white guy. The mindset is the same inside and outside a sauna. Needless to say, it's also extremely relaxing.
The difference is I'm not walking around Korea naked. but like I said, if they ask me again (which I don't think they will) then I'll say yes. but I'm not going to ask to go, cause that would be super awkward for me zzzzz
On March 23 2012 15:05 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 15:02 masterbreti wrote:On March 23 2012 14:13 Chill wrote:On March 23 2012 13:53 masterbreti wrote:On March 23 2012 07:23 Chill wrote:On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to. I went to a spa in Busan. They give you this tshirt and shorts. So I changed into them and then went out into the spa area. Then I noticed everyone was naked and immediately went back into the change room and took everything off hahaha. I did notice that everyone would leave any pool I went into, but just laughed about it and enjoyed my time there. It was fun. You should have gone well I am a big guy, and being surronded by skinny korean guys only makes me stick out more like a sore thumb than usual. a big naked white guy is not something I think Koreans would want in their sauna lol. its seriously no big deal. dont let this hold you back. if you dont give a shit, no one else will give a shit <--- welcome to real life. hmm, well I'll have to think about it, I'll only go if they ask me again, which is unlikely. I'm very self self conscious and really don't want to, but for korean culture I may just say "fuck it" and go. Don't be a baby. Anyways I'll be there in a month :D
haha I'll buy you a beer while you are here then. unless its hardcore grind time around here, which is like 4 out of every 5 weeks.
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Introduce me to the Prime guys and I'll invite everyone out to a sauna! ^________________^
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On March 23 2012 15:06 TheKwas wrote:
@masterbreti Seriously, just do it. You won't stand out any more in a sauna as a bigger white guy as you do in the rest of Korea as a bigger white guy.
whelp then be prepared to be stared at by everyone!
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Zurich15363 Posts
On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to.
Haha you would love Germany http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=173858
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On March 23 2012 17:59 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 15:06 TheKwas wrote:
@masterbreti Seriously, just do it. You won't stand out any more in a sauna as a bigger white guy as you do in the rest of Korea as a bigger white guy. whelp then be prepared to be stared at by everyone!
See!!! rekrul knows what I would expect. Though to be honest.I really have never been stared at in Korea so far, more just a smile if anything, they see me and I greet them with a big smile, and they smile back.
but Naked, yeah I think that going to be a different story. I have to admit, I think even the prime guys would stare at me. which would make me feel totally awkward.
On March 23 2012 18:47 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 06:43 masterbreti wrote:
so being asked to go to a sauna isn't a bad thing in Korea? well I think i may or may not have offended the Koreans here T_T
Cause when the prime members kept asking me to go, I flatly refused. Auctally I refused several times on different occasions.
I don't understand that part of Korean culture where people can be naked aorund each other. I had to finally get someone who knew english to explain to them that in western culture it is not common for people to get naked aorund each other. They didn't really seem to understand it really well. I'll do the chopsticks, I'll do the other different parts of Korean culture, but Korean sauna, thats not something I'll likely adapt to. or am I taking the wrong approach on this?
I guess the biggest thing for me is because I am a big guy, I don't want people looking at me naked, hell, I don't even want to look at myself naked, why would I punish other people of having to. Haha you would love Germany http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=173858
ironically I'm half german on my mothers side. But I guess I didn't get that part of the german gene haha.
but just to add a funny story. The first time I was asked to go to a sauna, They said bathhouse. Now where I am from (near toronto) a bathhouse isn't just just for bathing, if you know what I mean. So I looked at them, and had the wtf expression on my face. I laughed awkwardly and said that I'm not like that. They looked at me even werider, thank god Gerrard called his sister to explain what a bathhouse was. I don't think she knew what bathhouses are in Canada (or at least in toronto).
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I do not see your irrational fear of the bath.
If anyone stares, it is because you are a foreigner, not because you are fat.
If else, how would every other fat individual participate in public baths? Particularly the older population? Helpful hint, no one cares and no one really looks closely because of whatever your physical trait happens to be unless you are protruding a third arm out of your belly.
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ㅈㅈㅂs are fucking amazing. except you have to be sure not to stay in the sauna too long if you're fucked up because you'll get really dehydrated.
it's a weird experience at first, but when you go, it's nice to just talk with your close friends and kind of sober up a little. and they have patbingsoo. and ramen. also the eggs.
koreans are really touchy, but i'm really touchy with my close friends so it didn't bother me too much.
slapping guy friends asses isn't gay. cmon.
bromance is life.
but the thing about koreans is friendships are soooo tight, i used to think it was weird to just drink with guys, but the friends i made in korea, i became so close with that we would just eat chicken and drink in our rooms, it's one of the more special things about korea i think.
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I really don't think you guys should mind about the sauna. First of all, if you are worried that you are too big (as in body size and you know what), there are bound to be the big thugs with dragon and tiger tattoos all over their body bigger than you are. These meatbags are all over the place and often seen in saunas.
Also, about being naked... even in Canada, you go to the gym, and everyone walks around naked in the locker room after shower... so I don't get what the issue is. These are white and black and asian men walking around in YMCA or Good Life naked. No one gives a crap about your Johnson
p.s. anyone know how to create a blog?
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United States1719 Posts
On March 23 2012 22:21 mizU wrote:
ㅈㅈㅂs are fucking amazing. except you have to be sure not to stay in the sauna too long if you're fucked up because you'll get really dehydrated.
Immediately thought 지지배 when I saw ㅈㅈㅂ. 지지배 > 찜질방 any day anyway
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 24 2012 00:34 rotinegg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 22:21 mizU wrote:
ㅈㅈㅂs are fucking amazing. except you have to be sure not to stay in the sauna too long if you're fucked up because you'll get really dehydrated.
Immediately thought 지지배 when I saw ㅈㅈㅂ. 지지배 > 찜질방 any day anyway
lol! I don't see how you could have thought of that first, you must hang out with too many girls lol.
But just to get to many of the points.
1. Of course it's just better to just come to Korea, but anyway, to just leave it at that, you can say that about any country, 'just come and see for yourself' lol, and anyway, these are thing that I enjoy keke.
2. I'm so fat right now, my belly is about 70% of my body, so no one really cares and I'd say, going to a public bath house is not Rekul's type of social activity as well as his friends. To this date, I've never gotten Rek to go with me in like 8 years and Giyom has only go with me like 5 times and I'm like the kinda guy who goes at least once a week. And we all lived together on and off over a 5 year period lol. The point is in Korea when it comes to nudity between men. WE DON'T CARE.
Also I don't even know if Rek ever went to a sauna ever lol.
Our bodies isn't for other men, our dicks, and our looks, is for women only. Korean guys, we understand that, who cares how we look in front of other men? As long as my dick functions when it needs to, great! But when I'm with my friends (and I only have close friends that are guys in Korea), that is the last thing on my mind, especially at a sauna or 'gimgil bang' (steam/hot place) where after you wash yourself you can go change into the close they give you and you hang out for a few hours there.
3. Ultimately, we go cause we want to relax and hang out with friends there, and I would say, while it may be akward at first, but when you go a few times and really realize that Korea doesn't care about nudity among the same gender, I'm sure you'll feel more relaxed than you have ever.
4. In terms of taking about homosexuality. I never comes up as a topic of discussion simply because we don't think it is an issue. There are gays, but they find their own social circles and like many other countries, you can find them very visible as hair stylists, fashion industry, etc, but generally, it's not that we ignore that homosexuality exists, but for Koreans we wouldn't think that it is very common and that in Korea, I think it would hard to hide being homosexual considering how close we are physically. Our physical closeness is not sexual at all, it is child like and it would be extremely obvious to another guy if suddenly they guy started to get close in a sexual way, Koreans are very attuned to being 'comfortable' with one another, if there is even a hint of non-comfort, it is very obvious. And I'd think it is the same for those Koreans who are homosexual, they get that as well and move to different social circles. But one thing is clear, the circles don't mix, but neither do we think badly of it or have any judgement at all.
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
ohhh Chill you will be here in a month! lol.
We will have to go eating, drinking, sauna. haha.
-maybe organize a TL meet up when you are here keke.
Also, Korean't aren't scared of foreigners in a physical way, more like, some less educated Koreans may think that all foreigners have certain micro-organisms with them that could be passed along through the water. lol. You must have looked like one of those types of foreigners lol.
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