• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:45
CET 05:45
KST 13:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1833
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1487 users

Weird P vs P

Blogs > Valnus
Post a Reply
Valnus
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
South Africa17 Posts
March 08 2012 18:32 GMT
#1
My first game on the silver ladder tonight, and my opponent is another Protoss player. As usual I'm pretty nervous when playing any player nevermind Protoss. I started off this game deciding not to go DTs. The reason for this is I have not practiced it that often, and I'm not sure how to pull it off successfully. So I decided to fast void Ray him instead figuring he will most likely four gate me.
As usual and as any game will start with the good luck have fun, a star of mining crystals and gas still mulling over my strategy. Looking at my opponents play he decided for a very very early scout. He started scouting at seven supply, Rond about the time the normal good luck have fun went out. Probe production is getting better I think my macro is improving and the advice I got from a more experienced player is starting to improve my game.

My standard opening of nine supply pylon then scout, just feels comfortable I don't think I'll be changing that soon. I am not sure what my opponent is doing he placed a pylon and a forge on the far left side of the map. In retrospect he obviously went for a canon push. Having found my base, he proceeded to place pylons at my natural. Deploying the Canon push, unfortunately for him my first Zealot came out at the three fourty six mark. And again Bob saves the day, rushing down the ramp to engage the pylon that is warping in. Now I have to mention, this all happens before my cybernetics is even out. As usual I use Crone boost on my and cybernetics, and immediately summon more units. At 5:16 I drop three gateways and my opponent concedes.

Still not sure, I could have won that if he pressed on. When I check the replay, he did not build any gateways or Robo's. Funny enough, I suspected foul play when I scouted him on the nine food mark and I did not see any structures not even a pylon.

Well yay for me then

Valnus


*
If your not haveing fun.....your missing the point
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45216 Posts
March 08 2012 18:52 GMT
#2
Interesting game ^^

You say this:

So I decided to fast void Ray him instead figuring he will most likely four gate me.


That's quite interesting. Generally, in PvP, a stargate opening beats a robotics opening (because the robo player has fewer stalkers to shoot at the air, plus phoenix/ void ray do just fine attacking colossi or lifting immortals, if necessary). In general, a lot of gateways is good against stargate play, because as soon as you show your air units, your opponent is going to mass up on stalkers and overrun you- especially at the lower level.

Food for thought
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Valnus
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
South Africa17 Posts
March 08 2012 19:39 GMT
#3
Noted thanks Plasma
If your not haveing fun.....your missing the point
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft454
RuFF_SC2 177
Ketroc 43
StarCraft: Brood War
Noble 273
Shuttle 83
Shine 71
ZergMaN 52
Hm[arnc] 14
Icarus 10
Bale 9
Dota 2
monkeys_forever370
NeuroSwarm118
League of Legends
JimRising 712
C9.Mang0517
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1355
Other Games
summit1g7030
XaKoH 303
hungrybox279
ViBE41
minikerr24
Liquid`Ken6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2652
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 144
• practicex 30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 59
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo741
• Stunt340
Other Games
• Scarra1579
Upcoming Events
OSC
7h 16m
SKillous vs ArT
ArT vs Babymarine
NightMare vs TriGGeR
YoungYakov vs TBD
All Star Teams
21h 31m
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 7h
AI Arena Tournament
1d 15h
All Star Teams
1d 21h
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-14
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.