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I need ways to motivate myself to play.

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-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 02:18:08
March 06 2012 02:17 GMT
#1
Hello everyone, im a mid-high master's level protoss player and I need some ways / though processes to motivate myself to MASS ladder games. I want to be high master / GM level, but it takes a lot of "mass gaming" sessions to get there. Currently I play a few games, then stop queuing as I'm too nervous / frustrated.

Just a few things that worry me when I want to queue for ladder;
-The setting isn't right. I'm not warmed up. I'm not focused. It's too hot/cold. etc.
-I don't want my Win / Loss ratio to go negative. A lot of people on forums / on my team will immediately think I'm a BAD master play for having a negative W/L, but realistically if I do go negative it's because I'm playing super-high level master players, it's not that I'm losing to the bad master players (ex. I posted on the bnet forums, someone says ur w/l is negative ur bad etc, when realistically my rank is high in masters)

-Don't want my "ego" shattered. In the back of my mind i think I'm an amazing sc2 player with mechanics at the level of huk etc (my apm is pretty high!;p).. but I'm not. And I have to face this, and truely realize it. That way, If I lose a frustrating game I don't immediately start thinking wth I'm so good how did i lose to this scrub ETC

So, what are some thought processes to help me correct this? I actually have 2 master accounts but now they both have my team name in it so I feel pressured to win on both lol.. I want there to be no pressure T_T

Thanks!

BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
March 06 2012 02:32 GMT
#2
seems to me you have ladder fear. just forget about the record and just play
Jar Jar Binks
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 06 2012 02:34 GMT
#3
You realize your putting all this "pressure" on your self right? Its not like this is your job and you need to win to keep your rent or something. Also stop caring about what other people think when it comes to your W/L, its just the ladder... I think your pride or "ego" is ruining your ability to play. You need to just think about the game more and less of this other stuff. Also why not just play a bunch of custom games if you really don't want your w/l to get messed up. My two cents lol, Good luck!
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
March 06 2012 02:35 GMT
#4
record is everything. If you are gonna slip up on a big win streak, think of the gayest strategy to do, preferrably proxy 2 gate or cannon rushes to maintain this streak. By not losing, you will attain the mmr required to become a grandmaster.
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12354 Posts
March 06 2012 02:35 GMT
#5
I usually play some team games before I go into 1v1 ladder because I can test out the lag and how I feel about sc2 today.
About the win/loss ratio, I am not a master but I would tell you just ignore it. If that's the reason why you think you don't want a bad w/l ratio, then just ignore b.net. I mean bnet forum is a pretty bad place to talk about anything because of how much trolling there are...
About the Ego, yes, I do feel this way too. Luckily that also means that I know what aspect I can work on to get better.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
uoeahtns
Profile Joined February 2012
52 Posts
March 06 2012 02:37 GMT
#6
A few things I like to keep in mind while laddering are:
1. The best aren't good because they didn't play
2. If you are going to improve, it shouldn't rely on whether you "felt like it" or not.
3. Embrace your losses. A player with an open mind to losses will be able to rationally examine while they lost and maybe fix the problem they had.

Now to address a few of your problems:
1. Saying you win vs high masters and lose to low masters is the wrong way to go about it. Blame your losses on yourself, not the other player.
2. If you don't want your ego shattered, then get so good that you never lose, just like the pros did.
3. You never lose to scrubs. They beat you after all, how could they be?
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 06 2012 02:40 GMT
#7
Why are there so many threads about this? Stop being a baby. I don't even want to elaborate what that means, just stop being a baby. No one respects you now, you're not going to lose anything. If you're worried about your team judging you based on your record, literally all you have to do is play some games with your fellow team members to give them the confidence you aren't slipping.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 02:48:00
March 06 2012 02:47 GMT
#8
yeah i understand, and it doesn't help that people are so mean on ladder >.<. I can't turn on "friend's only chat" or then my teammates can't message me, so I get a ton of BM after games which tilts / makes me even more scared to ladder. ie. I lose a game where I go for a 2 base all in, the zerg bms me after the game like crazy
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 06 2012 02:52 GMT
#9
take your finger, put it in the door frame, slam the door on it hard. then, every time you lose a game and experience ladder fear, know that it will never be as bad as what you just did to your finger. major payne approves.
Sagamantha
Profile Joined September 2011
United States339 Posts
March 06 2012 02:58 GMT
#10
Just go all out my friend. Who cares what everyone thinks of you? You're bettering yourself, you'll not find one person in history who didn't take a risk to better their position. There are rarely free ways of bettering yourself, and mass laddering is one of them. THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN HURT YOU OUT THERE. You'll still have a house, a family, friends and others. They may lose respect for you, but as Chef said, "if they are starting to doubt you, then all you have to do is play them and they will see that you are the same place if not better ."

GL HF.

GO FORTH AND CONQUER YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES.
trueCOMEHfan [16:21] <Qbek> hey sagamama [16:21] <Qbek> you ain;t targe bad
SargentSurreal
Profile Joined March 2011
6 Posts
March 06 2012 03:33 GMT
#11
There are people who do things and people who talk about doing things. If you keep playing games you might lose a couple extra just due to fatigue, but you need to play some marathon sessions until you can play any strategy e-sport @ its highest level. GL on the ladder.

On March 06 2012 11:17 xOny wrote:
Hello everyone, im a mid-high master's level protoss player and I need some ways / though processes to motivate myself to MASS ladder games. I want to be high master / GM level, but it takes a lot of "mass gaming" sessions to get there. Currently I play a few games, then stop queuing as I'm too nervous / frustrated.

Just a few things that worry me when I want to queue for ladder;
-The setting isn't right. I'm not warmed up. I'm not focused. It's too hot/cold. etc.
-I don't want my Win / Loss ratio to go negative. A lot of people on forums / on my team will immediately think I'm a BAD master play for having a negative W/L, but realistically if I do go negative it's because I'm playing super-high level master players, it's not that I'm losing to the bad master players (ex. I posted on the bnet forums, someone says ur w/l is negative ur bad etc, when realistically my rank is high in masters)

-Don't want my "ego" shattered. In the back of my mind i think I'm an amazing sc2 player with mechanics at the level of huk etc (my apm is pretty high!;p).. but I'm not. And I have to face this, and truely realize it. That way, If I lose a frustrating game I don't immediately start thinking wth I'm so good how did i lose to this scrub ETC

So, what are some thought processes to help me correct this? I actually have 2 master accounts but now they both have my team name in it so I feel pressured to win on both lol.. I want there to be no pressure T_T

Thanks!

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Russet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States48 Posts
March 06 2012 03:37 GMT
#12
Watch this video and click the button
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IamNatural
Profile Joined November 2011
64 Posts
March 06 2012 03:43 GMT
#13
when you want to warm up, play 1-5 2v2 games before you ladder 1v1. I do this alot, because of uni i cannot play everyday so i play a few 2v2's where i dont care if i lose or not because all im doing is practising my builds! :D.


Stop looking at your W/L everyday. its like stocks, if you look at your stocks everyday you will go crazy because it changes so much everyday. try to only look at it once a week, or once a month, it will level out.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
March 06 2012 03:51 GMT
#14
If you can give simple reasons like these (if they are the real reasons) for why you don't want to ladder, then you don't need this forum to tell you.

If you can't, then nothing anyone will say will help.

There are some people in this thread that I'd like to call tools, but TL rules and all that.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
hersenen
Profile Joined November 2011
Belize176 Posts
March 06 2012 03:58 GMT
#15
If you don't like playing or are forcing yourself to play...

maybe you shouldn't.
HungrySC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States191 Posts
March 06 2012 04:05 GMT
#16
Read your own words and take your own advice.
"First say to yourself what you would be; And then do what you have to do. (Epictetus)
liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
March 06 2012 04:39 GMT
#17
On March 06 2012 11:35 Br3ezy wrote:
record is everything. If you are gonna slip up on a big win streak, think of the gayest strategy to do, preferrably proxy 2 gate or cannon rushes to maintain this streak. By not losing, you will attain the mmr required to become a grandmaster.

This guy has the right idea...
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
March 06 2012 04:57 GMT
#18
On March 06 2012 11:17 xOny wrote:
-Don't want my "ego" shattered. In the back of my mind i think I'm an amazing sc2 player with mechanics at the level of huk etc (my apm is pretty high!;p).. but I'm not. And I have to face this, and truely realize it. That way, If I lose a frustrating game I don't immediately start thinking wth I'm so good how did i lose to this scrub ETC


You already answered your own request.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 06 2012 06:39 GMT
#19
force yourself to accept that getting better is more important than winning
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
March 06 2012 09:41 GMT
#20
On March 06 2012 15:39 Divinek wrote:
force yourself to accept that getting better is more important than winning

That's pretty much what I do when I play, I went from Masters to Gold after not playing for close to a year and its hard to lose a ton of games to players who would usually be "inferior" but just shrugging off that ego and enjoying yourself is key. BW also has recently taught me to not bother losing, that game makes winning feel amazing but losing feel common. lol
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