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On January 07 2012 21:32 FractalsOnFire wrote:
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! 62% average is the floor for PROBATION?!?!?!
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!!?
Man i know so many people that scrape passes and even fail multiple units who still aren't on probation. Fuck Australia is awesome. Hell even i'm only on a 66% average and my GPA is ~5.28/7.
The scaling isn't the same in Australia compared to US/Canada.
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Dude, you are who you are.
dont be the guy who posts on a forum and loses all impetus because of it.
People who arnt talking about what they are doing are the ones who are doing it.
I dropped out of uni btw, its not all bad for me ... i got 2 years headstart on my friends commercially. They are all fighting over a few very academic jobs wheras I worked for companies so have a larger job pool. I am jealous of them as they get to do fun things with AI wheras i get to make LOB applications and have to satisfy myself with architectural problems. But then i did end up working for really dodgy telesales companies and had to keep a scaffolding bar by my desk for protection. You make your own bed.
I donty get this you must exceed 66% bollocks ... surley the marking scale should be shifted... because now all the top students only have 34% of the percentile range to be distributed in. Less because i bet 90 is exceptional and rarely given ... so now all students are crammed into a 25% range.
Make anything below say 30-40 a fail and mark harsher then the good students can really begin to differentiate themselves.
The uni has clearly scored less than 66% in their marking scheme.
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On January 07 2012 16:09 Ushio wrote:
This was definitely a wake-up call. Nights of playing starcraft and skyrim, I am the only one to blame.
I'll definitely put more effort than I ever have, the possibility of getting kicked out scares me to death.
While your situation is definitely a problem, this kind of attitude is really impressive and exactly the sort of thing which will hope you improve and succeed in the future. You have accepted responsibility for your actions and believe in your ability to influence your own life through smart decisions and actions. So while you may have slacked off until now, this attitude shows maturity and responsibility, and if you can follow through with that resolution, you will have no problem turning things around. Good luck!
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On January 07 2012 23:04 Imperium11 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 16:09 Ushio wrote:
This was definitely a wake-up call. Nights of playing starcraft and skyrim, I am the only one to blame.
I'll definitely put more effort than I ever have, the possibility of getting kicked out scares me to death. While your situation is definitely a problem, this kind of attitude is really impressive and exactly the sort of thing which will hope you improve and succeed in the future. You have accepted responsibility for your actions and believe in your ability to influence your own life through smart decisions and actions. So while you may have slacked off until now, this attitude shows maturity and responsibility, and if you can follow through with that resolution, you will have no problem turning things around. Good luck!
Thanks man, means alot, lets make this a good year
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I had an adjustment period in my freshman year of undergrad. I went from mid 90's avg in highschool without ever doing anything, to having an average around 60 with 5 100 level courses.
In general grades will go up as you go along. But university is definitely more work than high school was.
I remember covering everything from high school calculus in about 15 minutes in my first calc 101.
Oh god..... dy
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Here's the good part: probation is a warning to get your act together, so there's a little time to actually get your act together.
Here's the bad part: If you don't get your act together you're going to get kicked out of school.
I've been through all of this. I went to a very demanding college (the same science and engineering school where Day[9] and qxc have gone) and failed some classes, got more bad grades, and eventually was asked to leave.
After a year, I was able to get back in and finish with a decent record. HOWEVER -- oh my god, if I had it all to do over again I would have gotten back on task after the first sign of problems.
Take a step back and look at how you're spending your time. Your first goal should be to get enough sleep. Second should be to attend every class. Third should be getting your assignments done. These things are all interconnected, and if you don't do 1 and 2, 3 isn't even possible.
You are in a very privileged position to have the chance to attend school on mom and dad's dime. Make it work. You may not have as many second chances as I did.
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The only probation I got put on was Alcohol Probation.
My parents thought it was pretty funny.
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In my first year of college I dropped from a 3.75 in the first semester to a 1.73 in the second and, this, put on probation. Buy I'm still going. My advice, never forget the feeling of getting bad grades and use that to motivate you.
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On January 07 2012 21:46 FractalsOnFire wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 21:37 ooni wrote:On January 07 2012 21:32 FractalsOnFire wrote:
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! 62% average is the floor for PROBATION?!?!?!
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!!?
Man i know so many people that scrape passes and even fail multiple units who still aren't on probation. Fuck Australia is awesome. Hell even i'm only on a 66% average and my GPA is ~5.28/7. no Australian system has a different standard. 85 in Australia (which is HD) is same as A+ in elsewhere. Probation in Australia is failing 50% of the subjects. And probation amount in Australia is probably higher than other countries. Our marking system is really wtf, but at the end, quite rewarding when you see that HD. Actually HD for UWA is 80%+, also the A+ is usually 90%+ in Canada and US. Probably should have replaced Australia with University of Western Australia. Though i can't comment on the assessments and the content, i highly doubt it would deviate that much from Australia.
Sadly it does deviated that much from Australia. The reason is the definition of HD is under 5% of ranking (using the bell graph, that's the system in UNSW and Usyd, I do not know about UWA). Let's say there are 100 people in the course. If you got 90 RAW mark but there were 5 people who got 95, you will get 84 at best, but most likely around 80 marks. This is much worse for Macquarie University, as their scaling system is much more severe. Perhaps I was generalising for NSW and Vic universities, although that's what people consider "Australian Universities".
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I don't mean to pour any more salt on the wound, but this is going to haunt you for some time to come. Even if you get straight A's from now on, you probably won't even be able to get a 3.9.
It is good that you're taking responsibility though.
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First year is generally the easier year, I found it fairly straightforward and got around 80-90 in all courses except math (fuck proofs). This was with me dicking around half the time on SC2 and other games. I think 2nd year is when shit gets real for most programs. Shape up, focus, and you'll definitely do fine, just don't relapse into laziness. Good luck!
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Just remember that you're going to spend the same amount of raw time on assignments whether you start them now or later (assuming you don't dick around while you're doing them), so you might as well finish them when you get them so you feel less stressed the day before they're due. It'll also get a load off your back so you can play SC as much as you want without thinking about schoolwork. My mom always used to tell me back before college that when you play, you want to play 100%, and when you do work, you want to work 100%. None of that waffling around in the middle -- it's seriously not fun -- so finish assignments ASAP so you can play 100% later when everyone else is stressing about shit.
Good luck, try harder. I hope you're retaking some of those classes.
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First two years of college I failed it, didn't care, just got grades good enough to pass and stay on my parents payroll. I also had a wake up call (been lying about grades and almost got caught). After I realized that I want to try, and it will do nothing but help, I have had a 3.8 and everything and its ALOT of work, but it feels good man. After you get that first semester of good grades you will understand. Just give it one term and you will feel alot better.
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