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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 04:09:57
January 01 2012 04:09 GMT
#21
Nono, that's called mocking someone. If someone doesn't understand they're being mocked, that doesn't necessarily mean the person mocking them is trolling (deliberately trying to trick them).

Trolling is luring someone with bait (saying something dumb, offering something weird, etc). It's debatable whether the goal is to get them to write a bunch of stuff in anger, or if it's just to somehow make them the ass of a clever ruse, but the idea is that they must be tricked and you must be trying to trick them.

To clarify, when I say 'deny the holocaust' I mean that the troll him or herself does not believe the holocaust never happened, he or she simply says it didn't to provoke someone. I used to tell my cousin Franz Ferdinand was just a band and wasn't based on anything so that she would get angry enough to start shouting at me about how WWI started. Which was funny because we both knew I know a heck of a lot more about history than she does, but for some reason she would rather think I'm an idiot than joking. Often when someone doesn't get a joke/sarcasm, it can turn into trolling. But that's still different from mocking.
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Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 04:20:44
January 01 2012 04:14 GMT
#22
Hot_Bid isn't a troll rofl, he's just a person with a good sense of humor.

There is a difference. The difference being whether or not deceit is intended. The only real trolls we have are the occasional t-dot and various GAMER GURL and girlfriend blogs.

Seriously this post is thread is so fail of fail that the OP is probably trolling himself lol. Jeffk the first troll? Seriously? Even Wikipedia will tell you that it is wrong. How can someone even troll in a scripted sitcom, when he is playing the part of an unintentionally awkward person.

headasplodes
Too Busy to Troll!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 05:25:20
January 01 2012 05:25 GMT
#23
On January 01 2012 13:14 Half wrote:

Seriously this post is thread is so fail of fail that the OP is probably trolling himself lol. Jeffk the first troll? Seriously? Even Wikipedia will tell you that it is wrong.


even WIKIPEDIA
.
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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
January 01 2012 05:31 GMT
#24
On January 01 2012 14:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 13:14 Half wrote:

Seriously this post is thread is so fail of fail that the OP is probably trolling himself lol. Jeffk the first troll? Seriously? Even Wikipedia will tell you that it is wrong.


even WIKIPEDIA
.

hahahahaha omg. +1 for the comedic timing
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
mothergoose729
Profile Joined December 2010
United States666 Posts
January 01 2012 07:49 GMT
#25
I don't agree with the OP so much. A troll is someone who intentionally causes trouble and gets a reaction out of folks. It doesn't matter if they are a known troll or not. The success of their trolling is not measured as such either. For instance, two of the most successful trolls in all of SC2 are Deezer and CombatEX. Few people would argue with that. Their trolling in this game is nothing short of legendary. They don't trick people, pretend to be something else, or use any sort of clever mind games at all. Just thought I would add that in their.

Also, and I think this needs to be said to, someone who has a sense of humor and fucks with people from time to time is not a troll. To often the term troll is used as a term of endearment for someone they like. They aren't trolling, they are just being funny.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
January 01 2012 11:08 GMT
#26
Let me tell you what trolling truly is. It's a word. Now go ahead and keep arguing over that word. I'm sure it's time well spent if you enjoy it so much.
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snexwang
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia224 Posts
January 01 2012 12:15 GMT
#27
The problem is that people confuse "troll" with either "douchebag" or "someone who doesn't agree with me".
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
January 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#28
On January 01 2012 21:15 snexwang wrote:
The problem is that people confuse "troll" with either "douchebag" or "someone who doesn't agree with me".


That statement is pure gold Thank you!
Snaiil
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden312 Posts
January 01 2012 21:04 GMT
#29
On January 01 2012 02:29 Coagulation wrote:
I view "RL trolling" as 99% obnoxious and juvenile. Hardly ever does it result in genuine comedy.


Pretty good representation of those RL trolls:
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 21:42:31
January 01 2012 21:27 GMT
#30
well trolling IRL, like pranking, can be as malicious or light-hearted as you like.

you might wonder what examples there are of "light hearted" pranks or trolls. idk any pranks but my fav IRL troll so far has been going up to random strangers as they pass by in the street and telling them they have a bit of toilet paper stuck to their backs, then walking away from them. you can watch them keep looking with embarrassment for the toilet paper for quite some time before they give up an continue their journey. harmless, hilarious.

why is it so good? you invoke an unusual reaction - embarrassment! a bit like the old "your flies are undone" but it lasts for longer

i guess if you feel like you can explain the troll/prank to the target and know he'd find it equally funny/clever/amusing and whatever problem or inconvenience is involved is easily remedied then you can consider it in good humour. telling someone the wrong directions to the post office is, however, neither clever nor particularly funny; a malicious troll. you can still get off on it because you're successfully tricking someone.

british culture has a history of good-humoured troll comedy (back to the Goon Show which used puns or play on words and accidental-troll characters such as the elderly Minnie , Eckles, Bloodnok, actually pretty much all of them were trolling each other. monty python - trolls, from the Vagina song to the man who made a xylophone out of live mice. british comedy culture is way beyond anything else.

i guess that explains why a lot of people will say "all trolls must die". if your country culture take on trolling is just being an obnoxious twat then you're missing out on the real thing, and thats what my thread is all about.

try listening to The Goon Show (hundreds of episodes of varying awesomeness) or watching Alan Partridge to see real british comedy gold


troll breakdown:
1. creating a deception ("You have toilet paper on your back")
2. hiding the deception (Its hard to check your back to see if someone is stuck there)
3. invoking a reaction (Embarrassment that toilet paper is there)
4. hiding the deceiver (You can be long gone before the target can confront you again, or the target has walked away, or the target assumes the paper has come off at some point, etc etc etc)



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