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well, as someone whose brother had been addicted to meth (twice, 1 relapse, but he has been clean for 2 years now) and been in a PLETHORA of shit (he almost went to jail for life, gang-related activities), i can tell you that the ONLY way you're going to quit is if YOU want to quit.
what's a good reason to quit? well the obvious reasons are most likely the stupidest ones. what it does to your body, what other people think of you, etc etc etc. i highly doubt you actually care about those reasons. life is not always an easy ride, and many people will get into drug use during a shitty time of their life, OR when they are having an okay time but are having a hard time realizing what they actually want to do with themselves.
try to find something you enjoy doing and stick to it. be it a hobby, or whatever, for the time being it should make you not think about drugs.
you should probably get a sponsor.
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It takes courage to tell the truth to those closest to you, but it's worth it. Be as honest with yourself and with them as possible. Don't strip them and yourself of the chance to help you. Honesty brings catharsis and renewed opportunities for forgiveness.
Addiction feeds on secrecy and isolation. Starve it.
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Go to NA . My fiance has been clean 7 years and still goes. You should be around people that know what you're going through. A very high percentage of people do not make it clean. You are probably just going to spiral down till you die. But if there is one way to get clean it's to go to NA meetings every single day and keep going no matter what. I personally know at least 10 people that have 3+ years clean and it's a tough road. http://www.na.org/
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You cannot quit heroin on your own. You need help, you need to go somewhere you can learn how to be clean, the fact you keep relapsing is clear proof you don't know how to quit.
If your mom can help you to get Into rehab, jump at it. For it is very likely it's the only real chance you will have to get clean. Don't delude yourself into thinking you can just start using will power to overcome one of the most addictive substances there is. The addiction in you is just saying that so you don't have to get real help and can keep using.
As you can tell no one here is an expert, if you want to quit you need help mostly from people who have quit.
I hope this doesn't sound judgmental, addiction is hard, I hope you can get through 
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My experiences of addiction arent really that abnormal, I was a smoker for a while and I lived with some heavy stoners and got addicted to spliffs (weed + tobacco), these days I have a vaporizer and I get stoned on occasion minus tobacco, I know what addiction feels like and im not addicted to that.
For me, finally quitting was me acknowledging the likelihood of withdrawal and relapse and acknowledging that even 1 of something is back to square one, and I have to start quitting again immediately.
After weeks of fucking around with that I got so sick of the cycle that I just stopped, my previous temptations were all gone. Granted after a while there was that niggling if someone rolled a spliff or whatever but that's where you have to keep your guard up, you fell into it once, you can easily do it again after quitting.
I also found taking up things you cant do on drugs is a great way of helping you kill time, as drugs are just a way of killing time when you're bored.
Maybe take up climbing (my main 'physical activity'), play more Sc2 and maybe get a little stoned in the evenings if you find the urge to do anything more powerful than you can deal with, spend your days in university working in the library instead of at home. Just get yourself out of situations where you're with drug friends, or by yourself in your own home, peer pressure or boredom will put you in difficult territory.
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i do recall a "as me anything about drugs" thread a few weeks back, there were some people who tried heroin and managed to fight their way back out. Might be helpful to PM them and get some "how did you do it" stories/strats?
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Pick up a physical activity like running or working out. Not only will all the exercise keep you busy, but it will start feeding your brain with natural drugs, not to mention you will be getting in shape. Running/working out will be HARD at first, most likely, but keep at it, and push through the inital pain. Once you get decently in shape, a nice hard 5 mile run is about as good of a high as you can get naturally, and it's amazing for you.
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I am really looking for someone with a heroin addiction to talk to.
Please add me on AIM:GbSkillgasm
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Find a medic that can help you, a psychiatrist that is specialist at those things ll help a lot, but after all, all come to you selfcontrol and bla bla, its hard, but just you can do it.
Hope best luck for you
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I dont think you can get any real help through an internet forum so i would advise you to seek profesional help.
At least your recognize the fact this is unhealthy path you are on.
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This is a waste of a blog imo.
You get addicted to something and then you beg for people to help you get out of it?
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the TLHF 2012 is just starting
i urge you to start reading and pick it up
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=63
i was alcoholic / in a similar situation to you , and TLHF helped me a LOT to gradually break out of this. now i havent drank alcohol for 15? weeks. so long that ive lost count.......... i didnt even have the urge to drink (make excuses to drink) over christmas
you need to stop because you will LOATHE yourself for years and years to come and possibly develop chronic perpetual anxiety . self-loathing means no1 will like you or be attracted to you
read the introductory threads in TLHF and stick your foot in the water. it really did work for me (even if it took me 2+ years to get to where i am now - and yes i wasted another £5000+ or whatever attempting and failing university again, like you)
if you can get on the Starting Strength gym routine before school then your life might very rapidly change for the better.
you can read my blog on Anxiety & Procrastination here
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=279491
there are some tips to distract and inspire yourself, tho i would like if more people would comment/add to it
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On December 28 2011 22:06 danmooj1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 21:52 Probe1 wrote:
None of the shit that has been posted really helps. Well I mean methadones alright but really you're getting addicted to the next step down instead of not doing drugs. Methadone is for withdrawal.
You have to stop. I know it's hard. I didn't respond to your PM because, honestly, I was already talking about drugs with a few other people and it made me really miss oxy. So I looked after myself by not responding to you. (That was rude, sorry)
You have to stop. There's no secret or book to buy. Find something new, become obsessed with it. If it's meditation then it's meditation or if it's starcraft 2 then it's starcraft 2. Find something. Become obsessed. Every time you want to use do it instead.
In a few months it will be easier to not do it without making yourself busy. I know this is kinda shitty advice//everyone is different but you have to replace h with something else. Like posting on TL or playing starcraft or get a intense job or run for 30 miles. Find something. It doesn't have to be special. Do it every time you think about using. Eventually you think about using less. It never really goes away. But it does fade. No need to apologize, I completely understand. I wish I can get obsessed with something but it's really hard for me to enjoy anything without drugs. I've been looking for a new hobby for a while now but I can't "get into" anything. I'm actually starting to worry my brains kinda fucked up for good, like my dopamine receptors are worn out or something. I have no motivation at all and I can't really enjoy anything sober. If anyone has an interesting hobby they want to share, that would be helpful too.
try to take up music, its the best that i can think of...it isnt for everyone but you never know and it might work for you...the only problem would be the motivation to learn how to play :/ which for a recovering addict is quite difficult...i had a teacher once who recovered through the guitar...instead of getting high he would play the guitar, gradually he got better and better since he was playing constantly when he would normally have gotten high...one of the greatest guitarists ive ever met...he had genuine talent that he wouldnt have learned about had he not attempted to recover through music
also imo music = one of the best natural highs
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So I'm a heroin/prescription drug addict, I want you guys to help me stop.
There is your problem. You are kind of hoping for a solution or for someone to quit for you, but it's your life and your body that has to do it. You've listed all the stakes, it's not like you need someone to tell you why it's important.
Set your goals, make them important to you (not just becoming less of a burden to others) and create plans and contingency plans and everything you need to do to make sure your goal happens. It isn't complicated when you think of it that way, it just takes some work and genuine effort. If you get bored of it or feel it isn't important anymore, then of course you will go back to drugs. Keep that in mind and think of ways to make sure you don't get bored of it or stop thinking it is important (and make sure those are ways that you can control, not that you have to rely on).
gogo glgl. Every suggestion like "play guitar" or "find something to be passionate about" is just a form of the above. It can really be just about anything.
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imo youre looking for someone to drag you into salvation (see thread title)
hence imo going to rehab centre really would be the best and quickest thing for you
youve tried to quit. you cant. YOU CANT DO IT. youve tried and you cant do it. how many fucking times are you gonna keep trying the same thing and failing when you already know you cant do it?
tell your mom that you had a relapse (if she asks then tell her you done it only once / one hit / whatever its called) and you immediately want to go into rehab before school.
just fucking do it before you lose your chance. or youll end up like me , another 2 years of torturing yourself.
if you can go into rehab without telling your mom then maybe do that. but i think your mom would feel very positive about you admitting this to her and accepting her offer finally.
and i think you know this, and you know i know it. get up right now , call her / book an appointment / get on the bus to a clinic.
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Since a lot of people are giving advice without really having any real understanding of your situation, i might as well chime in myself.
My suggestion is a scare tactic. Go to the part of town (where ever that might be) where the addicts and homeless hang out, and stay there for a day. Talk to the people, hear their stories, try to search for why they ended up there. My guess is that most of the couldn't fight their addiction and/or cope with life without their stimulant. And having stayed there for a day, ask yourself "Is this really the life i want for myself? Because they way things are headed there's certainly a good chance i might."
I googled some images from my hometown (Oslo) for dramatic effect. Nobody want to end up in the streets. Every person in those pictures told themselves "Im not gonna end up there", but reality is harsh. If you actually go trough with my suggestion it might be a really profound experience. Remember to bring beer/alcohol as a peace token.
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Im sorry to hear your mother is going trough a lot of shit. I have a suggestion to cheer her up. I take it NA are the same as AA, in the way they give tokens for given periods of sustaining from use. When you get your 2 weeks from withdrawal token, mail it to her and tell that you're trying and you'll contact her when you're ready. Make it your solitary purpose in life to send her those tokens every time you get one (and if you cheat you're a heartless bastard, giving your mother such hopes). If you fall back into addiction, you bite the fucking bullet and try gettin the first token again asap. Now your mother has something to look forward to even though everything seems shitty and you've made a mechanism to abstain. If i were in that situation, i couldnt picture a better gift to send my mother.
my two cents.
Peace out and best of luck
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I think you should really try to get some help. If your mom wanted to send you to rehab, just go. It's hard to say it, but I think in these situations one cannot think they're in control of their life anymore.
Other people recommended NA, I also think it's a good choice. It really helped a friend of mine in the past.
You're asking us to convince you to stop, but you seem to have already convinced yourself you must stop. What you need is help in doing it. Good luck
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On December 29 2011 01:08 Gogleion wrote:
This is a waste of a blog imo.
You get addicted to something and then you beg for people to help you get out of it?
the guys asking for help, no need to be a dick.
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There are multiple steps, and goals to achieve.
First, it seems that your social life is destroyed by your addiction and that you have no money anymore.
So a good first step is to medicalize yourself, I don't know how it work in the US, but in France you can go to see a simple doctor and get stuff like subutex prescribed to you. (subutex is buprenorphine, which is basically morphine, it's just a pill to take each day)
If you do that, that'll at least solve your money and social problems, and then you'll be able to have new perspectives and to envisage to stop using.
That kind of treatment works very well, even if you stay addict at something, at least you're doing it in a legalized, non money hungry, and less health destroying fashion, which will solves a lot of your problems, which is a good start.
Then, when you'll have a normal life, you'll be able to start the being clean goal, which can be long, but one step at a time. Being able to live without the "how/when I'll have my next dose ?" is a very important thing to do, and medical treatments are good for that.
PS : people saying he should run, or find a focus, are giving advice that could work, but that will never work with an addict. I'm pretty certain he's writing this because he can't buy heroin, so he's full of good resolutions, which will disappear with the next dose. The best action is, imo, to replace those expensive doses with a legal drug first, at least that'll take care of all the social problems (money, friends, addict behavior). Only then you'll be able to have projects, until then you're just going down and down and down until you'll have nothing left.
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Im telling you right now, no matter what you say about quitting on your own, you will never be able to do it. There is a reason heroin is the most powerfully addictive drug on the market. Telling yourself that you don't need rehab is absurd. You may be able to quit for a few weeks here and there, but I guarantee you without going and getting real help to not only deal with the addiction itself, but also all the reasons that lead you to become addicted to heroin, you will NOT succeed.
Please, just take a few days and look into rehab centres. Tell your mom you have relapsed, and have her enroll you into one of those centres ASAP. You are only delaying things, and definitely not fixing them. I have an uncle on my fathers side of the family who was heavily addicted to heroin among other drugs, and I have seen that really, there is no guaranteed way to quit on your own. All it really leads to is relapsing over and over, combined with constant lies about getting clean , or being clean etc.
I mean, look at your situation right now. You are now lieing to your friends about being clean. You are teetering on the border of losing every friend you still got, because all you are doing is lieing to them. You are also lieing to your family, who is really the only support structure you have in life. Eventually everyone will be pushed away from you, and then when you really want help, and be willing to goto rehab, there wont be anyone around you to care......if your still alive then that is.
PLEASE LOOK INTO GETTING PROFESSIONAL HELP!!!
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