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K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
December 23 2011 21:59 GMT
#21
I'd put Hero and JYP before Huk and Naniwa. Hero has been really consistent in foreign tournaments which you can't really say the same for Huk. Naniwa showed some amazing play but not sure if it'll last.

JYP is just really really good, even if his PvT is meh. Also, something to take into account is that he played PvT during a time where 1-1-1 was dominate and prepatch EMP.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 23 2011 23:08 GMT
#22
Well, you know that part where I said I would get them done unless I died or something?

I lied.

I'll do the rest tomorrow, I promise. And Seeker, I'm holding you to the Terran one.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 23:16:43
December 23 2011 23:15 GMT
#23
On December 24 2011 06:59 K3Nyy wrote:
I'd put Hero and JYP before Huk and Naniwa. Hero has been really consistent in foreign tournaments which you can't really say the same for Huk. Naniwa showed some amazing play but not sure if it'll last.

JYP is just really really good, even if his PvT is meh. Also, something to take into account is that he played PvT during a time where 1-1-1 was dominate and prepatch EMP.


Ya, Nani and Huk should definitely be below JYP and Hero, though Huk and Nani should be on the list. Just not that high up.

Hero is easily the best player on his team (well, maybe not Zenio, but he's better than huk for sure).
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
December 23 2011 23:27 GMT
#24
HerO is my favourite Protoss, and I think he is also the best Protoss right now.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 00:02:37
December 24 2011 00:01 GMT
#25
One of the best men for a Toss power rank.

The first line does disservice to yourself or atleast MC. MC's been clearly the most dominant and consistent protoss out there. He looked very impressive in the Blizzard cup run with the exception of that.... that thing on Calm before the storm. I think it's worthwhile to mention how map dependent PvZ might seem to be as Calm before the storm should be a win for MC 9/10 times while dual site and crossfire are generally difficult (but not as difficult as they used to be) maps to succeed on. Without that botch MC would have been competitive going into the finals as pros seemed to have been playing up his return (combined with a month of tvp ineptitude).

Bold very bold with Oz. I suppose the GSL deserves it's credit but we have seen streaks of results from other tosses (Sage, Puzzle, Tassadar in order of promise) while returning ot the average mediocrity. His loss to Jijjaki was more self destruction than anything (though Jjijak does cool things).

Now with regards to the foreign hopes.... I really want to say that Nani deserves berth above huk (and I wish I could say puzzle but lack of GSL experience keeps you out of the top 3) but I'm not sure if I can justify that. I want to say that Nani looks more consistent and stable than Huk as well as in better form in the past months. Frankly I think it's more of an issue that Huk's form has looked so poor in the recent months. argh. Suppose I have to concede that one to you.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 24 2011 00:08 GMT
#26
On December 24 2011 08:15 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 06:59 K3Nyy wrote:
I'd put Hero and JYP before Huk and Naniwa. Hero has been really consistent in foreign tournaments which you can't really say the same for Huk. Naniwa showed some amazing play but not sure if it'll last.

JYP is just really really good, even if his PvT is meh. Also, something to take into account is that he played PvT during a time where 1-1-1 was dominate and prepatch EMP.


Ya, Nani and Huk should definitely be below JYP and Hero, though Huk and Nani should be on the list. Just not that high up.

Hero is easily the best player on his team (well, maybe not Zenio, but he's better than huk for sure).

What has JYP done? He has good PvZ, but his PvT is tteeeeeerrrririiiibbbblee. Naniwa is better than him, for sure. Good list, btw.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 24 2011 00:09 GMT
#27
On December 24 2011 04:04 Bippzy wrote:
I've always wanted to say this so ill say it here:

MC-The napoleon bonaparte protoss.
Toss players: we dont have any good toss, we need some(plural)
Toss players: oh shit theres MC we only need him! He's our emperor! Our boss toss!
MC terrorizes all of euro-ahem i mean the GSL for a while and wins two GSL's nut then gets exiled to an islan- i mean beaten out of the GSL.
MC gets out of islan- i mean uh into the Gsl through MLg and had his 100 day reign before he falls again..

Right now, we're on his 100 day reign, and im just waiting for him to fall permanently, or to stop being a metaphor for napoleon bonaparte.

Very, very good, sir.
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RGnt
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland100 Posts
December 24 2011 00:30 GMT
#28
I am MC fan boy my self but I wouldn't stick it 1st in that list. And IMO it requires bit more Genius in there! As of right now, boss toss should be under our dear foreigner tosses (Okey that sounds wrong to me ). Just my 2 cents! Good job anyways ^^'
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double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
December 24 2011 01:18 GMT
#29
On December 24 2011 01:48 Predguin wrote:
Hell yeah, I'm so happy that people are starting to notice Oz. He's a total beast and I think he deserves the recognition. His Liquipedia page is pretty chock-full with info and pictures due partly to my wonky fanboy meddling and other people's much more refined additions.

I think HerO's quickly on the rise, though we have to wait to see. (Though his game against Luvsic earlier was great, though Luvsic kind of took too long to do um, anything). HuK and NaniWa would be good choices too but they're both a bit unstable.

Good job with the ranking!


Oz's ability is there and there is no doubt about that. The reason why ppl tend to kind of forget him I think is becoz he does not have as many oppotunities as other tosses here to showcase his skills in foreign events.
About Hero's game against Luvsic, do not get me wrong, I do believe Hero has great PvZ. However, Luvsic made lots of mistakes in the game and that contribute to the game and made Hero look good in the game. I am sure top zerg players like DRG and Stephano would at least not making that many mistakes.
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
December 24 2011 01:20 GMT
#30
On December 24 2011 01:53 Bibbit wrote:
JYP never gets enough respect imo. T_T

Still, I just about agree. Only thing for me is I'd stick JYP over Puzzle.


He just needs better PvT before we put him here I guess. It is kind of wired, JYP's micro in pvp and pvz is sick good. But not in his pvt. I know they are different mu, but after all it is just micro.
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
December 24 2011 01:23 GMT
#31
On December 24 2011 03:04 Spray wrote:
On top of Oz being a boss, he is hilarious when hes drunk...


really? How can u know that??/
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 02:52:49
December 24 2011 02:51 GMT
#32
Meh, puzzle only JUST got to a ro8 last season while every season before he got knocked out of the ro32 and his few foreign tourny's have been underwhelming for a "top 3 protoss". I think he needs to do more before he can prove whether it was a fluke or not. Agreed with Oz, but I also think Hero should be ahead of Huk right now. Even though dreamhack and NASL aren't as prestigious, he made a finals and won them in a row.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 24 2011 11:57 GMT
#33
OK, Power Rank fully updated to Top 10!

Please post criticisms, opinions and remember to rate the article!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 12:15:12
December 24 2011 12:12 GMT
#34
Still honestly don't know how you can justify Huk at #4 with his showings these past few months. He won Orlando through PvPs and he's the leading example of how volatile PvP can be when he ended up losing to Elfi and Hasuobs. His last like 4 tournaments have been outside top 15 range performances.

I also like how you think Hero is overrated and then say mana is the next protoss god. It's obvious Mana's potential is not nearly as high as Hero's is. His play is just too slow and defensive, and he ended up losing to Morrow 3-0 in NASL. It's one thing to praise someone's achievements (over the course of like what, 6 months here?) and then completely ignore the failures.
sebsejr
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
213 Posts
December 24 2011 13:53 GMT
#35
wauw very well written! love your choises! your awesome!

would probably fit JYP and Genius in there though. Maybe instead of MaNa and Sage? or MaNa and Parting. Other than that, i love the list! <3
can u do one for Terran and Zerg aswell? would love that!
RGnt
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland100 Posts
December 24 2011 15:47 GMT
#36
On December 24 2011 10:23 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 03:04 Spray wrote:
On top of Oz being a boss, he is hilarious when hes drunk...


really? How can u know that??/



There's where he "coaches" desRow while drunken
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
December 24 2011 16:27 GMT
#37
Well written. You defend your choices well even though they're not the particular choices I would make. Specifically I would put Sage lower and JYP higher solely based on recent results. I'd also add a Close But No Cigar(CNBC) section.
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rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 17:03:44
December 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#38
I can't agree with how the players were placed- not that I had different players in mind, but theres a handfull of toss who take turns stealing the spot light. There hasn't really been a consistent top protoss that dominate like MVP/Nestea as you said. Still, it was a good read, and looked like you have a lot of research/games going into it. You should do more of these.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 24 2011 17:23 GMT
#39
On December 25 2011 01:27 NrGmonk wrote:
Well written. You defend your choices well even though they're not the particular choices I would make. Specifically I would put Sage lower and JYP higher solely based on recent results. I'd also add a Close But No Cigar(CNBC) section.


Thanks. I was thinking of putting an Honourable Mention in there, but realised that if I started doing that I'd probably end up ranting on even more, and it looked like it was breaching the point of digestibility anyway.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
December 24 2011 17:35 GMT
#40
Number 2-10 should also be MC.
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