EPTNana Mizuki Live Castle 2011, King’s Night - Page 2
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mtvacuum
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Socratics101
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Anyways, it awesome to see that there were people from TL @ Live Castle, but kind of tragic too. There was an overseas fans gathering that numbered almost 40 people, and we would have loved to have you join us too. :/ A bit surprised you didn't see a huge group of random assorted gaijin running around, we even got stopped by an NHK producer asking to film a short group interview for the Live Castle special that should be airing on her birthday (1/21). Adding tragedy to tragedy, she performed Secret Ambition at Queen's Night, so you missed it by less than 24 hours. D: Either way, glad to hear that you had a great time despite all the challenges you had to get through. I do suggest you (incoming plug of a friend's blog) head over to danie's shopping log in case something similar happens in the future, as she was the one who essentially organized the meet-up this time, and in general is considered the go-to English blog for Nana-related news. Just ignore all the recent AKB ranting. Also @ KazeHydra - RE: Synchrogazer We were too busy trying to figure out how exactly to otagei to the song since it's like a conglomeration of three different songs, so everyone I was talking to about it didn't really remember much aside from the fact they liked it and thought it was kind of amazing that Nana pulled it off so well. Having had time to loop it at least 100 times now, I'd have to say I definitely don't remember the instrumentals being that powerful. But again, disclaimer of the fact that it was the first time hearing it for most of us and trying to figure out the rhythm really took most of our concentration from the song itself (well in my case, at least). I'm sure when she next performs we'll be able to more accurately judge. | ||
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KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
On December 08 2011 10:10 Socratics101 wrote: So THIS is the post that finally got me to register here. Hopefully some of you know who I am, if not, I'm the guy who introduced KawaiiRice to Nana. Anyways, it awesome to see that there were people from TL @ Live Castle, but kind of tragic too. There was an overseas fans gathering that numbered almost 40 people, and we would have loved to have you join us too. :/ A bit surprised you didn't see a huge group of random assorted gaijin running around, we even got stopped by an NHK producer asking to film a short group interview for the Live Castle special that should be airing on her birthday (1/21). Adding tragedy to tragedy, she performed Secret Ambition at Queen's Night, so you missed it by less than 24 hours. D: Either way, glad to hear that you had a great time despite all the challenges you had to get through. I do suggest you (incoming plug of a friend's blog) head over to danie's shopping log in case something similar happens in the future, as she was the one who essentially organized the meet-up this time, and in general is considered the go-to English blog for Nana-related news. Just ignore all the recent AKB ranting. Hi Socratics! Don't know if you remember me haha. I also support the  edit: ah I see. I hope the sound is like that because of it being a leaked video. Well, I'm sure we can get judge it fairly well after it comes out next month. | ||
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Socratics101
United States5 Posts
On December 08 2011 10:33 KazeHydra wrote: Hi Socratics! Don't know if you remember me haha. I also support the edit: ah I see. I hope the sound is like that because of it being a leaked video. Well, I'm sure we can get judge it fairly well after it comes out next month. Of course I remember you! Don't remember from where exactly (orz), but I definitely recognize your name. It's a shame you decided not to, it was an awesome experience. Well, aside from the goods line. Pouring rain and wind for 6 hours straight...almost wasn't worth it, because I thought it killed my camera (nothing a blow dryer can't fix though). Karaoke after the lives was sweet, although it's still left me hoarse and people asking if I'm sick. As a guy I am ashamed, as most foreign hardcore Nana fans are females. Even all the main people who helped work on the overseas fan photobook were girls... <_< In any case, I'm planning on uploading some of the pictures I took somewhere, and I'll make sure to link it here too for anyone who is interested in seeing other pictures! (wasn't quite as naughty as Nagisama was, only took pictures inside the dome before, not during the live) | ||
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KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
Lol yeah Nana having a ton of female fans can be weird; I can't even imagine it when you're out karaoke-ing with them o.o I was in the fan photobook though! The loner from UCSD holding a live grace dvd if you saw haha. Kind of wish I could've seen the final product, but I'm too embarrassed to at the same time. Look forward to your pics ^_^ | ||
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Socratics101
United States5 Posts
You've managed to one-up me still though, I WENT to Live Grace, and I still don't own it...didn't bring enough extra to even buy it when I was there orz. Had to borrow from a friend to even get Museum II, lol. And karaoke with a bunch of girls isn't too bad. I got to hear like, everything. Ika musume's OP, HeartCatch Precure's ED, lots of Yukarin and Momo-i songs, all otherwise impossible if you were going with a sausagefest...although something like SKILL probably wasn't quite as epic as it could have been. And lastly, the pictures are here! I didn't think to take pictures of the inside, but I still got some pictures of the outside, so that's something. :/ | ||
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Entropic
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BTW Nana looks sick in the King get-up with the armor and all. | ||
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KazeHydra
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bBCTG.png) On December 08 2011 14:49 Entropic wrote: I dont even understand how Nana has female fans haha, just feels off to me. Nice pictures though! BTW Nana looks sick in the King get-up with the armor and all. I'll quote Necrophantasia on this because I think he did a good job explaining some of the main reasons why Nana tends to have mostly female fans. The reason lies in the way Nana Mizuki is marketed. If you look at how she appears in media, she looks like a beautiful, mature, songstress (uta-hime). Girls associate with that and go, ahh how wonderful, I want to be like that. And so Japanese females dig her quite a bit. Her songs are also not the dime a dozen commodity idol songs you hear all the time. She actually has the ability to sing! And her appearance at mainstream events such as the end of year Red-White concert has moved her beyond the anime audience and into the main stream. Also, she is not marketed like an idol. She doesn't rely on her sexiness. She doesn't do gravure (at least as far as I know), she doesn't dress provocatively (she's no Koda Kumi), She doesn't make herself a commodity (like those AKB48 idols). So with a super conservative image she gives a lot of people here the impression that she's some refined, high class, songstress, rather than some cheapo commodity. And I think it's the reason why she's popular [with females]. @Socratics: haha I never actually read the forums that much, so I didn't know it was like that..silly Aya fans. Live Grace is actually the best Nana item I currently own. It was actually affordable (well...compared to her usual dvds which are double the price for twice the content) and when I saw first press came with a poster, I couldn't resist. But then I couldn't afford Museum II =/ Thanks for the pictures! Even the non-Nana pics are nice to see; I really want to go to Japan one day for a bunch of reasons, though of course Nana is #1. I'm thinking either this summer or the one after, I'll make my way there. | ||
Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On December 08 2011 10:10 Socratics101 wrote: So THIS is the post that finally got me to register here. Hopefully some of you know who I am, if not, I'm the guy who introduced KawaiiRice to Nana. Anyways, it awesome to see that there were people from TL @ Live Castle, but kind of tragic too. There was an overseas fans gathering that numbered almost 40 people, and we would have loved to have you join us too. :/ A bit surprised you didn't see a huge group of random assorted gaijin running around, we even got stopped by an NHK producer asking to film a short group interview for the Live Castle special that should be airing on her birthday (1/21). Adding tragedy to tragedy, she performed Secret Ambition at Queen's Night, so you missed it by less than 24 hours. D: Either way, glad to hear that you had a great time despite all the challenges you had to get through. I do suggest you (incoming plug of a friend's blog) head over to danie's shopping log in case something similar happens in the future, as she was the one who essentially organized the meet-up this time, and in general is considered the go-to English blog for Nana-related news. Just ignore all the recent AKB ranting. Also @ KazeHydra - RE: Synchrogazer We were too busy trying to figure out how exactly to otagei to the song since it's like a conglomeration of three different songs, so everyone I was talking to about it didn't really remember much aside from the fact they liked it and thought it was kind of amazing that Nana pulled it off so well. Having had time to loop it at least 100 times now, I'd have to say I definitely don't remember the instrumentals being that powerful. But again, disclaimer of the fact that it was the first time hearing it for most of us and trying to figure out the rhythm really took most of our concentration from the song itself (well in my case, at least). I'm sure when she next performs we'll be able to more accurately judge. Once I got to my seat at Tokyo Dome, I did get up once to walk around inside the stadium to see if I could get any orange glow sticks and saw at most 2-3 gaijin walking around but that was about it. I didn't actually know there was an overseas fan gathering, as I mentioned, I did everything pretty last minute. They probably wouldn't have noticed me though haha, I'm Chinese so I would've blended in with the rest of the Japanese fans unless someone talked to me. I would've loved to have joined you guys though if I knew of it =(. I actually ran into that blog when I began searching for where to buy tickets. But the offer was long gone since it was for up til end of August I think, so I just continued looking. On December 08 2011 15:34 KazeHydra wrote: Had to resist opening this thread for awhile to maintain perfection as long as possible. That's awesome haha. | ||
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Socratics101
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Happy New Year, etc. Magnitude 7 earthquake hitting Japan, only Nana fans could take that and make it into a joke (M7 = Mizuki Nana /trolololol) Anyways, as great as Nagisama's report was, I was thinking some of the more informed Nana fans here (no offense Nagisama) might have liked a more in-depth report, albeit a few weeks late (hell even I would). One of the people in the group of overseas fans (more might have done, unfortunately haven't really kept in touch with most of them due to me being anti-social and not using Twitter/Facebook) actually has begun writing song-by-song impressions of her experience during the lives. Her Queen's Night report is here. I'm sure the King's Night will follow shortly. To reply to some things that I kind of left unanswered in a wall of text because I am a long-winded, lazy bastard: @KazeHydra - Visiting Japan is something you should totally do. It's made me certain that I'm going to try to live in a city in the future, with GOOD public transport (ie subway), not shitty buses. Plus it's pretty nice to never have your stuff stolen - one of the guys in the group forgot his camera at a station while tying his shoelaces, and afterwards, found it in the same place - nobody had touched it in the hour he had been away. There's certainly things to be said about the costs of living and the fact social relations are arguably all skin-deep, but the pros definitely outweigh the cons. (also I was talking about them being fans of Ayumi Hamasaki, not silly Aya Hirano, pretty sure she doesn't have fans at all anymore) And I will warn you if you do end up going, expect to spend much, MUCH more than you were planning on. Akiba is...not a healthy place for you (or your wallet) to be for very long. Also on your quote from Necrophantasia in response to Entropic's question about female Nana fans - liking her for being a "refined songstress"? I suppose a portion are drawn in initially by that, sure. Although I'm very curious what image this year's Kouhaku outfit is supposed to project...anywho, from various online exchanges and things I've experienced, most (foreign, although I suspect it might be true for Japanese as well) female Nana fans seem to be just selectively bi for her. It was kind of amusing seeing most of the girls stare more voraciously at her latest Friday shoot than I was (Friday's a weekly magazine which is like People, but with gravure/softcore porn - don't worry, Nana's pictures are very tasteful, mostly just her staring coyly at the camera in a less-than-normal amount of clothing). Which is fine with me. I'd surmise it to be something of a GAR effect/mancrush that some guys have for Archer or Kamina, to make it something more relateable. @Nagisama - I definitely remember seeing a few booths outside of the dome and probably inside as well that were selling glowsticks, but I don't know if you would have bought them even if you had found them - I believe they were 500 yen a pop (~$6.50, when you can get a bit lower-quality ones from glowstick sites for ~$1 each). And you DID know about her blog? You should have asked anyway, I think there were a few late comers who she still helped and ended up joining the rest of us, telling them how to get tickets and such. Pretty much any fan was welcome, since there was no way Nana was going to fill up the venue by being picky, haha. But I guess there's no point in talking at great length about the past, just chalk it up to us guys being stubborn about asking a lady for help when we don't know what to do, am I right?  Lastly, if anyone made it through all that text, and wants to (for some reason) just talk about Nana/animu/fetishe-wat/weeaboo things (I'm far too lazy to join TL's animu thread, sadly), feel free to PM me and we can share contact details. So ronery - KawaiiRice isn't as big a fan as you'd think (zomg blasphemy), and time zones (how do they work) make it almost impossible to talk with the few other "enthusiasts" I've gotten to know, due to aforementioned hating social networking. D: | ||
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On January 01 2012 20:29 Socratics101 wrote: Hurray for semi-necro (wall of text) posts! Happy New Year, etc. Magnitude 7 earthquake hitting Japan, only Nana fans could take that and make it into a joke (M7 = Mizuki Nana /trolololol) Anyways, as great as Nagisama's report was, I was thinking some of the more informed Nana fans here (no offense Nagisama) might have liked a more in-depth report, albeit a few weeks late (hell even I would). One of the people in the group of overseas fans (more might have done, unfortunately haven't really kept in touch with most of them due to me being anti-social and not using Twitter/Facebook) actually has begun writing song-by-song impressions of her experience during the lives. Her Queen's Night report is here. I'm sure the King's Night will follow shortly. To reply to some things that I kind of left unanswered in a wall of text because I am a long-winded, lazy bastard: @KazeHydra - Visiting Japan is something you should totally do. It's made me certain that I'm going to try to live in a city in the future, with GOOD public transport (ie subway), not shitty buses. Plus it's pretty nice to never have your stuff stolen - one of the guys in the group forgot his camera at a station while tying his shoelaces, and afterwards, found it in the same place - nobody had touched it in the hour he had been away. There's certainly things to be said about the costs of living and the fact social relations are arguably all skin-deep, but the pros definitely outweigh the cons. (also I was talking about them being fans of Ayumi Hamasaki, not silly Aya Hirano, pretty sure she doesn't have fans at all anymore) And I will warn you if you do end up going, expect to spend much, MUCH more than you were planning on. Akiba is...not a healthy place for you (or your wallet) to be for very long. Also on your quote from Necrophantasia in response to Entropic's question about female Nana fans - liking her for being a "refined songstress"? I suppose a portion are drawn in initially by that, sure. Although I'm very curious what image this year's Kouhaku outfit is supposed to project...anywho, from various online exchanges and things I've experienced, most (foreign, although I suspect it might be true for Japanese as well) female Nana fans seem to be just selectively bi for her. It was kind of amusing seeing most of the girls stare more voraciously at her latest Friday shoot than I was (Friday's a weekly magazine which is like People, but with gravure/softcore porn - don't worry, Nana's pictures are very tasteful, mostly just her staring coyly at the camera in a less-than-normal amount of clothing). Which is fine with me. I'd surmise it to be something of a GAR effect/mancrush that some guys have for Archer or Kamina, to make it something more relateable. @Nagisama - I definitely remember seeing a few booths outside of the dome and probably inside as well that were selling glowsticks, but I don't know if you would have bought them even if you had found them - I believe they were 500 yen a pop (~$6.50, when you can get a bit lower-quality ones from glowstick sites for ~$1 each). And you DID know about her blog? You should have asked anyway, I think there were a few late comers who she still helped and ended up joining the rest of us, telling them how to get tickets and such. Pretty much any fan was welcome, since there was no way Nana was going to fill up the venue by being picky, haha. But I guess there's no point in talking at great length about the past, just chalk it up to us guys being stubborn about asking a lady for help when we don't know what to do, am I right? Lastly, if anyone made it through all that text, and wants to (for some reason) just talk about Nana/animu/fetishe-wat/weeaboo things (I'm far too lazy to join TL's animu thread, sadly), feel free to PM me and we can share contact details. So ronery - KawaiiRice isn't as big a fan as you'd think (zomg blasphemy), and time zones (how do they work) make it almost impossible to talk with the few other "enthusiasts" I've gotten to know, due to aforementioned hating social networking. D: No offense taken. I knew from the get go that my post was going to be lacking Maybe it was for the better I didn't find the glow stick stalls, and saved myself some money. But if I did find them at the time, I probably would've went and bought them for sure, regardless of price. I only ran into Danie's blog when I was searching for tickets super last minute. I'm talking Dec 1-3 lol. I didn't actually buy the ticket until Dec 3. I was debating about posting on her blog, but I think the last activity I saw on it was like October or something, so I thought I wouldn't have been able to get a quick enough reply. @KazeHydra RE: Synchrogazer, I just saw the PV for it that Danie posted on her blog and after listening to it just once, I remembered it from King's Night. There was definitely no problem with it being too strong compared to her voice because I remembered her voice being just as equally powerful. It made for a very energetic and powerful song. | ||
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KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
that M7 joke is great lol. Visiting Japan is something I will definitely do eventually, it's just a matter of time and money x.x I always mix up Ayu and Aya ugh, probably because I have a history of arguing with Aya fans. That was a awhile ago though and I learned to just ignore them and like you said, I don't think there's any left now. But yeah, I'll make sure to save up my money in preparation. I'm usually pretty good at resisting impulse buying but if anything can make holes in my wallet, it'll be Akiba. Anyway, I'll PM you my info. I think we're same timezone? I somehow recall that you're same as Kawaii unless I'm wrong. | ||
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