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acrimoneyius

United States983 Posts

December 03 2011 12:17 GMT

#41

On December 03 2011 05:16 Barrin wrote:

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Too true. Fuck. Can't help it D: 95% of the time I'm either completely serious or not serious in the slightest. I try really hard to change this but I can't help but feel (read: know) that I was (not purposely) brought up like this. It's kinda ingrained in me, trust me I don't like it.

A big part of me being so serious (it's also me being "intellectual") comes from the fact that most things that irritate me are derived mostly from stupidity. I have this thing where I utterly refuse to contribute to irritating stupidity (playful trolling is different), which kinda leads me to being too serious. But I think too many people in this world aren't serious enough :D

I try my best not to show it and this is the first time I'm openly admitting it, but much like many other people get "ladder anxiety" I get "posting anxiety". Seriously, lol. I have been considering making a thread/blog questioning if other people feel the same. Well I mean, I really only get it when I make big thread OP's. That dude who said 'tldr' on the first page probably would have a heart attack clicking on any of these links of my OP's:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137143
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166707
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=170129
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177832
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=178253
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215186
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271257
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271256
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273780
(yes, I have more, these are my best).

I know of this posting anxiety you speak of. Often times I'll reword something several times, only to retract my desire of posting at all. It's hard to find a balance between the relevance of the written/spoken word vs the desire to be heard.

Randomaccount#77123

United States5003 Posts

December 03 2011 15:13 GMT

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Vansetsu

United States1454 Posts

December 03 2011 15:21 GMT

#43

I get something similar to posting anxiety, but it's more like... laziness?? I start to make a great point, then I realize one of a few things:

1. Someone or a good amount of people are going to have a stupid counter-argument, miss the point, get half the point, get a different point out of context, make up their own point to argue with out of frustration with one small part of my point.

2. The original point isn't worth fighting that much for.

3. The audience won't even appreciate the insight my point brings.

4. If I am going to bother to make a point, I'd want to do a nice job and be able to put the effort needed to make it understood and/or discussable.

6. When I think about it and get past the above problems, sometimes I realize my point is just a fancy over-worded way of stating that I have different principles at the heart of the original point, but since principle is rarely ever seen as the heart of the argument, any argument that attempts to argue otherwise to the original point just seems like a giant waste of time.
-Basically it's just a lot of arguing that breaks down into the realization that we have different values or principles.

So... I usually keep my advice/ideas simple or solid, unless I feel like I am ready for a debate should the need arise

7. And then the above prompts me to almost rant or discuss bigger or other topics relative but unrelated, discouraging me more so due to the amount of writing involved or the fact that maybe I would be better spent putting that effort into a more relevant post on an different related topic. Maybe this post is a good example.

If you think people are worried about contributing to a discussion, I would probably just leave a lot of inquisitive open endings/?'s on your replies. That just seems more inviting to me. Also, if your a really cynical poster, that attitude will probably scare people away as well. Condescending or looking-for-a-fight type of posts probably won't work out too well for you as well, but that's just common sense I guess. Being neutral and objective is usually the safest way to garner honest and thought out omissions out of a discussion in my opinion. Explaining yourself, and showing that you understood what has been explained to you is pretty helpful too, again, more common sense (at least to me). Hope some of that helps.

StarStruck

25339 Posts

December 03 2011 15:42 GMT

#44

On December 03 2011 03:27 Dispersion wrote:

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QFT, the only people I'd be careful about arguing with are IdrA and iNcoNtroL, because one could metaphorically tear my heart out through my eyes, and the other physically could.

This is a public Internet forum, true posters say whatever the fuck they want.

Why the heck anyone would be scared of IdrA let alone iNc is beyond me. Have you met them yet? O;

IdrA poses no threat and iNc is like a cuddly teddy bear, but yeah the first guy got it right.

I wouldn't think much of it to be honest.

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