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On November 21 2011 16:22 Swede wrote:
You're an idiot.
I thought TL.Net encouraged higher posting standards than base insults when someone submits an idea that another user disagrees with. Ive rendered my thoughts in a respectful manner yet I am greeted with this childishness when someone disagrees with me ?
If you lack the intelligences to debate in a coherent manner without the use of vicious insults then I advise you to leave such a thing to your more intellectually gifted peers. There is no love lost between me and you. Just friendly advice 
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So basically you saw a bumper sticker that was designed by an insane person and you were so enraged by its quotation that you had to write a blog about how all women are somehow apart of this ideology and how absurd that 'fact' is?
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On November 21 2011 16:45 SarR wrote:I thought TL.Net encouraged higher posting standards than base insults when someone submits an idea that another user disagrees with. Ive rendered my thoughts in a respectful manner yet I am greeted with this childishness when someone disagrees with me ? If you lack the intelligences to debate in a coherent manner without the use of vicious insults then I advise you to leave such a thing to your more intellectually gifted peers. There is no love lost between me and you. Just friendly advice
First of all your post is completely hypocritical. Don't whinge about me calling you an idiot and then try to sneak through a veiled insult of your own (bolded). Typing it all fancily doesn't make it better. Besides, I couldn't care less if I've insulted you. People with opinions such as yours are almost always impervious to reason anyway. Better to call you an idiot and get out than bother with your silly arguments.
Secondly, your thoughts may have been respectful in the sense you didn't insult anyone on TL, but you sure as hell haven't given women the respect they deserve. Unless you can present empirical evidence that the societies you described were more successful in specific ways, peer reviewed research demonstrating significant differences in intelligence between the average man and woman, or something just as good as those then I can only conclude that your position is based on stereotypes and a desire to be 'superior', or something equally misguided.
And the intelligent people you're talking about don't accept speculation or vague reviews of history. So far that's all you've presented.
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On November 21 2011 18:42 Swede wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 16:45 SarR wrote:On November 21 2011 16:22 Swede wrote:
You're an idiot. I thought TL.Net encouraged higher posting standards than base insults when someone submits an idea that another user disagrees with. Ive rendered my thoughts in a respectful manner yet I am greeted with this childishness when someone disagrees with me ? If you lack the intelligences to debate in a coherent manner without the use of vicious insults then I advise you to leave such a thing to your more intellectually gifted peers. There is no love lost between me and you. Just friendly advice First of all your post is completely hypocritical. Don't whinge about me calling you an idiot and then try to sneak through a veiled insult of your own (bolded). Typing it all fancily doesn't make it better. Besides, I couldn't care less if I've insulted you. People with opinions such as yours are almost always impervious to reason anyway. Better to call you an idiot and get out than bother with your silly arguments. Secondly, your thoughts may have been respectful in the sense you didn't insult anyone on TL, but you sure as hell haven't given women the respect they deserve. Unless you can present empirical evidence that the societies you described were more successful in specific ways, peer reviewed research demonstrating significant differences in intelligence between the average man and woman, or something just as good as those then I can only conclude that your position is based on stereotypes and a desire to be 'superior', or something equally misguided. And the intelligent people you're talking about don't accept speculation or vague reviews of history. So far that's all you've presented.
So my opinions make it ok for you to attack me. Is that what you're implying ? What if I think you're the moron, is it then ok for me to insult you as such ? Would that be allowed here ?
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Yes, you're an idiot.
There's a thread full of this crap and it still hasn't sunk in to your head. Furthermore, your initial argument comes from the same line of stupid as bhindi's and you haven't even attempted to challenge anything Haem has said.
"Society worked just fine this way before" is the exact same oppressive shit every social majority power says when it begins to lose power.
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On November 21 2011 20:15 SarR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 18:42 Swede wrote:On November 21 2011 16:45 SarR wrote:On November 21 2011 16:22 Swede wrote:
You're an idiot. I thought TL.Net encouraged higher posting standards than base insults when someone submits an idea that another user disagrees with. Ive rendered my thoughts in a respectful manner yet I am greeted with this childishness when someone disagrees with me ? If you lack the intelligences to debate in a coherent manner without the use of vicious insults then I advise you to leave such a thing to your more intellectually gifted peers. There is no love lost between me and you. Just friendly advice First of all your post is completely hypocritical. Don't whinge about me calling you an idiot and then try to sneak through a veiled insult of your own (bolded). Typing it all fancily doesn't make it better. Besides, I couldn't care less if I've insulted you. People with opinions such as yours are almost always impervious to reason anyway. Better to call you an idiot and get out than bother with your silly arguments. Secondly, your thoughts may have been respectful in the sense you didn't insult anyone on TL, but you sure as hell haven't given women the respect they deserve. Unless you can present empirical evidence that the societies you described were more successful in specific ways, peer reviewed research demonstrating significant differences in intelligence between the average man and woman, or something just as good as those then I can only conclude that your position is based on stereotypes and a desire to be 'superior', or something equally misguided. And the intelligent people you're talking about don't accept speculation or vague reviews of history. So far that's all you've presented. So my opinions make it ok for you to attack me. Is that what you're implying ? What if I think you're the moron, is it then ok for me to insult you as such ? Would that be allowed here ?
I can't speak for the TL mods on whether it's allowed to insult me on here, but I'm personally okay with it. It's all useless drivel until you provide evidence for your claims (societies with oppressed women being more successful, implied idea that women are of less intelligence), and since respectable studies into intelligence as it relates to gender almost universally conclude that differences in gender intelligence are statistically insignificant I suspect you will have a hard time doing that.
As to societies with oppressed women being more successful, I can't think of any possible way of defending that position, and that's not simply because I don't want to - it's just that the idea that squashing the potential of any group of people can somehow create a more successful society in the long term is basically illogical. Even if just one women of all the billions in the world advances human understanding by the smallest amount as a result of not being oppressed... it's still more than if she weren't given that opportunity. Point is that there is nothing to gain by oppressing women (even if they are 'lesser' like you seem to think). Oppress them and there is next to no chance they achieve greatness, but give them equal opportunity to men and the worst that can happen is they contribute exactly the same as when they were oppressed. If you think that's wrong then explain by what mechanism it could be wrong.
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http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100322-26043.html
(Best english source I could found that quickly, sorry.)
He was found not guilty btw because the accusations were complete bullshit. A famous german feminist was all apeshit against him. He is found not guilty, yet his career is ruined.
There is always a little bit of truth in a rant(Okay, not always, but often.). But you cannot imply because of a few that everyone is like that.
Imho the problem with feminism, or rather that it is still needed, is that our society in general has problems that just result in things like this. Miscommunication, "Miseducation", Massmedia manipulating people in a way huxley described best and other problems do create these situations in which women feel the need to step up for their rights. Rightfully so, mane people are still treating women like "lesser human beings" and all that shit, and this has to stop.
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On November 21 2011 16:52 SuperbWingman wrote:
So basically you saw a bumper sticker that was designed by an insane person and you were so enraged by its quotation that you had to write a blog about how all women are somehow apart of this ideology and how absurd that 'fact' is?
Why does everyone automatically assume it's a bumper sticker? I didn't tell you anything about how big it was, did I now.
It was painted all over the back of the car, which was a mini-buss, an official one. I thought governments were supposed to be neutral in this kind of stuff, so yeah, I do not approve. I was not enraged, I was mad, huge difference (no sarcasm). And you knew that this was a rant, and still you read it and post a question that has been asked before?
People are so stupid...
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On November 19 2011 00:47 mrafaeldie12 wrote:Show nested quote +And I must say it's stupid how women can just accuse someone of raping them if they want to destroy someones reputation/job possibilities. Even if the guy isn't found guilty, she's still managed to keep him from most jobs, wasted his time and wrecked his reputation. ??? Do you have any proof of this? 0/5
Welcome to reality.
Also, the opening post is stupid, these kind of stereotypes matter the least of all the discrimination men are facing.
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