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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 18:35:17
November 18 2011 14:48 GMT
#1
Before I start this rant I would like to state that I am NOT sexist, this is a post to let off some steam about feminists being extremely annoying sometimes

After school today I went to a bus stop where I saw a minibus with this...thing painted on the back:
"Deprimerte kvinner shopper eller spiser, mens deprimerte menn erobrer landområder. Det er en helt forskjellig måte å tenke på!"

which basicly translates into:
"Depressed women shop or eat, while depressed men conquer territory. It is a completely different way of thinking!"

(Keep in mind this is not a direct quote, but it was something like that)

Now, WTF is that all about? I thought some women wanted equality and they bring up this kind of shit?
Reminds me of Susanne Bratli (Ap/Labour party) who wanted to restrict young men from driving in the dark, have a passenger and she wanted to install alcohol and speed-locks on all cars. Just young men, as if all young men are the reason to all the accidents, and nothing was mentioned about some of those stupid ass ladies who text/put on make-up while driving!

Some feminists even say that in every major corporations administration there has to be an equal amount of men and women, which is retarded IMO. The position as board member (or whatever it's called) should NOT and I repeat NOT be given just because they happen to be male/female, it should be based upon skill and determination (IE it should be because they deserved it, not because they are X gender)

Is it even possible to accuse a woman of sexism? I don't think I've ever seen it before even though sometimes it would be the proper response.

I think that about sums it up for my rage, if you are a woman/girl reading this please don't be offended as I tried as best as I could not to generalize you, I know there's alot of good female drivers and board members. I love women/girls and probably couldn't live without them and I also want equality, but what I've written about above is NOT equality.

<3 You

PS
Don't whine if the title doesn't entirely represent my text, there's no way for me to change the title anyway.
-(Fe)male == Female/male, it is the way I meant it atleast.
-All of the "some" are added because of bitching about me generalizing when some people didn't bother to read the entire post.
-Deleted a rather stupid statement

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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
November 18 2011 14:55 GMT
#2
Nowadays, gender-based discrimination goes both ways - and unless we fight, we will lose.
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 18 2011 15:01 GMT
#3
I sorta see what you mean. My favourites are the car insurance companies for women. God forbid if someone made one just for men; that person would get lynched.

And I'm with Optical. Discrimination goes both ways, and political correctness comes to the point where those who feel they are being held back are the ones with the power, since people are so worried with their stand that they conform quickly.

Though I guess mutual discrimination does indicate a form of equality. I just hope people realise that the retaliations are caused BECAUSE of these movements that the indicated champions advocated
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 15:26:41
November 18 2011 15:25 GMT
#4
Young men are the least safe demographic of driver.

Traffic violations:
Violations Violation ratio, males vs. females
Reckless driving 3.41-to-1
DUI 3.09-to-1
Seat belt violations 3.08-to-1
Speeding 1.75-to-1
Failure to yield 1.54-to-1
Stop sign/signal violations 1.53-to-1

The study also found that female drivers were about 27% less likely to be found at fault when involved in an accident.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourCar/worse-drivers-males-or-females.aspx


But no, I'm sure it's just because the world is out to get your non-sexist self. I'm glad your non-sexist self doesn't mind attributing an attitude to all women, because of one unseen male or female driver's bumper sticker.

You've really thought this blog through, you non-sexist, you.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 15:30:52
November 18 2011 15:27 GMT
#5
You do realize women consist of roughly 50% of the world's human population right? there is no way you can claim "they" want anything, so you are annoyed by feminists because some women say stupid stuff... U're a fucking idiot.+ Show Spoiler +
men that are for gender equality annoy me. How come men claim they are non-sexist and then say stuff like this???
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 18 2011 15:38 GMT
#6
I lived through a Gender Studies class at my school's Women's Studies department.

That was a harrowing experience for me.
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 18 2011 15:42 GMT
#7
I think it's fair for insurance companies to give lower rates to female drivers. But then you also have to be consistent in other areas. When comparing two identical candidates for a job (except for their gender) it seems to be reasonably logical to give the woman a lower wage, or hire the man, because of the chance that she may go on maternity leave.
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Fuhrmaaj
Profile Joined January 2011
167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 17:37:25
November 18 2011 15:42 GMT
#8
Agree with the sentiment of your rant with one caveat: I think it is important that corporations hire at least a certain percentage of each gender because I firm which has no female employees is a firm which is likely discriminating. This is not true in every case however, for example women might not be interested in trading and the few women who do apply might do a poor job. Conversely, men might not be as interested in running a daycare and some of the few who do apply might be pedophiles. It is important to record how many of each gender apply and how many are hired.

The consideration that young men are the least safe demographic of driver is called "statistical discrimination" and shouldn't be confused with racial/gender/etc. discrimination as we know it. I do consider that young people are typically less safe than experience drivers and it wouldn't be a stretch to have the same safety mechanisms added to the cars of all young drivers.

As far as the examples you chose, I think they are all poor. Statistical discrimination is very important to how our society functions. I don't think that in the current corporate climate that there is any cause to not have female representation in every firm. Some firms will have a higher percentage than others, but not all will be 50/50.

I took a course on gender discrimination in economics and I don't think that the entire income gap between males and females has been accounted for. I think we should wait until that gap has closed before we say that they can't have 50% representation in a firm.
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mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
November 18 2011 15:47 GMT
#9
And I must say it's stupid how women can just accuse someone of raping them if they want to destroy someones reputation/job possibilities. Even if the guy isn't found guilty, she's still managed to keep him from most jobs, wasted his time and wrecked his reputation.


???
Do you have any proof of this?

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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 16:12:36
November 18 2011 15:53 GMT
#10
On November 19 2011 00:25 Jibba wrote:
Young men are the least safe demographic of driver.

Show nested quote +
Traffic violations:
Violations Violation ratio, males vs. females
Reckless driving 3.41-to-1
DUI 3.09-to-1
Seat belt violations 3.08-to-1
Speeding 1.75-to-1
Failure to yield 1.54-to-1
Stop sign/signal violations 1.53-to-1

The study also found that female drivers were about 27% less likely to be found at fault when involved in an accident.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourCar/worse-drivers-males-or-females.aspx


But no, I'm sure it's just because the world is out to get your non-sexist self. I'm glad your non-sexist self doesn't mind attributing an attitude to all women, because of one unseen male or female driver's bumper sticker.

You've really thought this blog through, you non-sexist, you.

This has already been discussed in another thread so I'll link you to that. And if you didn't notice (or maybe I didn't write it, sorry) that this law was meant for young males only. If that doesn't sound wrong how about a law that forbids black people to go outside at night, because statisticaly most crimes at night are commited by black people. Statistics is not something you make a law out of, IMO.

On November 19 2011 00:27 nttea wrote:
You do realize women consist of roughly 50% of the world's human population right? there is no way you can claim "they" want anything, so you are annoyed by feminists because some women say stupid stuff... U're a fucking idiot.+ Show Spoiler +
men that are for gender equality annoy me. How come men claim they are non-sexist and then say stuff like this???

I'm annoyed by extremists (in this case, extreme feminists) yes, is that something that should be conisdered bad? And I'm not saying "they" want anything, I'm just saying that SOME (IE extreme feminists) women are just idiots.
Liked how you said "U're", because of the internet slang + grammar. And please notice at the bottom of the post I say that I probably couldn't live without women, and that I support equlity between men and women, but if it's supposed to be equal it can't differentiate(is this even a word?) between young males and young females in this law.

EDIT

On November 19 2011 00:47 mrafaeldie12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
And I must say it's stupid how women can just accuse someone of raping them if they want to destroy someones reputation/job possibilities. Even if the guy isn't found guilty, she's still managed to keep him from most jobs, wasted his time and wrecked his reputation.


???
Do you have any proof of this?

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Google "falsely accused of rape" and enjoy ?

@Fuhrmaaj
I didn't mean to imply that women are incapable of handling a high ranking position, I'm just saying that these positions should be given to those who have earned them, not because they are male/female.
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.Sic.
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)497 Posts
November 18 2011 15:57 GMT
#11
On November 19 2011 00:47 mrafaeldie12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
And I must say it's stupid how women can just accuse someone of raping them if they want to destroy someones reputation/job possibilities. Even if the guy isn't found guilty, she's still managed to keep him from most jobs, wasted his time and wrecked his reputation.


???
Do you have any proof of this?

0/5


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trias_e
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
November 18 2011 16:04 GMT
#12
On November 19 2011 00:25 Jibba wrote:
Young men are the least safe demographic of driver.

Show nested quote +
Traffic violations:
Violations Violation ratio, males vs. females
Reckless driving 3.41-to-1
DUI 3.09-to-1
Seat belt violations 3.08-to-1
Speeding 1.75-to-1
Failure to yield 1.54-to-1
Stop sign/signal violations 1.53-to-1

The study also found that female drivers were about 27% less likely to be found at fault when involved in an accident.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourCar/worse-drivers-males-or-females.aspx


But no, I'm sure it's just because the world is out to get your non-sexist self. I'm glad your non-sexist self doesn't mind attributing an attitude to all women, because of one unseen male or female driver's bumper sticker.

You've really thought this blog through, you non-sexist, you.


I'm not sure if these studies take into account whether or not men drive more than women on average. From the insurance companies point of view, it's fairly irrelevent since insurance doesn't cost more or less if you drive more or less. However, for blanket claims that men are on average more unsafe drivers than females, it's very important.
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
November 18 2011 16:06 GMT
#13
You frown upon generalizations, yet you are guilty of it in your post..
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
November 18 2011 16:07 GMT
#14
On November 19 2011 00:42 Fuhrmaaj wrote:
Agree with the sentiment of your rant with one caveat: I think it is important that corporations hire at least a certain percentage of each gender because I firm which has no female employees is a firm which is likely discriminating. This is not true in every case however, for example women might not be interested in trading and the few women who do apply might do a poor job. Conversely, men might not be as interested in running a daycare and the few who do apply might be pedophiles. It is important to record how many of each gender apply and how many are hired.

Are you honestly kidding me? Just because you are a man who is interested in working with small children does not mean you are a pedophile. That is fucking ridiculous I just don't know what to say. Not to mention you are implying that there aren't any female pedophiles which goes right back to the OP: People seem to automatically assume that only men are pedophiles, at least unconsciously, e.x. gender discrimination tilted in favor of women.

achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
November 18 2011 16:08 GMT
#15
I know I generalized in the post, but for fucks sake can't people read the bottom of the post? But OK, I'll redo.
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RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
November 18 2011 16:14 GMT
#16
Today's "real" feminists don't want equality, they want more power for women, in ways that in the long run will destroy civilization.

Also - equality isn't natural, men and women are very different.

User was temp banned for this post.
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
November 18 2011 16:16 GMT
#17
Though your execution is absolutely horrible, some parts have some merit.

To completely punish a demographic with draconian laws on the reckless actions of those in that demographic is misguided and it wouldn't solve the problem. People will flout the law irregardless. It would only punish those that were most likely law abiding in the first place.

False accusations of rape do occur and society nowadays do take on the adage of 'guilty before proven innocent' which can ruin that person's reputation. Rape can also go unpunished, which is sad, but the system isn't perfect.

The administration board having a perfect 50/50 ratio is stupid as well. The person should be voted in on merit. I see female CEO's as well, i'm sure there's some sort of conspiracy against women to prevent them from taking high paying jobs from males! Oh no!
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 16:19:24
November 18 2011 16:18 GMT
#18
On November 19 2011 01:08 achristes wrote:
I know I generalized in the post, but for fucks sake can't people read the bottom of the post? But OK, I'll redo.


dont worry about it there are always people who cant argue and thus have to rely on screaming "that's a generalisation blabla" as if that was an argument or not allready clear.
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
November 18 2011 16:19 GMT
#19
On November 19 2011 01:16 FractalsOnFire wrote:
Though your execution is absolutely horrible, some parts have some merit.

I was waiting for something like that, and if it helps to have an excuse...
+ Show Spoiler +
Because I'm 16, English is not my native language AND I suck at explaining


I get what you mean though ^^
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 16:25:59
November 18 2011 16:20 GMT
#20
Adding at the end of your post that you didn't mean to be an idiot doesn't excuse your idiocy in the rest of the post.

Hiring by merit already occurs. In cases with near equal candidates, diversity is an added benefit because it often improves organizations. And it goes both ways. People who complain that women only make 76% of a men's salaries are wrong too. Controlled by merit/experience/education/etc., in most fields and sub-fields they make the same.

Of course the driving law was stupid, but the subsequent post complaining about insurance premiums was completely off base. The rest of your OP is just gibberish based on non-evidence and sweeping generalizations about a type of people and their belief. I have never seen a business person or academic or anything claim that boards should be divided up equally by sex. I have no idea where you even got that from.
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