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I was doing really, really well on ladder. I defeated alot of mid-masters and alot of good high diamonds.
Then when Season 4 started I got promoted into masters, I was the happiest man alive.
Then all of a sudden I started to play really, really bad. Even losing to rank 50 diamonds.
Two weeks later I'm still doing really bad, while I managed to get placed into masters in season 4 I'm now getting beat hard by players that are rank 50 diamonds. Ofcourse everyone has it's loss streaks and win streaks but mine always lasted for a few days and then I came back to winning. Also today I played 11 games and out of those 11 I only won 4.
I don't want to imply that I'm better than all of the ones I got beaten by but it seemed that the losses weren't justified.
What do you guys do when you have these massive slumps?
 
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Just play more it will even out eventually.
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On November 05 2011 00:50 chingchong99 wrote:
Just play more it will even out eventually.
It's just so strange that all of a sudden I can't even defeat low-diamonds while I got promoted to masters just one month ago.
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On November 05 2011 00:46 Moshikaro wrote:
I don't want to imply that I'm better than all of the ones I got beaten by but it seemed that the losses weren't justified.
so you played perfectly? I'm sure you made many correctable mistakes.
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Blazinghand
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On November 05 2011 00:53 Moshikaro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 00:50 chingchong99 wrote:
Just play more it will even out eventually. It's just so strange that all of a sudden I can't even defeat low-diamonds while I got promoted to masters just one month ago.
Hm... well, maybe take a break for laddering for a day or two, and practice against some of your friends? If you're gonna have a losing streak, might as well iron it out in customs and not lose ladder points imo.
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Theres barely any difference between low masters and diamond tbh
A good player in diamond league will beat a bad player in masters.
Also its a new season, rank means nothing, someone could've been top 8 last season and not played much this season and be rank 50.
Usually I take a break, before I go back I go over everything that I lost to, make a list of everything to be aware of and then play some more, usually works out.
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play some customs w/ friends imo. Then try to string a couple of wins together and go from there.
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On November 05 2011 01:18 Darkdeath3 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 00:46 Moshikaro wrote:
I don't want to imply that I'm better than all of the ones I got beaten by but it seemed that the losses weren't justified.
so you played perfectly? I'm sure you made many correctable mistakes.
Where did I say that I played perfectly? If you have nothing useful to add to this thread then please refrain from even opening it.
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You said the losses were not justified. That would imply you didnt make mistakes there was some other cause to your losses.
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On November 05 2011 01:28 adwodon wrote:
Theres barely any difference between low masters and diamond tbh
A good player in diamond league will beat a bad player in masters.
Also its a new season, rank means nothing, someone could've been top 8 last season and not played much this season and be rank 50.
Usually I take a break, before I go back I go over everything that I lost to, make a list of everything to be aware of and then play some more, usually works out.
This. Ladder rank (aside from which league you're in) is almost worthless. It's more an indicator of how much you play. Only in master's can you see an actual ratio.
Especially at the beginning of the season as well, people who have only played a handful of games could be high dia MMR, but only 3 wins b/c they've played 4 games.
you're putting too much emphasis on the actual standing in the division.
Excalibur_z's ladder guide might be helpful to let you feel better abt your position.
Also, i'd recommend taking a ladder break for a day or so, just to mix things up & take off the pressure
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On November 05 2011 02:30 Darkdeath3 wrote:
You said the losses were not justified. That would imply you didnt make mistakes there was some other cause to your losses.
This guy has a point. it's all about mindset, i find it a lot more helpful when i admit mistakes, then try to fix them, and get a lot better.
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On November 05 2011 00:53 Moshikaro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 00:50 chingchong99 wrote:
Just play more it will even out eventually. It's just so strange that all of a sudden I can't even defeat low-diamonds while I got promoted to masters just one month ago.
I've noticed that in myself. Lately I've had no problem defeating high masters(rank 20 and up) but then lose to high diamonds. I think it's just a consistency thing: you gotta practice and stay on top of things every single game. This might get boring though
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i just take a break :/ play a few custom games with my friends to get momentum again :D
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Take a day off and think about what caused you to lose each game. I went on a 12-game losing streak earlier this week. I then resolved to:
1) scout more often
2) periodically consider what my opponent is thinking about doing next
3) slow down on the eco & make sure I'm covered against early pressure/one base plays/harrassment
4) not throw away early advantages on careless engagements, but tech up & drone smartly when ahead
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Never become satisfied by how well you've been doing, that leads to content and lackadaisical playing (at least it does for me sometimes) which can lead to embarrassing losses. Never forget how much you suck, and use every game like it's an improvement opportunity, not like it's a chance to prove how good you are.
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On November 05 2011 03:23 jdsowa wrote:
Take a day off and think about what caused you to lose each game. I went on a 12-game losing streak earlier this week. I then resolved to:
1) scout more often
2) periodically consider what my opponent is thinking about doing next
3) slow down on the eco & make sure I'm covered against early pressure/one base plays/harrassment
4) not throw away early advantages on careless engagements, but tech up & drone smartly when ahead
A good thing that you say that since I noticed that I lose alot of my games just not scouting if he expo's or not, stupid stuff like that.
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When I'm having a losing streak I just go to bed and sober up.
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On November 05 2011 00:46 Moshikaro wrote:
I was doing really, really well on ladder. I defeated alot of mid-masters and alot of good high diamonds.
Then when Season 4 started I got promoted into masters, I was the happiest man alive.
Then all of a sudden I started to play really, really bad. Even losing to rank 50 diamonds.
Two weeks later I'm still doing really bad, while I managed to get placed into masters in season 4 I'm now getting beat hard by players that are rank 50 diamonds. Ofcourse everyone has it's loss streaks and win streaks but mine always lasted for a few days and then I came back to winning. Also today I played 11 games and out of those 11 I only won 4.
I don't want to imply that I'm better than all of the ones I got beaten by but it seemed that the losses weren't justified.
What do you guys do when you have these massive slumps?
During beta, was top 500 in Eu. All seasons have been masters. Now i am diamond and constantly lose to diamond. Can't believe it is happening to me and I lose even more. Massive slumps here as well.
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Try doing in-depth analysis of your replays, carefully pick apart pro playing, and play fewer games (like maybe 4-5 per day if you currently play 11).
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On November 05 2011 01:28 adwodon wrote:
Theres barely any difference between low masters and diamond tbh
A good player in diamond league will beat a bad player in masters.
Also its a new season, rank means nothing, someone could've been top 8 last season and not played much this season and be rank 50.
Usually I take a break, before I go back I go over everything that I lost to, make a list of everything to be aware of and then play some more, usually works out.
This. Masters are by no means untouchable by any diamonds. Your arrogance will be your fall if you think you can freestyle to mid/high masters.
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Everyone loses to worse players every now and then. Its not that big of a deal.
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I have a really bad habit of not stopping when I need to stop.
I'm still bad anyway btw (silver), but I'll get in days where i go like 11-2. and i'll feel AWESOME.
then i won't play for a few days.
I'll get on, and either go more normal (like 60-65%), or I'll start losing. Badly. Horribly. Mechanically, spessi wtf are you doing right now get the fuck off your starcraft.
But i wont. Ill go 1-4, then 1-7, then ill be at 2-16 and it'll finally hit me that my head is just in a terrible place right now. like yesterday. i had 2 terran opponents, 1 zerg opponent, and the 15 protoss. 15. and i lost to every single one. was it because my xvp is terrible? no, not more than any other silver player anyway, but i wasn't being consistent, i wasn't playing right, i was macroing terribly, i was ignoring my hotkeys, i was randomly changing my hotkeys around, and then i wouldnt scout, or i would and then figure, "well im on five bases it doesnt matter that he has 25 voidrays cuz i can just max over and over really fast and whittle them down". basically, i was being retarded on all fronts.
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what SHOULD have happened:
I went 1-3 and took a break to work on my micro or go do something else for a little while, and analyzed my replays as best i could and then went back into it.
and then if i lost two more in a row stop laddering for the night. go do customs. even if they're custom ladder maps. micro challenge. sit with an ai or empty spot. whatever.
and i think regardless of your skill level, regardless of what you're playing against...if you feel like youre playing like shit...stop doing things that are going to negatively effect you all to hell because of it until you get past it. the key though is MAKING yourself go do something else when you identify it, rather than just say, "well i know my heads not here buttttttt im just going to keep doing my thing and be fine with it"
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Don't worry man, I got promoted to masters as well this season and I was doing a bit worse than you. I was facing mid diamonds as well and having a 3-9 loss ratio. Being frustrated, I took a week break and watched some vods, practiced with some friends, and went back to ladder. Now im 18:12 and starting to face high masters!  , its just how you perceive the game imo. With a good mindset you can almost never slump
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