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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 31 2011 19:24 GMT
#21
All the nice people generally don't talk with me publicly, mostly via IRC private message or on the forums equally in private message.

Not sure why, but it's okay. I accept them regardless.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 31 2011 19:24 GMT
#22
my favourite poster was the one dude who had like 120 posts even though he'd been at TL since nearly day 1
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 31 2011 19:24 GMT
#23
On November 01 2011 04:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 04:20 ComaDose wrote:
Can you never love someone completely because you can only know parts of them?


Yes. But you know enough of the parts you encountered to accept them as a whole and thus can be with them regardless of what imperfections arise (they only emphasize the perfections you enjoy and live for).

that's nice. but sad. Your rule goes along well with an attitude I often have that I guess could be summed up with a little dialog like:
Someone:"I hate well known person X hes always so lame and negative stuff"
me: "I don't know person X so I don't hate them."
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 31 2011 19:26 GMT
#24
On November 01 2011 04:24 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 04:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
On November 01 2011 04:20 ComaDose wrote:
Can you never love someone completely because you can only know parts of them?


Yes. But you know enough of the parts you encountered to accept them as a whole and thus can be with them regardless of what imperfections arise (they only emphasize the perfections you enjoy and live for).

that's nice. but sad. Your rule goes along well with an attitude I often have that I guess could be summed up with a little dialog like:
Someone:"I hate well known person X hes always so lame and negative stuff"
me: "I don't know person X so I don't hate them."


Yes, it is unfortunate for me.

That's essentially what it is, but more along the lines of: "I don't hate person X, but I dislike what he's doing, done or did. I wish I could know him further to understand why he would do such things and thus, learn more about people in general and better suit myself for interactions that work in our favours rather than starting off on the wrong foot"
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Ko1tz
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France493 Posts
October 31 2011 19:29 GMT
#25
On November 01 2011 04:24 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 04:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
On November 01 2011 04:20 ComaDose wrote:
Can you never love someone completely because you can only know parts of them?


Yes. But you know enough of the parts you encountered to accept them as a whole and thus can be with them regardless of what imperfections arise (they only emphasize the perfections you enjoy and live for).

that's nice. but sad. Your rule goes along well with an attitude I often have that I guess could be summed up with a little dialog like:
Someone:"I hate well known person X hes always so lame and negative stuff"
me: "I don't know person X so I don't hate them."


Same here.

I was looking for ways to put it but somehow I didn't find the words lol...so simple yet so hard for me *sigh*
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 31 2011 19:31 GMT
#26
On November 01 2011 04:29 Ko1tz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 04:24 ComaDose wrote:
On November 01 2011 04:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
On November 01 2011 04:20 ComaDose wrote:
Can you never love someone completely because you can only know parts of them?


Yes. But you know enough of the parts you encountered to accept them as a whole and thus can be with them regardless of what imperfections arise (they only emphasize the perfections you enjoy and live for).

that's nice. but sad. Your rule goes along well with an attitude I often have that I guess could be summed up with a little dialog like:
Someone:"I hate well known person X hes always so lame and negative stuff"
me: "I don't know person X so I don't hate them."


Same here.

I was looking for ways to put it but somehow I didn't find the words lol...so simple yet so hard for me *sigh*


Welcome to the rules of life :B
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
October 31 2011 19:32 GMT
#27
The issue with rule 2 is that you let people off too easily or justify their actions for them, which enables them.


I think this is something very dangerous. I believe there are people who are just bad people; selfish, self serving, hateful. Maybe they do not deserve to be "hated", but sometimes people do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

+ Show Spoiler +

Also, I'm very impressed with the Torte, they must have made some significant software upgrades. It's even got a backstory now!


I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 31 2011 19:34 GMT
#28
On November 01 2011 04:32 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
The issue with rule 2 is that you let people off too easily or justify their actions for them, which enables them.


I think this is something very dangerous. I believe there are people who are just bad people; selfish, self serving, hateful. Maybe they do not deserve to be "hated", but sometimes people do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

+ Show Spoiler +

Also, I'm very impressed with the Torte, they must have made some significant software upgrades. It's even got a backstory now!




What backstory haha?

Like I said, it's easier to walk back then walking forward with someone. If you learn what kind of person he is, then walking back, you'll know what to look out for when you meet other people like him and thus be able to respond to him properly ;3

The underlining law is that you should give everyone a chance.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 20:27:29
October 31 2011 20:25 GMT
#29
Pretty interesting rule (i like it more than the last lol)...although I don't like how you call them rules. I don't really know what you should call them, but rule just seems to imply something that they're not. the word rule just rubs me as something that is restrictive and is usually something that could be annoying to follow. maybe it is just me

On November 01 2011 04:06 Lexpar wrote:
Whats the point for having a second post below the first just for self advertising and a cat picture?

i think it is a not-so-subtle ploy to plug his twitter account and make the plug more noticeable. the post count inflation is another good theory because there were like 4 instances of double posting in his last blog lol
Porcelain
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States218 Posts
October 31 2011 20:28 GMT
#30
Have you never been seriously wronged by someone?

Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/Porcelain_Sam
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 20:34:47
October 31 2011 20:34 GMT
#31
On November 01 2011 05:28 Porcelain wrote:
Have you never been seriously wronged by someone?



Too many times.
I never speak to or about them.

It's very heavy carrying hate about someone who probably cares less about you than you care [to feel] about them.

I resent everything they did or have done, but I don't hate them.
I just don't care about them and I feel better each day I am separated away from them.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 20:38:43
October 31 2011 20:38 GMT
#32
On November 01 2011 05:25 Whole wrote:
Pretty interesting rule (i like it more than the last lol)...although I don't like how you call them rules. I don't really know what you should call them, but rule just seems to imply something that they're not. the word rule just rubs me as something that is restrictive and is usually something that could be annoying to follow. maybe it is just me

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 04:06 Lexpar wrote:
Whats the point for having a second post below the first just for self advertising and a cat picture?

i think it is a not-so-subtle ploy to plug his twitter account and make the plug more noticeable. the post count inflation is another good theory because there were like 4 instances of double posting in his last blog lol


I am more interested in replying, then worrying about my post count. I have 100,000 posts on another forum that I used to be active in for 4 years. That's why I never care about the post count anymore, I've already hit a number that I don't feel the need to reach ever again.

Yes, I am plugging my Twitter account with other people Twitter accounts that I equally enjoy. I'm still new to Twitter and social networks, I don't have facebook or anything else, so this is my way of trying to become more connected (I feel like I miss a lot of opportunities because I don't have a social networking account).

In regards to your dislike of the word "rule": It stems from my parents who would use these lines to stamp out any arguments or explanations that they deemed terrible. They were rules because it silenced me up and prevented me from following-through with poor thinking.

I call them rules because if I follow those rules, I avoid pitfalls in life and lead, what I believe, is a better way of life and thinking. Rules are generally viewed as restrictive, but they are also used as safety precautions.

Example: Don't run by the side of the pool.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Porcelain
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States218 Posts
October 31 2011 20:41 GMT
#33
On November 01 2011 05:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 05:28 Porcelain wrote:
Have you never been seriously wronged by someone?



Too many times.
I never speak to or about them.

It's very heavy carrying hate about someone who probably cares less about you than you care [to feel] about them.

I resent everything they did or have done, but I don't hate them.
I just don't care about them and I feel better each day I am separated away from them.


Hate is pretty subjective then, I suppose.

Because to me, that essentially is what defines the act of hating someone.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/Porcelain_Sam
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 31 2011 20:44 GMT
#34
On November 01 2011 05:41 Porcelain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 05:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:28 Porcelain wrote:
Have you never been seriously wronged by someone?



Too many times.
I never speak to or about them.

It's very heavy carrying hate about someone who probably cares less about you than you care [to feel] about them.

I resent everything they did or have done, but I don't hate them.
I just don't care about them and I feel better each day I am separated away from them.


Hate is pretty subjective then, I suppose.

Because to me, that essentially is what defines the act of hating someone.


I never hate the person as a whole, only what they done and it may stem from my own discouraged feeling that I don't understand why they did it or worse: how could they do it.

I never think of these people because they are mostly not thinking about me (rule 3). To hate them is to give them worth, to ignore them is to assume they are as meaningless as they should be. When it comes down to weighing if their good is more or equal to their bad, you must realize which you are feeling right now and if it's tolerant.

Otherwise, the answer is clear and so is the decision to forget about them.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Porcelain
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States218 Posts
October 31 2011 20:49 GMT
#35
On November 01 2011 05:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 05:41 Porcelain wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:28 Porcelain wrote:
Have you never been seriously wronged by someone?



Too many times.
I never speak to or about them.

It's very heavy carrying hate about someone who probably cares less about you than you care [to feel] about them.

I resent everything they did or have done, but I don't hate them.
I just don't care about them and I feel better each day I am separated away from them.


Hate is pretty subjective then, I suppose.

Because to me, that essentially is what defines the act of hating someone.


I never hate the person as a whole, only what they done and it may stem from my own discouraged feeling that I don't understand why they did it or worse: how could they do it.

I never think of these people because they are mostly not thinking about me (rule 3). To hate them is to give them worth, to ignore them is to assume they are as meaningless as they should be. When it comes down to weighing if their good is more or equal to their bad, you must realize which you are feeling right now and if it's tolerant.

Otherwise, the answer is clear and so is the decision to forget about them.



Hm, well said. I expect a new "rule" daily. Mkay?

Don't disappoint me.

I guess I've let hate (and the emotions associated with it) really drag me down during certain points in my life. It's a lot of negativity to carry such strong feelings.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/Porcelain_Sam
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 31 2011 20:52 GMT
#36
No, no new rule tomorrow. I actually don't like writing daily blogs because I feel forced and it doesn't come out the way I want. I don't like this blog either because it lacks something I can't identify.

Yes, I'm going to say it's okay to dislike someone. Not hate because it's so strong, but to dislike someone for all that they've done and not because of who they are as an entirety (because you don't know them as well as you would have liked [if you did, maybe you would have known in time to avoid the issues that arose, maybe, I don't know]).

Hate, regret, etc. They all tie us down and just have us thinking of the past. If I look back on my road, I can see its unpaved, full of potholes and large rocks.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
October 31 2011 21:01 GMT
#37
i can never get torte's respect. i think it's just one of those things, maybe i have a inferiority complex.
Perhaps i could break the ice with a little of that great Brazilian jazz crooner, Antonio Carlos Jobim
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 21:03:28
October 31 2011 21:03 GMT
#38
On November 01 2011 06:01 Roe wrote:
i can never get torte's respect. i think it's just one of those things, maybe i have a inferiority complex.
Perhaps i could break the ice with a little of that great Brazilian jazz crooner, Antonio Carlos Jobim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d8y4HxW8Eg


My respect is similar to everyone else's. By default, I respect you because we are in a common area that we enjoy and agree upon (and since you aren't banned, you hold the same ideals of civility that allows you to post freely here).

What makes you say I don't respect you as a person?

P.S: lovely song :3
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
November 01 2011 00:00 GMT
#39
On November 01 2011 04:32 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
The issue with rule 2 is that you let people off too easily or justify their actions for them, which enables them.


I think this is something very dangerous. I believe there are people who are just bad people; selfish, self serving, hateful. Maybe they do not deserve to be "hated", but sometimes people do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.



I know people like this. They will drag you down with them eventually. You want to help them or, err, give them a chance, but all they really want is to fuel their self-deception. The litmus test here is to stop playing along.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 01 2011 00:25 GMT
#40
You guys assume that as you give them a chance you blindly ignore all factors or likelihood that they present issues you do not agree with.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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