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On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him.
If that's the way this works you shouldn't have any fans left, right?
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On October 31 2011 20:11 Jakkerr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him. If that's the way this works you shouldn't have any fans left, right?
I don't think idra has ever apologized for anything.
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I'm not so sure you will be able to change those things you want to change. But at least this is a much better ending for you than the previous post.
Good luck in thy future endevours, though I have a hunch you'll be back.
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I thought it would take a couple of months before he realised that he got the attention he wanted from his leaving post. Apparently it only took a few days. Honestly, you've lost my respect for sure.
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On October 31 2011 20:15 MrDudeMan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 20:11 Jakkerr wrote:On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him. If that's the way this works you shouldn't have any fans left, right? I don't think idra has ever apologized for anything.
So?
Apologizing for something you did shows u actually care, people shouldn't get a second chance cause they apologised for something stupid they did?
It's not like Milkis killed sum1.
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Stop giving him attention
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On October 31 2011 16:54 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him. for a guy that hardly posts, you actually go out of way to convince the community that Milkis is a douchebag. That's actually kind of sad.
This is not a real thing right? IdrA is for sure top 5 posters in TL of all time, only behind maybe the admins and incontrol...Not sure if trolling...or just stupid...
User was temp banned for this post.
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I still think it's absurd to apologize for something as mild and harmless as what he said, especially after being bullied into it. In this case at least he should've just gone with the Idra approach to "community criticism".
But since that was his decision, I'll let it go.
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On October 31 2011 20:27 TemujinGK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 16:54 JoeSchmoe wrote:On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him. for a guy that hardly posts, you actually go out of way to convince the community that Milkis is a douchebag. That's actually kind of sad. This is not a real thing right? IdrA is for sure top 5 posters in TL of all time, only behind maybe the admins and incontrol...Not sure if trolling...or just stupid...
Top 5 trash posting for sure, most of them are not even up to the quality of top 1000. Quality>Quantity bro
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On October 31 2011 15:21 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 15:16 Rekrul wrote:On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him. I'm not sure if you're qualified to say that or not LOL ive never apologized for anything so im pretty sure its ok
huk is a peice of shit warp gate all in fag
huk joins eg
huk is really good!
boxer just cheeses me, sucks at sc2
get cheesed by boxer 4 times in a row last mlg
"GG"
you're right you dont apologise. your opinion just flip flops at random
for someone who has said time and time again that BW is far superior to sc2 im surprised idra is giving milkis crap for supporting broodwar, maybe they had a "misunderstanding" in the shower room at some mlg now idra is angry to hide his true feelings, who knows
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Have i got this right because I somehow missed this:
1: Milkys said that SC/BW is the only "true" E-Sport which is factually wrong ( but you could argue that SC/BW is way more deserving to be an E-Sport than SC2/every other RTS, only morons would try to rip your head off for that  )
2: INTERNET RAGES!!!
3: Milkys whines about him being him and quits doing SC related stuff?
4: INTERNET IS CRYING.
Conclusion would be that the Internet is filled with drama seeking retards?
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This whole situation is getting more attention then it should.
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Milkis says he just suddenly realized that he's a drama queen, an attention whore, and that he humble brags....
Well... Not sure he did when reading that tbh ! That "apology" looks like a joke to me.
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On October 31 2011 21:08 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 15:21 IdrA wrote:On October 31 2011 15:16 Rekrul wrote:On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him. I'm not sure if you're qualified to say that or not LOL ive never apologized for anything so im pretty sure its ok huk is a peice of shit warp gate all in fag huk joins eg huk is really good! boxer just cheeses me, sucks at sc2 get cheesed by boxer 4 times in a row last mlg "GG" you're right you dont apologise. your opinion just flip flops at random for someone who has said time and time again that BW is far superior to sc2 im surprised idra is giving milkis crap for supporting broodwar, maybe they had a "misunderstanding" in the shower room at some mlg now idra is angry to hide his true feelings, who knows
This was more painful to read then the OP
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Regarding the reddit article:
That thing was more of a history lecture than anything else. Milkis just listed things that happened during BW and went on to say that those things are what makes an esport. But mostly it was just a history lesson. It was only in the very beginning and end of the article that he spoused opinions about BW vs other games. The most drastical thing he wrote in that whole article was "IMO, it [BW] is the only eSport."
It all boils down to labeling, which is nearly futile to have a discussion about. It's better to just agree to disagree and clarify definitions when debating. Despite of what djWheat thinks, Milkis didn't shit on other games. He just said that he wouldnt label them as esports, and he explained why. He didn't take anything away from the games or the players playing them. He didn't take away anything from their hard work or the fans or nothing. In the reddit thread djWheat said that Milkis said "fuck you" to a whole bunch of people, which is simply not true. Denying an activity a certain label is not the same as flipping the bird to the people excercising said activity. It's not even a subjective matter.
zlasher accused Milkis of overdramatizing the whole thing, which is weird becuase the article was very calmy written and did nothing to actively stirr anything up. It was simply his opinion, very calmy and friendly put. If anyone in the reddit thread is stirring up drama its djWheat. Just read his post. (Yes, i know zlasher accused Milkis of drama-ing prior to djWheat's post.)
The other reactions to the reddit article are equally hilarious. Holy shit is the butthurt flowing through this community. Is everyone here twelve years old? Within the first responses to the article people were already talking about completely offtopic stuff, like Milkis' translations and wether or not he's fluent in this or that language. By the way, why didn't you assholes bring that up before Milkis was an easy target? (maybe you did, sorry IF you did, I'm not active in this community). Milkis was also accused of inserting biased commentary in his translations and that he therefore didn't do his job. Fair enough, but, as milkis stated in his "Good Bye" thread (more on this later), he never wanted to do it. He did it only becuase it was excpected from him.
Regarding the Good Bye thread:
So, Milkis opens the thread by apologizing for his wording of his opinion(s) in the reddit article... Wow, you guys must have been hard on him, because that was one of he most carefully, friendly stating of opinions I've ever read. He then explains the reasons why he's leaving this community, which are 1) people were attacking him personally for his opinions on what makes an esport. 2) That suddenly everything he's done for this community has sucked, 3) it's exhausting work to translate and do what he did, 4) reasons 1,2 and 3 discouraged him from doing anything else for the community. You basically bullied someone off the internet.
In the responses to this people were just namecalling and strawmanning milkis, calling him a pussy/crybaby instead of dealing with what he actually said. I think I really despise this community.
Edit: I haven't read the OP, but this whole apology shit seems very undeserved.
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Calgary26004 Posts
I think you did intend most of the stuff you said you didn't intend. Anyways, thanks for the apology and see you tomorrow.
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