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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 27 2011 10:32 GMT
#1
So, without fail, every time I read through the forums I want to switch races.

I played protoss in brood war, I thought they were awesome.

I decided to try Zerg in SC2, because I figured they'd be awesome too. The race itself rocks, the only thing that really sucks is the community around Zerg.

Let me put it this way, there is a certain subsection of the Zerg community that consists of some of the most annoying whining assholes that I have ever seen. This eclipses any other random balance whining I've ever witnessed. The Zergs here make me so ashamed of playing this race of losers that think they're losing because of imbalance when they're just terrible.

I think personally that Zerg is the easiest race to play at lower levels. 1 building to macro from and you can be very effective with minimal amount of micro. I play people on daily basis who are better than me, but I can win them anyway because of maphack (overlords/creep) and just a-moving my units on them.

I'm at the point now that I'm so disgusted with the Zerg community that I want to switch to something where I can enjoy the company of people who aren't crying losers. I wish Zergies would always be like "fuck yeah, we're awesome, let's do this". But I've never seen Zerg players loving their race the way I do.

Even when protoss were stuck in their deepest slump, there was more Zerg whining than protoss, and those protoss players were dealing with much more difficulties than Zergies ever did.

I think Zerg is awesome, borderline OP, and I'm really happy I'm playing Zerg. Until I meet other Zerg players whose tears disgust me.

I think I might try to switch to Terran or Protoss.

Do you think I'd be welcome in the land of tanks or templars?

***
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tymt
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden293 Posts
October 27 2011 10:40 GMT
#2
Tanks and templars tend to shoot first when a hydralisk enter their land.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 27 2011 10:43 GMT
#3
lol I don't think your problem would be fixed by switching races. It'd just be said in your direction and you'd probably hear it more often.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 27 2011 10:49 GMT
#4
On October 27 2011 19:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:
lol I don't think your problem would be fixed by switching races. It'd just be said in your direction and you'd probably hear it more often.


That would fix my problem!

I have no problem with protoss complaining zerg is OP. I'd just go "And what about it... bitch!".

What I hate is people of my race complaining our race is not awesome, when it is awesome. I'm ashamed of being part of a race that whenever a Zerg loses in a tournament, the LR thread explodes with balance whines, when really, the Zerg just got outplayed.
Computer says mafia
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
October 27 2011 10:51 GMT
#5
Totally agree with you dude. Zerg from the start cuz it's so easy and good.

Don't need to micro cuz the Hivemind (improved ai) does it for me. :D
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Rampoon
Profile Joined May 2009
United Kingdom166 Posts
October 27 2011 10:53 GMT
#6
Quite literally could not agree more.
Join Terran - mm all the way (men and metal.....obv!)

Or just play random and stop reading LR reports whenever there's a zerg playing...
FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 11:00:53
October 27 2011 10:57 GMT
#7
I think you have a good point, there are a lot of whiners out there for Zerg, but that's because when you play Zerg one little mistake could cost you the game. 'Opps, just flew my mutas over a thor' or 'Opps, just lost 20 lings to a single baneling'. The other races don't really have that, If a terran loses a drop ship, yes it's a hit which may put them behind but no so much that they could lose the game.

People have got it in their head that Zerg is the weakest race, but those people do not use Zerg to it's full potencial. How many games do you see where a Zerg uses nydus worms to pressure the enemy or secure expantions? Or does a drop like terrans do all the time?

The Zerg community is, IMO, more vocal then Terran or Protoss because when you play Zerg it's like your part of a brotherhood. Every Zerg get's 'the rage' when they play sometimes. One of my friends went from playing Protoss to Zerg, he said he'd never been so angry in a game before and quickly swapped back. It's because we are more vocal that everyone notices us, and unfortunatly the whiners tend to be the more vocal members

Have you not see the 'unsung hero..' threads? There are tribute threads to overlords, queens, hydras and even broodlings here on TL. Don't forsake the Zerg because of the vocal minority, instead try to inspire new thinking to help the community.

If however, after reading my incredibly patriotic post, you do decide to switch race go Protoss, their imba! I joke, I just find Protoss more like Zerg with warpins and I love force fields which is more in line with my style of play

Edit:
On October 27 2011 19:49 Palmar wrote:
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On October 27 2011 19:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:
lol I don't think your problem would be fixed by switching races. It'd just be said in your direction and you'd probably hear it more often.


That would fix my problem!

I have no problem with protoss complaining zerg is OP. I'd just go "And what about it... bitch!".

What I hate is people of my race complaining our race is not awesome, when it is awesome. I'm ashamed of being part of a race that whenever a Zerg loses in a tournament, the LR thread explodes with balance whines, when really, the Zerg just got outplayed.


MVP vs Nestea, Blizzcon finals, Game 3....... Why did Nestea not just ATTACK FOR GOD SAKE!! He could have won so easiley, but he just sat there and let MVP back into the game. 100% Outplayed
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 11:01:02
October 27 2011 10:58 GMT
#8
Protoss are recovering a little bit now, they've stopped crying recently. Join terran! We've never had any issues, so nobody whines! I saw one guy in a chat room go on a horrible ravenous rant about how imbalanced lategame ZvT was in zerg's favor, but I checked his match history and it turns out he lost a lategame TvZ three minutes earlier, on tal'darim.

So other than the occasional whiner, we're really happy nice people :>

edit: and yes, I kind of agree with your main point. I have a somewhat annoying zerg friend who (despite being in gold league -_- keeps alluding to zerg being harder or weaker than any other race.

"...I just think it's kind of lame how zerg has to be one base ahead to be good at all..."

"I was listening to spanishiwa, and i agree zerg needs a way to deal with force fields..."

(v_v)...
memes are a dish best served dank
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 11:07:19
October 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#9
Go for the land of dice, like a BOSS.

We dice-men do not take sides. We do not care about imbalances, as imbalances help us as well as hurt us. Some of us know everything about every race, and some of us know nothing about any race. We do not just enjoy Zerg, Protoss, or Terran. We enjoy Starcraft in all its forms.

We are neutral. We are few. We are proud.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 27 2011 11:04 GMT
#10
Switching from zerg would just confirm that zerg is so UP that people start to jump ship. Lol hydras joke game no scouting coinflip cheese deathball collosus marines>banelings!! Did I cover it all?

Seriously I wonder how big role Monsieur Fields has had in the zerg QQ culture. Maybe it is also partially due to the big nerfs they got early on, due to the heavily OP:ed roach early beta...
TechnoZerg
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia75 Posts
October 27 2011 11:09 GMT
#11
On October 27 2011 20:00 eviltomahawk wrote:
Go for the land of dice, like a BOSS.

We dice-men do not take sides. We do not care about imbalances, as imbalances help us as well as hurt us. Some of us know everything about every race, and some of us know nothing about any race. We do not just enjoy Zerg, Protoss, or Terran. We enjoy Starcraft in all its forms.

We are neutral. We are few. We are proud.


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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 27 2011 11:09 GMT
#12
On October 27 2011 20:00 eviltomahawk wrote:
We are neutral.


What makes a man turn neutral?
Lust for gold?
Power?
Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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Phenrock
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom132 Posts
October 27 2011 11:26 GMT
#13
This is rather strange. I've experienced a fair share of whiners all races.

The QQ from protoss can be unbearable sometimes, just as much as from Zerg and Terran not so much, but still whine when other races gets buffs and they get nerfs.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 11:55:15
October 27 2011 11:55 GMT
#14
I think you just hear it a lot more from zerg players because there actually are quite a lot more zerg players on TL than any of the other two races, so you're going to hear both the negative and positive from zergs a lot more loudly than you would with terran or protoss.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
October 27 2011 12:08 GMT
#15
I agree to some extent. the general whine is extremely annoying, but there are games/situations where it is justified. An example would be the mass ghost endgame vs Zerg. Nevertheless - thanks for your blog. I guess it was needed.
keep it deep! @zulison
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 12:22:49
October 27 2011 12:12 GMT
#16
I don't understand how seeing other zerg players complain about the state of the game, has an inpact on what race you decide to play. I would also deny the existence of a "zerg community", in my opinion the solidarity found between the players of each race is one of the shallowest forms of solidarity.
Are you afraid to be associated with whiners? I'm a bit perplexed, as to why you can't just completely ignore every ignorant opinion on balance, coming from zerg players. If you beleive in said stereotype, this is your chance to prove people wrong. But considering it's only a vocal minority, I don't see why it matters.

"I'm ashamed of being part of a race that whenever a Zerg loses in a tournament, the LR thread explodes with balance whines, when really, the Zerg just got outplayed."
Really? Being a zerg players sounds like it defines your identity, when in fact all you have in common with those people, is that you press the same button when queuing for ladder.
All that matters is you enjoy playing the race is it not?

In addition to that, "But I've never seen Zerg players loving their race the way I do." followed by "I think I might try to switch to Terran or Protoss." is hilariously ridiculous, and I disagree about zerg being the easiest race at lower levels (Which is arguably illustrated by: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3551858/StarCraft_II_Balance_Snapshot_-9_22_2011?page=13)

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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 27 2011 12:14 GMT
#17
Switching race isn't like moving apartments dude. No matter what race you play there will be just as many complainers, and if people are complaining about Z then you'll have to deal with them more when you play T or P. If you want to get away from it then play some other game --- but I think you just wanted to complain, which is a little ironic. You certainly showed those whiners... oh wait.
May the BeSt man win.
Bd.Snake
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia163 Posts
October 27 2011 12:18 GMT
#18
Your whining about the whiners don't you see how much of a hypocrite that makes you
And part of the reason people whine about it in the lr threads so much isnt because of the race its because of the players
Point is stop whining about whiners when that just makes you a whiny bitch.
Well see the thing of it is you know theres alot of ugly people out there walking around but they dont know there ugly because nobody actually tells them
Steglich
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 12:26:49
October 27 2011 12:26 GMT
#19
shitty blog. Protoss is the easiest race by far. Zerg requires strategic thinking and good mechanics. Zergs whine because 90% (at least for myself) of the games that they lose, it is because of some stupid timing/rush/allin and not a "real" macro game where real skills are shown.
1 star for hyprocitic opinions and double standards.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
October 27 2011 12:29 GMT
#20
On October 27 2011 21:26 maggy0 wrote:
shitty blog. Protoss is the easiest race by far. Zerg requires strategic thinking and good mechanics. Zergs whine because 90% (at least for myself) of the games that they lose, it is because of some stupid timing/rush/allin and not a "real" macro game where real skills are shown.
1 star for hyprocitic opinions and double standards.


I think you kind of proved his point lol.
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