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Weeks 1 and 2: TvZ

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Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 23:17:58
October 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#1
A couple things I've been focusing on in the first 2 weeks of grinding non-stop TvZ:

Building and Turret Placement

I've been loading up some reps of progamers, specifically and trying to copy where they place their turrets. I knew that it was 4-6 at nat, 4-6 at main, 2 at rax, but that doesn't really tell me anything. I've been copying some base layouts that still make it nice to macro, while giving you a lot of space to micro against muta and still have turrets up to defend against everything.
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notice how much space you have to micro your marines




Although marine vs muta micro against 300 APM zergs can be pretty daunting, I read some advice (I think by Ver) that said “marines and turrets are pretty fragile on their own, but together they are hard to beat”.

9 minute push

The rest of the week was spent trying to get the 9 min push out while mutas are all over your face. For those of you that aren't familiar, the 9 min push is a 3 tank 1 science vessel push that happens at *surprise surprise*, 9 minutes.

I have been able to get it out in single player ezpz obviously because there are no mutas, but I've been trying to do the build under pressure. The first few times have been pretty bad, getting the push out at 11 or 10 minutes, but it's been averaging around 9:40 now, so i'm pretty happy with that. As for microing the push.... LOL.
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I'm using this pic, coz i couldn't find the replay where I was trying to chase away some mutas and my push ran into 20 lurkers and died


Supply Block Number of last 7 games:

92 92 44 (><), lost the game b4 supply block, then the next 3 or 4 games I react to 9 pool/ling pressure badly (scouting is important yo).

I've been meaning to keep track of when I get supply blocked. I hope that as I improve, this number will get higher and higher. Do they have this feature of having the first supply block in replay programs? I'm not sure but if they decide to add it in, give me credit ^^.

Other thoughts:
Everyone else decided to steal my thunder and start streaming terran so i'm gonna be original and write a blog instead. (jk jk, need more terran streamers)

Links to streams:
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http://www.twitch.tv/nazza131
http://www.twitch.tv/pand0r
http://www.twitch.tv/reminin
http://www.twitch.tv/puppykiller3
http://www.twitch.tv/bunkerbunny


No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 20 2011 23:28 GMT
#2
Hey, whats your rank?
Jaedong.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
October 20 2011 23:52 GMT
#3
It's a pretty cool approach to learning the game; taking match ups week by week. I'll try this out!
Life's good :D
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
October 20 2011 23:52 GMT
#4
On October 21 2011 08:28 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:
Hey, whats your rank?


Highest I've ever gotten was 1700 TvZ on iccup, but that was more than 3/4 months ago. Just picked up BW again recently.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10626 Posts
October 21 2011 00:52 GMT
#5
On October 21 2011 08:52 Nazza wrote:
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On October 21 2011 08:28 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:
Hey, whats your rank?


Highest I've ever gotten was 1700 TvZ on iccup, but that was more than 3/4 months ago. Just picked up BW again recently.

This is why I play PvZ much simpler gameplay in general with no real "timing push". You just ball up, get ur sairs and templar tech out, then push
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Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
October 21 2011 01:06 GMT
#6
On October 21 2011 09:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
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On October 21 2011 08:52 Nazza wrote:
On October 21 2011 08:28 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:
Hey, whats your rank?


Highest I've ever gotten was 1700 TvZ on iccup, but that was more than 3/4 months ago. Just picked up BW again recently.

This is why I play PvZ much simpler gameplay in general with no real "timing push". You just ball up, get ur sairs and templar tech out, then push


I find TvZ to be pretty fun actually. When you get that split on those lurkers and do that drop at the same time you feel so baller. Not to mention all that is required is for you to hit the "I" button ;P.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
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