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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 05:29:21
October 15 2011 05:24 GMT
#1
first rant: the usage of the term 'bonjwa'

second rant: commentators using the phrase 'ace match' to denote the final set of every series.

pretext: the term/concept of an 'ace match' was introduced by kespa in 2005 as part of the new proleague broadcasted by both ogn and mbcgame. in order to make the best of 5 more interesting, for the fifth game (if needed to be played), teams were allowed to re-use any player on their game day roster to play in the now called ace match. unsurprisingly, this would see top players of each team be used, resulting in most of the time, a high-level match to end the day.

edit: ace match was also referred to as the 'closer', although i would have no personal qualms if a commentator used 'closer' in its stead.

my gripe here is this, why the fuck are commentators suddenly using the term to denote the final set of an individual league's series as an ace match when it has nothing to do with the original concept at all? it grossly frustrates me how over-used this term is becoming out of the wrong context.

just like the term 'bonjwa', keep it where it is supposed to belong, and don't misuse it.

in team leagues where the final set is determined by a blind picking of a player from the two opposing teams (so yes, the last set of the all-kill format is NOT an ace match) on a pre-determined map to see who will win the match for the day.

thank you.

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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 15 2011 05:27 GMT
#2
Its okay.
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
October 15 2011 05:36 GMT
#3
Kinda annoyed me but I didn't see it being used to an extent that it got me pissed off.
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
October 15 2011 05:37 GMT
#4
You know I dislike about 95% of the commentators to this day holy crap they annoy me -_- so I feel your pain there. Extreme over-hype with a lot of words / players I know they're trying to do their job by bringing excitement but come on you can definitely be more creative -__-;;
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Atticus.axl
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
October 15 2011 05:37 GMT
#5
lol Plexa :D

I'll agree with the gripe though, as I'm noticing more and more casters using the term outside of blind pick.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 15 2011 05:39 GMT
#6
right here with you brother

husky i hate you for starting this trend
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
October 15 2011 05:41 GMT
#7
Someone should give this guy a hug. Someone fast enough to dodge the bowie knife.
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pyaar
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 05:42:49
October 15 2011 05:42 GMT
#8
It bugs me more that commentators use the future tense ("It looks like the bunker will go down") all the time just because it's the thing to do.
Spray
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States402 Posts
October 15 2011 05:46 GMT
#9
You have done the world justice.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13926 Posts
October 15 2011 05:48 GMT
#10
I think they're more insinuating the tennis useage of the word "ace" and not the proleauge BW usage of it.

in that case it would be completly correct just fing annoying.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 15 2011 05:48 GMT
#11
I agree man,its kinda annoying to me and confusing to the new guys.
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
October 15 2011 05:49 GMT
#12
I really don't care when they use it as the last set for winners league. Makes me mad when they use it in 1v1 Bo3 or Bo5. wtf
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
October 15 2011 05:58 GMT
#13
I want the Proleague format in SC2. Please GOM... wanna see more diversified player pools.
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Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
October 15 2011 05:59 GMT
#14
Agreed, this bothers me in the back of my head whenever I hear it. It's just one more way I filter out the really solid casters from the gimmicky ones.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 06:03:30
October 15 2011 06:00 GMT
#15
GTR generally you are correct about these things but referring to the last game in a series with sports has been called an Ace Match. Granted it is mostly for team sports but... what televised sports weren't a team game where a series was required.

No caster is using this term incorrectly when both players have 2 wins and its a bo5. The 5th game is indeed... the ace match.
Any series can come down to one. If however it is a bo1 and somebody calls that an ace match then they are wrong in using the term. This term did not start with Kespa.
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Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 06:03:35
October 15 2011 06:02 GMT
#16
On October 15 2011 15:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
GTR generally you are correct about these things but referring to the last game in a series with sports has been called an Ace Match for like 50 years. Granted it is mostly for team sports but... what televised sports weren't a team game where a series was required.

No caster is using this term incorrectly when both players have 2 wins and its a bo5. The 5th game is indeed... the ace match.
Any series can come down to one. If however it is a bo1 and somebody calls that an ace match then they are wrong in using the term. This term did not start with Kespa.



This. Are BW terms sacred now?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
October 15 2011 06:03 GMT
#17
Well, it bugs me because it's so different from how it was treated in bwl.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51448 Posts
October 15 2011 06:06 GMT
#18
i've never, ever heard/seen commentators and/or sports writers use the term 'ace match' ever. if you can link me to some articles/videos of them using the term, it would be appreciated.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 06:23:45
October 15 2011 06:10 GMT
#19
Totally agree.
5/5
Anyway, I think foreign casters are pretty bad in general, they all look like acting rather than being naturally moved by the game. For example, compare their forced GG at the end the game with Korean casters' GG.

edit :

On October 15 2011 15:00 OmniEulogy wrote:
GTR generally you are correct about these things but referring to the last game in a series with sports has been called an Ace Match. Granted it is mostly for team sports but... what televised sports weren't a team game where a series was required.

No caster is using this term incorrectly when both players have 2 wins and its a bo5. The 5th game is indeed... the ace match.
Any series can come down to one. If however it is a bo1 and somebody calls that an ace match then they are wrong in using the term. This term did not start with Kespa.


what ?! I thought it was called ace match because teams would send their ace player to play a second game. Why would you call the last game of a series with the same players an ace match ?
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
October 15 2011 06:14 GMT
#20
On October 15 2011 15:06 GTR wrote:
i've never, ever heard/seen commentators and/or sports writers use the term 'ace match' ever. if you can link me to some articles/videos of them using the term, it would be appreciated.

Well, I think the tiebreaker sets for badminton (3rd and 5th in a Bo3 and Bo5 respectively) are called ace sets.
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