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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
October 15 2011 06:45 GMT
#21
That sort of annoys me too. I've even heard it used in the GSL at times for normal Code S/A matches
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Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 06:55:20
October 15 2011 06:46 GMT
#22
let me rant a bit as well: you're a pedant. why are you making such a big fuss over nothing? words change over time; that is the beauty of langage. id like to point out that "qualm" was previously a general term for illness that causes nausea, i really hate how people are using it to describe feelins because that wasnt its intended original meaning. i really like the old meaning more because its old and therefore the best.

see how much of an idiot that makes me sound like? meanings change, get over it.
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 07:26:55
October 15 2011 07:12 GMT
#23
On October 15 2011 15:46 Soulish wrote:
let me rant a bit as well: you're a pedant. why are you making such a big fuss over nothing? words change over time; that is the beauty of langage. id like to point out that "qualm" was previously a general term for illness that causes nausea, i really hate how people are using it to describe feelins because that wasnt its intended original meaning. i really like the old meaning more because its old and therefore the best.

see how much of an idiot that makes me sound like? meanings change, get over it.


I really don't agree that words changing over time is necessarily good. The word that annoys me is 'bail' in skateboarding which is when you kick the board away from you when you're scared or not gonna make something so it doesn't injure you when you land. However probably thanks to Tony Hawks (the games not the guy) and morons the word seems to be used for any kind of fall or when something goes wrong which is just not right at all. I kind of except that in generally language evolve and words take new meanings. But in this case it’s really irritating because everyone uses the word all the time having no idea what it actually means. Does this mean that I and all the other actual old generation skateboarders are now wrong because the majority of the population and new skateboarders have no idea what the word actually means? It’s ridiculous.

GTR I emphasize entirely with the anger you feel.

edit:my spelling is getting so bad
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
October 15 2011 07:39 GMT
#24
Final match in a bo7 could be denoted as an ace match if you assume teams are sending out players of lower caliber first and the final boss last.

This is the same assumption that a team will send their best player in a bo5 (ie: jd/flash instead of killer/violet).
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 07:52:26
October 15 2011 07:49 GMT
#25
On October 15 2011 16:39 ReketSomething wrote:
Final match in a bo7 could be denoted as an ace match if you assume teams are sending out players of lower caliber first and the final boss last.

This is the same assumption that a team will send their best player in a bo5 (ie: jd/flash instead of killer/violet).

Not sure I agree. In the true ace match the teams can choose from all their team who they think is the most likely to win the match. So we normally get the best player except for decisions based on sniping or on the map.

In winners league it’s quite normal for teams to not send their best player out last. Quite often they send them out first to see how far thought the opposition the bets player can get and then they have the rest of their squad to choose from to finish of the other team (backfired for OZ when they sent out Jaedong first against KT and he lost to violet in the first match). So when choosing their last player for the final match they don't necessarily have their best players left and by the same token the best player of the other team might have already played won a couple and then lost.

edit:spelling again.
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
October 15 2011 08:00 GMT
#26
On October 15 2011 15:46 Soulish wrote:
let me rant a bit as well: you're a pedant. why are you making such a big fuss over nothing? words change over time; that is the beauty of langage. id like to point out that "qualm" was previously a general term for illness that causes nausea, i really hate how people are using it to describe feelins because that wasnt its intended original meaning. i really like the old meaning more because its old and therefore the best.

see how much of an idiot that makes me sound like? meanings change, get over it.

It's called ranting yo. People can make a fuss with anything that they choose. It's a little rude to shut down someone just because you don't agree with them.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 15 2011 08:21 GMT
#27
It was a little funny when GSL listed teams 'closer' and 'ace' during the GSTL.
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
October 15 2011 08:25 GMT
#28
I don`t rant about this, but GTR is right though.
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Lovedrop
Profile Joined April 2010
2629 Posts
October 15 2011 08:53 GMT
#29
bo1 ace matches are the best
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 15 2011 09:08 GMT
#30
meh, i haven't noticed this until now.. But now that i think about it, i'm probably be as annoyed as you are.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 15 2011 09:09 GMT
#31
Game, Set & Ace Match in GTR's favor :3
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 15 2011 09:31 GMT
#32
On October 15 2011 15:46 Soulish wrote:
let me rant a bit as well: you're a pedant. why are you making such a big fuss over nothing? words change over time; that is the beauty of langage. id like to point out that "qualm" was previously a general term for illness that causes nausea, i really hate how people are using it to describe feelins because that wasnt its intended original meaning. i really like the old meaning more because its old and therefore the best.

see how much of an idiot that makes me sound like? meanings change, get over it.

I think you're extremely potato and the stance you've taken is happily glocked. Words have fundamentals and suddenly racketeering them flusters the language and makes you harness finicky connotations. For juxtable, 'push' has a very stupendous connotation, referring to the action of tanks slowly muling across a flying buttress, in a gradual constantinople. Unfortunately, the landing has been watered down, and now horrendously refers to any attack, regardless of its ferociousness. In essence, we have lost a foundry of that tactic and it is no longer a useful landing.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 10:18:26
October 15 2011 10:18 GMT
#33
One day they will realize that the colossus is a shitty unit and they will call it reaver to make it look better.

That will be GTR's rant #3.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19049 Posts
October 15 2011 10:33 GMT
#34
bonjwa blog dude

can't wait for the ace blog
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 15 2011 11:10 GMT
#35
i see wat u did there plexa )
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Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
October 15 2011 11:56 GMT
#36
On October 15 2011 18:31 Jibba wrote:
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On October 15 2011 15:46 Soulish wrote:
let me rant a bit as well: you're a pedant. why are you making such a big fuss over nothing? words change over time; that is the beauty of langage. id like to point out that "qualm" was previously a general term for illness that causes nausea, i really hate how people are using it to describe feelins because that wasnt its intended original meaning. i really like the old meaning more because its old and therefore the best.

see how much of an idiot that makes me sound like? meanings change, get over it.

I think you're extremely potato and the stance you've taken is happily glocked. Words have fundamentals and suddenly racketeering them flusters the language and makes you harness finicky connotations. For juxtable, 'push' has a very stupendous connotation, referring to the action of tanks slowly muling across a flying buttress, in a gradual constantinople. Unfortunately, the landing has been watered down, and now horrendously refers to any attack, regardless of its ferociousness. In essence, we have lost a foundry of that tactic and it is no longer a useful landing.


Hmm, well I think the term push is really not such a stretch from what it is used for in other games. CS, Dota, and various MMO's ect use this term pretty generously. So it doesn't really seem so out of context for me, basically a generalization for the idea for attacking with a strong force into hostile territory or making an advance out of a friendly area with something not considered a scouting tactic.

On the bright side for you I guess, most casters don't say things like "push mid" ala Painuser. Something like that actually makes a lot less sense to me, as you never here someone say in a recap or during a 2v2, "shit there's 3 dts coming mid".

As for ace match, it's a slightly harder to rationalize, but since ace generally refers to your best player or last chance in context, I don't really think it's off the wall.

I would however ask for curiosity's sake, are these terms "ace" and "push" something that the viewers denoted as the correct terms for said circumstances, or was this the direct translation from the korean and foreign pro's/casters?

I think the answer to that question gives you a little more to argue with, if there's really something to argue about.
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DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
October 15 2011 12:38 GMT
#37
GTR, watching starcraft2 streams must really piss you off
And I have to agree with both of your blogs, though I haven't seen or noticed any streamer yet that said "bonjwa" but I don't watch that much, maybe it happens quite frequently and if it does I'm happy I've missed it.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 15 2011 14:11 GMT
#38
Either this is something thats totally flown by me or this must be an SC2 thing...
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