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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 20:32:59
August 31 2011 16:51 GMT
#1
Abbreviated Thoughts




  • Watching a three day tournament is like eating a big bag of candy; at some point, you stop enjoying it, but something compells you to finish it.

  • Evil Geniuses is referring to their house in Arizona as "The Lair." Even Fantasy of SK Telecom T1 thinks they're trying a little too hard.

  • SjoW placed 8th, but if he doesn't improve his macromanagement and clean up his schizophrenic building placement, he will disappear from the scene quickly.

  • Watching Idra reminds me of watching Mike Tyson in late 1990's. Even though he's clearly lost a step, he is still very talented, and you can always count on him to put on a show.

  • MLG's point system in conjunction with the GSL exchange program has effectually frozen the pool players into their spots. Incredibly, out of Incontrol's last 21 pool play games he has only won a single game. More incredibly, he is guaranteed a pool play spot for Orlando.

  • When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."

  • Wannabecool is exacly that. He made the championship bracket for the second time in a row, and he had the guts to counter a Puma's1-1-1 (marine, banshee, tank) with his own (collosus, phoenix, zealot).

  • Protoss players aren't quite ready to call Liquid's new recruit their Hero. In pool play, he lost to a slumping Trickster, the solid but predictable Select, and doomed himself (because of extended series) by going down to DRG 0-2. Still... we're waiting for his replays to be released.

  • Trimaster's nickname should be TM20 because he taught Idra and Jinro how to Rage.

  • Demuslim is apparently as good as they say. He beat, Cruncher, Kawaiirice, TLO, Ret, and Trickster on his way to a 14th place finish.

  • Finally, on a more general note, Protoss players believe they're the weakest race right now. Infestors, EMPs, and 1-1-1s are all guaranteed to lead to many Protoss players being banned in LR threads.


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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 31 2011 16:52 GMT
#2
Where did Fantasy comment on "The Lair" o.O
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 16:53:34
August 31 2011 16:53 GMT
#3
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 31 2011 16:54 GMT
#4

Trimaster's nickname should be TM20 because he taught Idra and Jinro how to Rage.


Haha, good one.

The abbreviated thoughts are good, but they're also a bit blunt if the subjects themselves were reading it.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 31 2011 17:07 GMT
#5
On September 01 2011 01:53 QTIP. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^


I hope someone has a picture T_T
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pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
August 31 2011 17:07 GMT
#6
What do you mean even Fantasy thinks they are trying too hard?
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
August 31 2011 17:15 GMT
#7
On September 01 2011 02:07 pStar wrote:
What do you mean even Fantasy thinks they are trying too hard?


Haha, it's just a joke that apparently missed the mark. EG calling their house the lair seems like a corporate company forcing a cute nickname on something. With all the twitter hastagging and whatnot, it just seems to me that they're trying to hard.

Because of this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195375 Fantasy always sticks out to me as a player who tries to hard. Particularly this game. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36676_Fantasy_vs_HyuN/vod
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 31 2011 17:17 GMT
#8
Fantasy = Often GGs super late = He's one of the biggest tryhards ever = it was a joke (a funny one imo )

5/5 I thought it was funny. =)
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 31 2011 17:20 GMT
#9
On September 01 2011 02:15 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:07 pStar wrote:
What do you mean even Fantasy thinks they are trying too hard?


Haha, it's just a joke that apparently missed the mark. EG calling their house the lair seems like a corporate company forcing a cute nickname on something. With all the twitter hastagging and whatnot, it just seems to me that they're trying to hard.

Because of this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195375 Fantasy always sticks out to me as a player who tries to hard. Particularly this game. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36676_Fantasy_vs_HyuN/vod


Now that was too obvious in retrospect...
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
August 31 2011 17:27 GMT
#10
On September 01 2011 02:07 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:53 QTIP. wrote:
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^


I hope someone has a picture T_T


[image loading]
^^
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 31 2011 17:36 GMT
#11
He is nada!
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
August 31 2011 17:38 GMT
#12
I saw IdrA's rage, but can anyone share a video of where Jinro is raging?
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
August 31 2011 17:43 GMT
#13
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:
SjoW placed 8th, but if he doesn't improve his macromanagement and clean up his schizophrenic building placement, he will dissapear from the scene quickly.

That's funny, because this is what I (and I'm sure many others) have been thinking since the beginning of beta. "With such a low apm, no scouting, bad macro, he will get eaten by other players easily when the overall skill gets higher". Yet, he's still one of the top players out there. I honestly have no idea how he does it, is he genius or something?
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 17:43:55
August 31 2011 17:43 GMT
#14
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


  • Finally, on a more general note, Protoss players believe they're the weakest race right now. Infestors, EMPs, and 1-1-1s are all guaranteed to lead to many Protoss players being banned in LR threads.

as a zerg player i agree with this.
Actually I think zerg has been the strongest for a while now.
And if it is deciding who is better of terran or protoss right now, considering every match up, I think P is the weakest.
tournament results dont reflect my opinion but tournament results are never evidence of how the balance of a game is.
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surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
August 31 2011 17:45 GMT
#15
LOL. I thought you were referencing Fantasy the vulture terrorist who is an evil genius which lives in a lair of doom or something. But I have to agree with the posters above. The Nada moment gave me the nerdchills hardcore. That guy's just a part of history, like it or not and he won't soon be forgotten.
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Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 31 2011 17:52 GMT
#16
On September 01 2011 01:53 QTIP. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^


This is so awesome.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 31 2011 17:53 GMT
#17
On September 01 2011 02:27 QTIP. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:07 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On September 01 2011 01:53 QTIP. wrote:
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^


I hope someone has a picture T_T


[image loading]
^^


I WISH I WAS NADA!
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 31 2011 17:57 GMT
#18
Couldn't have said it better myself, especially about the NaDa part.
5/5
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 31 2011 18:06 GMT
#19
Nada part was totally awesome!!!!
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Fijnkonijn
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands48 Posts
August 31 2011 18:07 GMT
#20


[*] MLG's point system in conjunction with the GSL exchange program has effectually frozen the pool players into their spots. Incredibly, out of Incontrol's last 21 pool play games he has only won a single game. More incredibly, he is guaranteed a pool play spot for Orlando.



This is what I was thinking about too, previous points were easier to obtain without the Korean players from GSL participating. But these points are now still worth as much as they were before, while harder to obtain. This is just wrong.

An idea for a solution from me would be; take the list of finishers and pull out the players from the exchange program, award the player ranking points on this list you have left.

So if GSL exchange players would finish first to second but the third place would be taken by a non-exchange player, this third place would receive ranking points for finishing first.

Another idea I would like to share is taking a certain amount of points or percentage from a pool player who did not finish higher as their ranking points place them. (Doing the same here, by withdrawing the exchange players from the final finish.)

While it might have a flaw, this is just a quick thought of solution. I just don't think it's right for players who have to struggle through the open bracket, do well but earn less points as they should get, if you compare their efforts with those of previous players who are now seeded.

And in the end, if the seeded players actually remain the strongest players it will simply result in better games.
Think of something to say by yourself.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2171 Posts
August 31 2011 18:10 GMT
#21
I'm glad that Nada still remembers who he is.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 18:12:46
August 31 2011 18:12 GMT
#22
What on earth is a schizophrenic building placement?

Btw. if sjow stays in korea longer than just 1,2 months he might disappear from the scene a bit but if anything he is gonna get better compared to the rest of europeans. And you dont have to have great Macro to be one of the best europeans, just look at goody, he is still damn successful.

Other than that this was a nice read
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
August 31 2011 18:27 GMT
#23
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:
[*] MLG's point system in conjunction with the GSL exchange program has effectually frozen the pool players into their spots. Incredibly, out of Incontrol's last 21 pool play games he has only won a single game. More incredibly, he is guaranteed a pool play spot for Orlando.


HAHAHAHAHHA that made me laugh so hard god MLG's system is terrible. I think this is good that incontrol is performing so badly because this way, MLG can't ignore that their system is terrible
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-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
August 31 2011 19:51 GMT
#24
On September 01 2011 03:27 desrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:
[*] MLG's point system in conjunction with the GSL exchange program has effectually frozen the pool players into their spots. Incredibly, out of Incontrol's last 21 pool play games he has only won a single game. More incredibly, he is guaranteed a pool play spot for Orlando.


HAHAHAHAHHA that made me laugh so hard god MLG's system is terrible. I think this is good that incontrol is performing so badly because this way, MLG can't ignore that their system is terrible


Honestly, Incontrol didn't play terribly this last MLG. He simply played against players who were much better than him. Trickster might have gone 0-5 in Incontrol's group.
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