• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:37
CEST 03:37
KST 10:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection6Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June2Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? What kind of tool would you be interested in? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
BW animated web series: seeking contributors 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 FlaSh's ASL S21 Finals Review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June
Tourneys
[BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5311 users

MLG Raleigh Quick Impressions Column

Blogs > -_-
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 20:32:59
August 31 2011 16:51 GMT
#1
Abbreviated Thoughts




  • Watching a three day tournament is like eating a big bag of candy; at some point, you stop enjoying it, but something compells you to finish it.

  • Evil Geniuses is referring to their house in Arizona as "The Lair." Even Fantasy of SK Telecom T1 thinks they're trying a little too hard.

  • SjoW placed 8th, but if he doesn't improve his macromanagement and clean up his schizophrenic building placement, he will disappear from the scene quickly.

  • Watching Idra reminds me of watching Mike Tyson in late 1990's. Even though he's clearly lost a step, he is still very talented, and you can always count on him to put on a show.

  • MLG's point system in conjunction with the GSL exchange program has effectually frozen the pool players into their spots. Incredibly, out of Incontrol's last 21 pool play games he has only won a single game. More incredibly, he is guaranteed a pool play spot for Orlando.

  • When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."

  • Wannabecool is exacly that. He made the championship bracket for the second time in a row, and he had the guts to counter a Puma's1-1-1 (marine, banshee, tank) with his own (collosus, phoenix, zealot).

  • Protoss players aren't quite ready to call Liquid's new recruit their Hero. In pool play, he lost to a slumping Trickster, the solid but predictable Select, and doomed himself (because of extended series) by going down to DRG 0-2. Still... we're waiting for his replays to be released.

  • Trimaster's nickname should be TM20 because he taught Idra and Jinro how to Rage.

  • Demuslim is apparently as good as they say. He beat, Cruncher, Kawaiirice, TLO, Ret, and Trickster on his way to a 14th place finish.

  • Finally, on a more general note, Protoss players believe they're the weakest race right now. Infestors, EMPs, and 1-1-1s are all guaranteed to lead to many Protoss players being banned in LR threads.


***
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 31 2011 16:52 GMT
#2
Where did Fantasy comment on "The Lair" o.O
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 16:53:34
August 31 2011 16:53 GMT
#3
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 31 2011 16:54 GMT
#4

Trimaster's nickname should be TM20 because he taught Idra and Jinro how to Rage.


Haha, good one.

The abbreviated thoughts are good, but they're also a bit blunt if the subjects themselves were reading it.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 31 2011 17:07 GMT
#5
On September 01 2011 01:53 QTIP. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^


I hope someone has a picture T_T
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
August 31 2011 17:07 GMT
#6
What do you mean even Fantasy thinks they are trying too hard?
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
August 31 2011 17:15 GMT
#7
On September 01 2011 02:07 pStar wrote:
What do you mean even Fantasy thinks they are trying too hard?


Haha, it's just a joke that apparently missed the mark. EG calling their house the lair seems like a corporate company forcing a cute nickname on something. With all the twitter hastagging and whatnot, it just seems to me that they're trying to hard.

Because of this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195375 Fantasy always sticks out to me as a player who tries to hard. Particularly this game. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36676_Fantasy_vs_HyuN/vod
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 31 2011 17:17 GMT
#8
Fantasy = Often GGs super late = He's one of the biggest tryhards ever = it was a joke (a funny one imo )

5/5 I thought it was funny. =)
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 31 2011 17:20 GMT
#9
On September 01 2011 02:15 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:07 pStar wrote:
What do you mean even Fantasy thinks they are trying too hard?


Haha, it's just a joke that apparently missed the mark. EG calling their house the lair seems like a corporate company forcing a cute nickname on something. With all the twitter hastagging and whatnot, it just seems to me that they're trying to hard.

Because of this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195375 Fantasy always sticks out to me as a player who tries to hard. Particularly this game. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36676_Fantasy_vs_HyuN/vod


Now that was too obvious in retrospect...
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
August 31 2011 17:27 GMT
#10
On September 01 2011 02:07 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:53 QTIP. wrote:
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^


I hope someone has a picture T_T


[image loading]
^^
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 31 2011 17:36 GMT
#11
He is nada!
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
August 31 2011 17:38 GMT
#12
I saw IdrA's rage, but can anyone share a video of where Jinro is raging?
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
August 31 2011 17:43 GMT
#13
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:
SjoW placed 8th, but if he doesn't improve his macromanagement and clean up his schizophrenic building placement, he will dissapear from the scene quickly.

That's funny, because this is what I (and I'm sure many others) have been thinking since the beginning of beta. "With such a low apm, no scouting, bad macro, he will get eaten by other players easily when the overall skill gets higher". Yet, he's still one of the top players out there. I honestly have no idea how he does it, is he genius or something?
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 17:43:55
August 31 2011 17:43 GMT
#14
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


  • Finally, on a more general note, Protoss players believe they're the weakest race right now. Infestors, EMPs, and 1-1-1s are all guaranteed to lead to many Protoss players being banned in LR threads.

as a zerg player i agree with this.
Actually I think zerg has been the strongest for a while now.
And if it is deciding who is better of terran or protoss right now, considering every match up, I think P is the weakest.
tournament results dont reflect my opinion but tournament results are never evidence of how the balance of a game is.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
August 31 2011 17:45 GMT
#15
LOL. I thought you were referencing Fantasy the vulture terrorist who is an evil genius which lives in a lair of doom or something. But I have to agree with the posters above. The Nada moment gave me the nerdchills hardcore. That guy's just a part of history, like it or not and he won't soon be forgotten.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 31 2011 17:52 GMT
#16
On September 01 2011 01:53 QTIP. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^


This is so awesome.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 31 2011 17:53 GMT
#17
On September 01 2011 02:27 QTIP. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:07 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On September 01 2011 01:53 QTIP. wrote:
On September 01 2011 01:51 -_- wrote:


[*] When Nada stomped across the stage, pumped his fist, and said "I am Nada" after steamrolling Puma's natural to win the extended series 4-3, he was telling Puma "I'm a StarCraft Broodwar legend; a bonjwa; arguably the most successful player of all time--you're an Estro B-Teamer."



Best moment for me. ^^


I hope someone has a picture T_T


[image loading]
^^


I WISH I WAS NADA!
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 31 2011 17:57 GMT
#18
Couldn't have said it better myself, especially about the NaDa part.
5/5
[TLMS] REBOOT
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 31 2011 18:06 GMT
#19
Nada part was totally awesome!!!!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Fijnkonijn
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands48 Posts
August 31 2011 18:07 GMT
#20


[*] MLG's point system in conjunction with the GSL exchange program has effectually frozen the pool players into their spots. Incredibly, out of Incontrol's last 21 pool play games he has only won a single game. More incredibly, he is guaranteed a pool play spot for Orlando.



This is what I was thinking about too, previous points were easier to obtain without the Korean players from GSL participating. But these points are now still worth as much as they were before, while harder to obtain. This is just wrong.

An idea for a solution from me would be; take the list of finishers and pull out the players from the exchange program, award the player ranking points on this list you have left.

So if GSL exchange players would finish first to second but the third place would be taken by a non-exchange player, this third place would receive ranking points for finishing first.

Another idea I would like to share is taking a certain amount of points or percentage from a pool player who did not finish higher as their ranking points place them. (Doing the same here, by withdrawing the exchange players from the final finish.)

While it might have a flaw, this is just a quick thought of solution. I just don't think it's right for players who have to struggle through the open bracket, do well but earn less points as they should get, if you compare their efforts with those of previous players who are now seeded.

And in the end, if the seeded players actually remain the strongest players it will simply result in better games.
Think of something to say by yourself.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#85 (PTR Edition)
PiGStarcraft652
CranKy Ducklings64
davetesta28
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft652
ProTech85
Nina 48
Temp0 29
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 4094
Rain 3250
Artosis 563
Noble 23
NaDa 18
Nal_rA 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever429
capcasts98
NeuroSwarm91
Counter-Strike
taco 193
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox680
Mew2King91
Other Games
summit1g12960
Day[9].tv1543
shahzam570
C9.Mang0568
ViBE121
Maynarde119
UpATreeSC41
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick932
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP12
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21172
League of Legends
• Stunt223
Other Games
• Day9tv1543
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 23m
Kung Fu Cup
9h 23m
Maestros of the Game
13h 23m
Classic vs Lambo
Clem vs Maru
Replay Cast
22h 23m
The PondCast
1d 8h
Maestros of the Game
1d 13h
Serral vs Rogue
herO vs SHIN
OSC
1d 20h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Maestros of the Game
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
OSC
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
Acropolis #4 - GSB
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.