• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:35
CET 06:35
KST 14:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !9Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Micro Lags When Playing SC2? ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1985 users

Ladder Blog #5

Blogs > neobowman
Post a Reply
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 08:00:04
July 15 2011 07:37 GMT
#1
Special edition! I played 2 ladder games today, so nothing much to report there (One game, I accidently clumped up my mutas and lost them to a single thor T_T. Should've had that game won. The other one was a clean cheese cleanup). Instead, I off-raced on PTR!

Got placed into plat! Oh yeah! I'm playing Terran to get a feel for the matchup of ZvT. Back in his prime, (Z)sAviOr mostly practiced ZvT as Terran, so there's got to be some value in here.

+ Show Spoiler [TvT] +
Okay, so I have literally NO CLUE how to play this matchup. I kinda saw the recent Day9 daily on it. It wasn't Zerg so I didn't really pay attention. There's lots of mech recently, but marine/tank is viable, as far as I understand.

Okay, so I played a game and I got destroyed. One, I had no vikings or hellions and got rolled in a base race since he could kill my workers off fast, but his workers destroyed my tanks =(. Surprisingly, no other TvTs have occured.

I'm probably going to try for a hellion/tank mix. Brood War style. Well, actual Brood War style would involve me massing up thors and medivacs for drop, but that doesn't seem that viable. So positioning is the name of the game, and I think I'd be pretty good at it. Hopefully. We'll see once I actually get some games in.


+ Show Spoiler [TvZ] +
Okay, this just in, my marine micro SUCKS. Like, I lose every single one of them to banelings every single time. Not to mention how annoying mutas are (now I know how you feel Terrans).

To compensate for this, I've decided to go for mech (following in the footsteps of (T)Fantasy) Turned out, my mech is actually pretty good. Hellion harass, babam! Plus tanks and thors are awesome. The one problem I think is that I keep forgetting to incorporate marines into my mix. And I'm not sure what my building composition should be. For bio, it's pretty simple, but for mech? Do I go like 4 factory 2 rax? What about addons? I'm confused.

As for my build, the only one I know is the MMA reaper expand so I base my mech play off of that, transfering the tech lab to a factory and going for blue flame hellions. Works pretty well, but I need more practice to get the timings down (not likely, since I still have to practice my main race.) I also tried straight up reactor hellions into banshees. Won pretty easily with that too. I think I'm beginning to like mech. If only spider mines still existed.


+ Show Spoiler [TvP] +
The only matchup I'm half decent at. I know two builds. A 2 rax marauder concussive and reactor marine push, and I know the 1 rax FE. I do one or the other depending on the map size. My early game is definitely my forte. My micro isn't that good but since I don't have to macro, I actually do pretty well. My macro sucks.

I haven't gotten into the habit of hotkeying my barracks or factories. It's such a hassle. Like as Protoss, you get warpgates, as Zerg, I just hotkey my hatcheries. URGHHHH! It's annoying.

I got the 3 rax reactor starport mid-game, but I have no idea what to do after that. I forget upgrades, I don't know when to get ghosts and I have no clue how to use any other units lol. My ghost micro is decent but everything else falls to pieces, most importantly my macro.


So, that's it. If anyone wants to give me tips on my Terran play, I'd appreciate it. Currently sitting at rank 7 Plat, thanks to my good early game and mech. Also, still looking for practice parters for my Zerg (high masters) if anyone's up for it.

Blog #1
Blog #2
Blog #3
Blog #4

edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
July 15 2011 07:52 GMT
#2
I'm a Protoss player you can add if you want. Can you PM me your username and character code?
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 15 2011 07:57 GMT
#3
Forgot to add, could you only ask for practice if you're high masters and above? If it still applies, then just tell me again.
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 09:07:14
July 15 2011 08:28 GMT
#4
On July 15 2011 16:57 neobowman wrote:
Forgot to add, could you only ask for practice if you're high masters and above? If it still applies, then just tell me again.

I never heard of such a rule. Maybe you were mistaken.

Edit: Grammar.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
July 15 2011 08:41 GMT
#5
... wut
So you're looking for PPs for your Zerg, not your Terran?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 09:06:41
July 15 2011 09:05 GMT
#6
TvT is all about positioning (yeah, I'm sure everyone has heard of this one before) but it's all about finding weak points in their siege line/position and taking advantage of it. You need experience to know when you can cost effectively attack into siege tanks, but don't be too afraid of 4-5 that don't have any marines/helions buffering. Also, one thing that will help a lot is if instead of trying to attack their army head on, you look to take a sieged position on one of their expansions. If you see they're trying to take a 3rd, siege up the 3rd before their command center lands and they'll be forced to attack into your siege line or fall behind. Prepare for counterattacks if you do this successfully.

TvZ if you go mech (or mech in any other matchup really) don't bother going marines. You won't have the upgrades and they'll be useless, and if you do try to get the upgrades then you don't have enough gas for everything else. It's best to get 1 rax, 3 factories (1 reactored, 2 tech labs), and a starport with a reactor for maybe 2 vikings. Timings on when to get out siege tanks and thors are important because if they get a good amount of roaches or mutas you can just die. If they're going a lot of roaches you'll want mostly tanks and maybe 1-2 thors, if they go ling muta then you want a good number of thors like maybe 5-6 as well as siege tanks still, but use helions more often to clean up the lings. Also putting up a lot more turrets than usual won't hurt as much as when you go marine tank since they're mostly a mineral dump.

TvP is pretty straightforward. Your build is good, just obviously keep up with upgrades, get 2 engi bays going after you get 1-1, and figure out what their unit composition is going to be. If you see they're going hts over colossus or a lot of chargelots/archons then get ghosts out asap after you finish your starport.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 18:17:14
July 15 2011 18:16 GMT
#7
My Terran is just for fun. I actually need practice for my Zerg.

Thanks IMDM.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
19:00
WWG Amateur Showdown
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft595
RuFF_SC2 202
Nina 73
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24462
Larva 506
Shuttle 500
Leta 186
Mong 17
Noble 12
Sea 0
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm51
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 643
Counter-Strike
summit1g10837
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor133
Other Games
Mew2King104
ViBE61
Models2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick852
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH211
• practicex 37
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1493
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 26m
Ladder Legends
11h 26m
BSL 21
14h 26m
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Wardi Open
1d 6h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 11h
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.