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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 30 2011 21:51 GMT
#1
Again, I have a problem that TeamLiquid has to solve. This isn't as trivial as the last problem though. So, I've mustered up the motivation to actually play Starcraft instead of simply watching Starcraft and stalking IdrA. I'm doing pretty good. I'm working my way up to Diamond league, and I'm learning how to fend off cheese at a decent pace.

But while my APM is fine and dandy and my strategies and timings are up-to-date, I always forget one thing...I forget to breathe. I don't know why, but when it gets to 3 base play and I have to start multitasking like a madman, I stop breathing. I hardly notice it during the game, but after my opponent GGs, I gasp for air and take a minute to recoup. And my friends (on skype) always laugh at me because during the game, I apparently breathe heavily at weird intervals.

So TeamLiquid, I ask for your help again. Please give me tips on how to breathe while playing Starcraft 2. I think it may be detrimental to my health and play in the long run.

*
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
June 30 2011 21:52 GMT
#2
This is dangerous. I highly recommend you get a playlist that goes, "Breathe in, breathe out," similar to the ones you always hear about in blond jokes.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
tuukster
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland114 Posts
June 30 2011 21:59 GMT
#3
Try a game or two focusing on inhaling thru the nose and exhaling thru the mouth.
Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
June 30 2011 22:03 GMT
#4
play some music and hum to it or something? I dunno man D:
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 30 2011 22:04 GMT
#5
On July 01 2011 07:03 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
play some music and hum to it or something? I dunno man D:

I play music, but by the late game I kind of just zone out and don't even hear anything...I guess I'm trying too hard unintentionally?
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 30 2011 22:04 GMT
#6
Hmm sometimes when I try to get to sleep I concentrate really hard on doing nothing and then I have to gasp for air, what I do is just relax, so don't be consciously thinking about breathing as it will just annoy you.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
June 30 2011 22:06 GMT
#7
On July 01 2011 07:04 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:03 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
play some music and hum to it or something? I dunno man D:

I play music, but by the late game I kind of just zone out and don't even hear anything...I guess I'm trying too hard unintentionally?

do you play zerg? because usually in the lategame I relax a bit more, not less O____O
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
June 30 2011 22:08 GMT
#8
I think someone needs to code something like an APM alert - a breathing rate alert.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
June 30 2011 22:14 GMT
#9
i thogutht this was going to be a blog a bout how some times u forget to breathe, and i was going to read that people are as dumb as me sometimes
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
June 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#10
On July 01 2011 07:14 Liquid`HuK wrote:
i thogutht this was going to be a blog a bout how some times u forget to breathe, and i was going to read that people are as dumb as me sometimes


I'm pretty sure I'm as dumb as you.

Either that or this office is really stuffy.
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#11
Sing while playing, that will force you to either breathe or pass out, your choice.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
levarien11111
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States61 Posts
June 30 2011 22:19 GMT
#12
its not necesarily a bad thing as long as you don't faint and even if you do its not like you are gonna die :/

so if those two aren't a problem anyways then don't worry about it too much also you need to check how frequently this happens :/
death is only the beginning
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
June 30 2011 22:19 GMT
#13
also play your music louder to the point where you cant ignore it, haha
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
June 30 2011 22:25 GMT
#14
On July 01 2011 07:14 Liquid`HuK wrote:
i thogutht this was going to be a blog a bout how some times u forget to breathe, and i was going to read that people are as dumb as me sometimes

This happens to me all the fucking time. Especially during high school history, not as much anymore.
Liquid | SKT
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 30 2011 22:34 GMT
#15
On July 01 2011 07:06 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:04 Whole wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:03 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
play some music and hum to it or something? I dunno man D:

I play music, but by the late game I kind of just zone out and don't even hear anything...I guess I'm trying too hard unintentionally?

do you play zerg? because usually in the lategame I relax a bit more, not less O____O

Yeah I play Zerg. I don't see how you can relax during the late game as Zerg ahaha.

On July 01 2011 07:08 barth wrote:
I think someone needs to code something like an APM alert - a breathing rate alert.

that would help a ton...currently my friend yell at me when start breathing too heavily, but i cant be on skype with them all of the time.
brazenraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Romania122 Posts
June 30 2011 22:43 GMT
#16
had the same problem, did sports, still happened but never for more than 20 seconds.
Zerg definitely does have responses to FFs pre-hive tech. Infestors, baneling drops, burrowed roaches, and mutas are all options
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 22:56:10
June 30 2011 22:55 GMT
#17
On July 01 2011 06:52 Dalguno wrote:
This is dangerous. I highly recommend you get a playlist that goes, "Breathe in, breathe out," similar to the ones you always hear about in blond jokes.


Kanye West ft Ludacris - Breathe in Breathe Out
Thats ur song buddy, and its good =)
Banelings, "They're cute, they live in a nest". -Artosis
Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
June 30 2011 22:58 GMT
#18
Goddamnit...I am now breathing manually. Maybe keep a small glass of water near you and take sips every so often? That should get you to breathe a little bit more often.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
June 30 2011 22:58 GMT
#19
Prodigy - Breathe ?
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 30 2011 22:59 GMT
#20
On July 01 2011 07:55 Samp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 06:52 Dalguno wrote:
This is dangerous. I highly recommend you get a playlist that goes, "Breathe in, breathe out," similar to the ones you always hear about in blond jokes.


Kanye West ft Ludacris - Breathe in Breathe Out
Thats ur song buddy, and its good =)


If only they had good rappers in that song it would be better.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
noobcakes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
June 30 2011 23:16 GMT
#21
In the sidebar it reads Forgetting to Brea...

I thought it was breastfeed. haha
Professional BattleCraft Player
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 23:17:28
June 30 2011 23:17 GMT
#22
On July 01 2011 08:16 noobcakes wrote:
In the sidebar it reads Forgetting to Brea...

I thought it was breastfeed. haha


Breast feed? What? Hahaha
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 30 2011 23:44 GMT
#23
You need to play music or talk to people while you play.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
June 30 2011 23:44 GMT
#24
On July 01 2011 08:16 noobcakes wrote:
In the sidebar it reads Forgetting to Brea...

I thought it was breastfeed. haha


Haha I thought so too!
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
June 30 2011 23:45 GMT
#25
On July 01 2011 07:59 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:55 Samp wrote:
On July 01 2011 06:52 Dalguno wrote:
This is dangerous. I highly recommend you get a playlist that goes, "Breathe in, breathe out," similar to the ones you always hear about in blond jokes.


Kanye West ft Ludacris - Breathe in Breathe Out
Thats ur song buddy, and its good =)


If only they had good rappers in that song it would be better.

Hey hey hey, Luda is a great man, and Kanye is, well i think he made a few good songs one time.

Oh and OP, i think you should just not breathe, if you end up winning your games, why would you want to change? I am pretty sure that too much O2 can cause you to make mistakes. I reccomend holding your breathe the entire game. Come back and let me know how it goes.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Ravencruiser
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada519 Posts
June 30 2011 23:58 GMT
#26
On July 01 2011 06:51 Whole wrote:
Again, I have a problem that TeamLiquid has to solve. This isn't as trivial as the last problem though. So, I've mustered up the motivation to actually play Starcraft instead of simply watching Starcraft and stalking IdrA. I'm doing pretty good. I'm working my way up to Diamond league, and I'm learning how to fend off cheese at a decent pace.

But while my APM is fine and dandy and my strategies and timings are up-to-date, I always forget one thing...I forget to breathe. I don't know why, but when it gets to 3 base play and I have to start multitasking like a madman, I stop breathing. I hardly notice it during the game, but after my opponent GGs, I gasp for air and take a minute to recoup. And my friends (on skype) always laugh at me because during the game, I apparently breathe heavily at weird intervals.

So TeamLiquid, I ask for your help again. Please give me tips on how to breathe while playing Starcraft 2. I think it may be detrimental to my health and play in the long run.


How people got trolled by his post is beyond me.

Seriously? I don't even feel the need to explain myself; his fairy tale is utterly ridiculous. Most likely he made up the story, or exaggerated it way out of proportions (holding your breath in anticipation/fear/excitement happens, but not nearly to an extent (3-5 mins)where your brain cells would starting dying roflcopters).


Just putting this in perspective:

Yah, I breathe pretty heavily or "gasp" for air as well after an intense macro game. And oh shit, TL I need your help too; whenever it gets to 3rd base play with girls I have to start multitasking like a madman, I stop breathing. I hardly notice it during the game, but after my opponent GGs, I gasp for air and take a miinute to recoup. And my friends (irl) always laugh at me because during the group orgies, I apparently breathe heavily at weird intervals. HALP?
"Yah, free will is a bitch" - Drone
stahlvogel
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States10 Posts
June 30 2011 23:59 GMT
#27
i'll offer two parallel suggestions:
1) consider meditating. the goal is to spend your energy concentrating on your breath. the rhythm, flow, and maybe most importantly, the depth. it's important to keep your spine straight with a slight arch in your lower back. your chin should be pointed down and gently tucked, but don't get carried away. so imagine a taut string on the back of your head, that's attached to the ceiling.
now for the tricky part. focus the mind on your naval area, just below the belly. take a number of slow deep breaths. imagine this area expanding like a balloon on the inhale, and deflating with your exhale. after your controlled deep breathing, just sit and try to mind only your breath. it may be useful in the early stages of practice to count along with your breaths, as it is inevitable thoughts will try and steer your attention elsewhere.

2) remind yourself to breath in your pregame checklist or mantra. something along the lines of, "workers, supply, minerals, units, scout, breath, etc".

Hope this helps
Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet... ENGAGE!
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 00:11:26
July 01 2011 00:03 GMT
#28
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On July 01 2011 08:58 Ravencruiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 06:51 Whole wrote:
Again, I have a problem that TeamLiquid has to solve. This isn't as trivial as the last problem though. So, I've mustered up the motivation to actually play Starcraft instead of simply watching Starcraft and stalking IdrA. I'm doing pretty good. I'm working my way up to Diamond league, and I'm learning how to fend off cheese at a decent pace.

But while my APM is fine and dandy and my strategies and timings are up-to-date, I always forget one thing...I forget to breathe. I don't know why, but when it gets to 3 base play and I have to start multitasking like a madman, I stop breathing. I hardly notice it during the game, but after my opponent GGs, I gasp for air and take a minute to recoup. And my friends (on skype) always laugh at me because during the game, I apparently breathe heavily at weird intervals.

So TeamLiquid, I ask for your help again. Please give me tips on how to breathe while playing Starcraft 2. I think it may be detrimental to my health and play in the long run.


How people got trolled by his post is beyond me.

Seriously? I don't even feel the need to explain myself; his fairy tale is utterly ridiculous. Most likely he made up the story, or exaggerated it way out of proportions (holding your breath in anticipation/fear/excitement happens, but not nearly to an extent (3-5 mins)where your brain cells would starting dying roflcopters).

Way to make a fun blog serious. Yes, I did exaggerate the story, but I do breathe heavily during the game, so I thought I'd make a silly blog while still seeing if there is any way to stop this or if it is just a normal thing.
Ravencruiser
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada519 Posts
July 01 2011 00:13 GMT
#29
On July 01 2011 09:03 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 08:58 Ravencruiser wrote:
On July 01 2011 06:51 Whole wrote:
Again, I have a problem that TeamLiquid has to solve. This isn't as trivial as the last problem though. So, I've mustered up the motivation to actually play Starcraft instead of simply watching Starcraft and stalking IdrA. I'm doing pretty good. I'm working my way up to Diamond league, and I'm learning how to fend off cheese at a decent pace.

But while my APM is fine and dandy and my strategies and timings are up-to-date, I always forget one thing...I forget to breathe. I don't know why, but when it gets to 3 base play and I have to start multitasking like a madman, I stop breathing. I hardly notice it during the game, but after my opponent GGs, I gasp for air and take a minute to recoup. And my friends (on skype) always laugh at me because during the game, I apparently breathe heavily at weird intervals.

So TeamLiquid, I ask for your help again. Please give me tips on how to breathe while playing Starcraft 2. I think it may be detrimental to my health and play in the long run.


How people got trolled by his post is beyond me.

Seriously? I don't even feel the need to explain myself; his fairy tale is utterly ridiculous. Most likely he made up the story, or exaggerated it way out of proportions (holding your breath in anticipation/fear/excitement happens, but not nearly to an extent (3-5 mins)where your brain cells would starting dying roflcopters).

Way to make a fun blog serious. Yes, I did exaggerate the story, but I do breathe heavily during the game, so I thought I'd make a silly blog while still seeing if there is any way to stop this or if it is just a normal thing.


Thanks for proving my point, falling back onto "oh it was just for fun..."

Was it a silly blog when you asked for help? It was silly because you were worried about your health and play in the long term right? So silly indeed, attracting such non-serious replies from the likes of stahlvogel suggestion meditation and whatnot lmao.

Anyway, I killed your fairy tale blog as intended. Have a nice day.
"Yah, free will is a bitch" - Drone
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 00:18:33
July 01 2011 00:16 GMT
#30
On July 01 2011 09:13 Ravencruiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 09:03 Whole wrote:
On July 01 2011 08:58 Ravencruiser wrote:
On July 01 2011 06:51 Whole wrote:
Again, I have a problem that TeamLiquid has to solve. This isn't as trivial as the last problem though. So, I've mustered up the motivation to actually play Starcraft instead of simply watching Starcraft and stalking IdrA. I'm doing pretty good. I'm working my way up to Diamond league, and I'm learning how to fend off cheese at a decent pace.

But while my APM is fine and dandy and my strategies and timings are up-to-date, I always forget one thing...I forget to breathe. I don't know why, but when it gets to 3 base play and I have to start multitasking like a madman, I stop breathing. I hardly notice it during the game, but after my opponent GGs, I gasp for air and take a minute to recoup. And my friends (on skype) always laugh at me because during the game, I apparently breathe heavily at weird intervals.

So TeamLiquid, I ask for your help again. Please give me tips on how to breathe while playing Starcraft 2. I think it may be detrimental to my health and play in the long run.


How people got trolled by his post is beyond me.

Seriously? I don't even feel the need to explain myself; his fairy tale is utterly ridiculous. Most likely he made up the story, or exaggerated it way out of proportions (holding your breath in anticipation/fear/excitement happens, but not nearly to an extent (3-5 mins)where your brain cells would starting dying roflcopters).

Way to make a fun blog serious. Yes, I did exaggerate the story, but I do breathe heavily during the game, so I thought I'd make a silly blog while still seeing if there is any way to stop this or if it is just a normal thing.

Was it a silly blog when you asked for help? It was silly because you were worried about your health and play in the long term right? So silly indeed, attracting such non-serious replies from the likes of stahlvogel suggestion meditation and whatnot lmao.

Yes it was a silly blog at first. If it was serious, then I wouldn't have asked TeamLiquid for help.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 01 2011 00:18 GMT
#31
You don't want to split your focus between breathing and playing sc2, you'll end up playing worse. Instead,get one of those respirator machines they have in hospitals.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 01:03:07
July 01 2011 00:29 GMT
#32
On July 01 2011 08:59 stahlvogel wrote:
2) remind yourself to breath in your pregame checklist or mantra. something along the lines of, "workers, supply, minerals, units, scout, breath, etc".

very awesome advice! Here are the results:

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MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 01 2011 00:29 GMT
#33
On July 01 2011 09:18 Chairman Ray wrote:
You don't want to split your focus between breathing and playing sc2, you'll end up playing worse. Instead,get one of those respirator machines they have in hospitals.

OHhh OHhhh OHhh, i recommend this as well. I also think you should get machines to replace your other bodily functions to maximize your SC2 as well. Get a Heart machine to pump your blood for you, get an IV for fluids, and get some fancy pills so you do not need to eat. This is the best way to fix your problems.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 01 2011 00:31 GMT
#34
On July 01 2011 09:29 MaxField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 09:18 Chairman Ray wrote:
You don't want to split your focus between breathing and playing sc2, you'll end up playing worse. Instead,get one of those respirator machines they have in hospitals.

OHhh OHhhh OHhh, i recommend this as well. I also think you should get machines to replace your other bodily functions to maximize your SC2 as well. Get a Heart machine to pump your blood for you, get an IV for fluids, and get some fancy pills so you do not need to eat. This is the best way to fix your problems.


How's THAT for macros Blizzard?
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
July 01 2011 12:30 GMT
#35
This sounds like a facebook status someone I know posted... "APM too high, water not helping, can't breathe"
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
July 01 2011 14:00 GMT
#36
On July 01 2011 07:58 caradoc wrote:
Prodigy - Breathe ?


Perfect song for the OP
Disregard Kanye West though.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Kaliptus
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil12 Posts
July 01 2011 14:25 GMT
#37
Lol, something similar tends to happen to me. While I don't get short of breath or breath heavily, my right leg seems to go numb for a bit in a fight when I have to micro intensively (mainly during those pesky all-ins). When I macro, even if its a long game, I'm extremely relaxed lol. Maybe you could def. listen to some chill music in a decent volume (higher than game sound). I recommend HasHe and Spanishwa's playlist, they do have some great songs in there.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
July 01 2011 15:04 GMT
#38
You guys are pretty much encouraging the materialization of the ultimate gamer:

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Dittert
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States97 Posts
July 01 2011 15:29 GMT
#39
What if you tried to talk while you played? Can you commentate on your own game while you play it? It's impossible to talk (at least for the length of a game) without breathing. I use this trick with running. If I can still talk while I'm jogging, then I know I am not running too quickly.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
July 01 2011 17:55 GMT
#40
as said before, Prodigy - Breathe. lol or just learn every 2 base timing you can and you'll never have to worry about reaching 3 bases!
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 01 2011 20:50 GMT
#41
On July 02 2011 00:04 EsX_Raptor wrote:
You guys are pretty much encouraging the materialization of the ultimate gamer:

[image loading]

did you make that?? it is fucking great
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