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BW progamer pool sucks. (SC2 vs. SC1 comparison..) - Page 3

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numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
June 25 2011 06:02 GMT
#41
On June 25 2011 14:17 dani_caliKorea wrote:
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On June 25 2011 14:15 Lachrymose wrote:
On June 25 2011 14:11 dani_caliKorea wrote:
Now I'm just waiting for some "respected" member to defend/agree with me to a certain extent. Then i'm sure all the nice posts will roll in.

SC2 has progamers age range from the likes of Nestea and White Ra to young guys like Squirtle.
(anything from 1980-early teens)

The only age for BW competitive play is like 1990-93. Even Bisu is getting old guys.


You're complaining the standard of play is too high in BW. I can only hope you don't get much support.

Too much of a good thing is bad, no?
I dont want to watch Flash break his wrist off.

As long as players really want to win and practicing more can bring them those wins then they will put in all those hours.
Do you want to force players to limit practice hours?
Or a game where players don't get much benefit from extra practice?
Or progamers who don't have the drive to win necessary to put in those hours?
Because none of those things make sense in a competitive game imo.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 25 2011 06:05 GMT
#42
Yeah all those korean fangirls are in it for superior gameplay mechanics ....
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 06:08:19
June 25 2011 06:06 GMT
#43
You think they have no personalities and no difference in their backgrounds because you don't know enough about them. There are many players out there, even the B-teamers, who have great stories behind them, it's just that you're not aware of it.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 25 2011 06:07 GMT
#44
Personally, I find BW players more interesting than SC2 players. Have you seen Nal Ra's oldboy series or Hyung Jun becomes a pro gamer? Have you seen OSL/MSL prelims, and group stages? BW pros are some amazing people. Sure there isn't as much BM and negative drama in BW as there is in SC2, but they do a lot more with expressing their personalities and backgrounds, and showing the lives of pros behind the scenes.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
June 25 2011 06:13 GMT
#45
On June 25 2011 14:11 dani_caliKorea wrote:
Now I'm just waiting for some "respected" member to defend/agree with me to a certain extent. Then i'm sure all the nice posts will roll in.

SC2 has progamers age range from the likes of Nestea and White Ra to young guys like Squirtle.
(anything from 1980-early teens)

The only age for BW competitive play is like 1990-93. Even Bisu is getting old guys.

Even Bisu's getting old. And he's still dominating. Many players from his generation are still playing strongly, Players before Bisu's generation mostly relied on innovations to get by, and lacked the strong mechanics that all pros now have. That's why older progamers are not really around anymore, because it requires innovation and strong mechanics to stay relevant in today's BW Progaming.

On June 25 2011 13:38 dani_caliKorea wrote:
You guys seriously enjoying the immensely limitation of a BW progamer?

brb training 14 hours a day
brb having a optimum career for few years max

I wish some of those guys from My OSL can compete actively

Ok forget personality. The age range of a progamer is ridic stupid

First of all, BW prohouses range from 8-12 mandatory hours, not 14. But top, dedicated progamers practice 14+ hours a day to stay up there. SC2 is approaching the same type of practicing regimen style anyways. Compare SlayerS and TSL: TSL founded to have "relaxed" practice regimens, whereas SlayerS applied the lessons from BW and enforced a rigorous 10+ hour (need to confirm exact number) practice schedule. And the result difference between the two teams are enormous. Those who decide to not put in the hours needed will fall behind.

You wish MyOSL amateurs could actually compete? Well they can: after they have at least a year or two in the B-Teamer house. It's like you expect a BBall amateur to be able to actively compete in the NBA ezpz? You don't see random low-Master league players being able to compete with the Code S do you?

and your personality argument is entirely subjective, and ignorant. BW progamers have their personalities you can see from their twitters, interviews, homepages and pictures: which only a select few get shown in the foreign community. Not to mention you don't understand how Korean culture seems to work either: its nice to see some public cockinesss and such, but if you do so and also end up losing, the Korean netizens will TEAR YOU APART.
Writerptrk
IvanC
Profile Joined October 2009
Malaysia70 Posts
June 25 2011 06:16 GMT
#46
Lower quality games in exchange for more gamer "personalities", you say?

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1. BGH Night Series
2. Gambit's Cup
3. Iccup Nation Wars
4. ISL 2,
5. Race war everyday!
6. Mudahfratking 1a2a3a[fOu]!!!!!!

Complete with foreigners, douchebags and old dudes!

Thread solved.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 06:23:03
June 25 2011 06:19 GMT
#47
On June 25 2011 13:31 dani_caliKorea wrote:
I'm willing to watch lower quality games if the players become more interesting. Anyone with me?

no.
I'll pay to watch high quality games, not immature people trash talking each other
On June 25 2011 13:31 dani_caliKorea wrote:
I don't want to see the entire progaming body to be filled with young lifeless robots.

Clearly, you haven't seen FBH.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
June 25 2011 06:19 GMT
#48
BW progamer pool is better because it doesn't have Idra.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
June 25 2011 06:22 GMT
#49
1) Throw BW in Blog title
2) Write flamebait about BW
3) Expect support

I promise if you had BW vs SC2 in the beginning of the blog you'll get a lot more favorable of a response (and we'll get more bans)
boomer hands
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
June 25 2011 06:27 GMT
#50
I just used SC2 as a comparison, I barely even watch sc2.

A decrease in Broodwar's popularity will not come from lack of skills but lack of star power. I highly doubt we will ever see the new gamers who can match the popularity of Reach, Xellos, or Hwasin in the future.
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 06:36:02
June 25 2011 06:32 GMT
#51
Disregarding your somewhat misinformed premises, I like:

that the BW skill gradient is so large that only a select few can be competitive, with extreme practice.
that everyone did not have grand, delusional aspirations of making it as a progamer.
the separation between the Korean and foreigner scenes.
that that meant the foreigner scene didn't take itself as seriously.
the general level of professionalism of Korean BW.

I mostly dislike the SC2 scene for converse reasons. Am I alone?
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
June 25 2011 06:46 GMT
#52
based on ur post history i can see u are legit BW fan. But really dont compare ur shit to sc2 cuase ppl are just gonna assume u are some random sc2 noob BMing BW
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
June 25 2011 06:57 GMT
#53
you say BW doesn't have enough difference between progamers, but two of the criteria you used to differentiate between SC2 pro's were BW based attributes.

what?

I'll rest my case with a few names

Jaehoon

bisu

yellow

kk
Writer
DeckOneBell
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
June 25 2011 07:08 GMT
#54
This seems to be a case of mistaken problems.

You could just like SC2 more for it's foreigners, whereas BW has zero foreigners in the day to day scene.

K.
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
June 25 2011 07:10 GMT
#55
I'm pretty new to SC progamer scene, having only been introed in November by friends. Not the respected forum leader you want to hear from but from reading this all I'm thinking is:

firebathero ceremonies.

Your point is moot.

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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
June 25 2011 07:42 GMT
#56
obvious troll from a cursory glance at posting history
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
June 25 2011 07:53 GMT
#57
On June 25 2011 15:27 dani_caliKorea wrote:
I just used SC2 as a comparison, I barely even watch sc2.

A decrease in Broodwar's popularity will not come from lack of skills but lack of star power. I highly doubt we will ever see the new gamers who can match the popularity of Reach, Xellos, or Hwasin in the future.

Nobody really cares about personality anyways, its the looks that matter for progaming lol, you were using the wrong comparisons..
Writerptrk
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
June 25 2011 10:13 GMT
#58
FBH? please do some more research before starting a shit storm!


Stop hating son
Apink/Girl's Day/miss A/IU/Crayon Pop/Sistar/Exo K :D l Kpop and Kdrama Enthusiast
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
June 25 2011 12:38 GMT
#59
On June 25 2011 16:42 Kraznaya wrote:
obvious troll from a cursory glance at posting history


This. Subjective opinion in a terrible and ignorant way.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
June 25 2011 15:15 GMT
#60
And again, ever watched Hyun Joong becomes a progamer? or b.net attack? or any of the bw shows?
At the biggest upset of all of bw, Shanghai SPL finals 2011
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