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TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
June 06 2011 19:42 GMT
#41
1 powerful and continuing nationalism
2 disdain for human rights
3 idintification of enemies as a unifying cause
4 Supremacy of the militant
5 rampant sexism
6 controlled mass media
7 Obsession with national security
8 Government and religion intertwined
9 Coporate power protected
10 Labour power supressed

11 Disdain for intellectuals and arts
12 Obsession with crime and punishment
13 Rampant cronyism and corruption
14 fraudulent elections


You seem to have Totalitarianism, Theocracy, and Facism all confused. I highlighted the points that true fascism actually embodies. And may I point out that Facism is awesome.
Life is not about making due with what you have; it's about finding out just how much you can achieve. Never settle for anything less than the best. - - - Read my blog!
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
June 09 2011 04:03 GMT
#42
I hoped more people from Asia would have answered, specially China. Hmm maybe they are too afraid to say anything.
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 09 2011 07:40 GMT
#43
On June 09 2011 13:03 exeexe wrote:
I hoped more people from Asia would have answered, specially China. Hmm maybe they are too afraid to say anything.

Either that or there's something called the Great Firewall of China that hinders them from posting/getting to TL lol
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
June 09 2011 07:48 GMT
#44
Or maybe it's because the thread sucks.
blah_blah
Profile Joined April 2011
346 Posts
June 09 2011 08:11 GMT
#45
EDIT: Except eight. It does a good job at avoiding that.


You cannot be serious.

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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 09 2011 08:36 GMT
#46
On June 09 2011 17:11 blah_blah wrote:
Show nested quote +
EDIT: Except eight. It does a good job at avoiding that.


You cannot be serious.

[image loading]

That’s not the same thing as government and religion intertwined. Since the majority of Americans are religious, it makes sense that they would rather have an elected official in charge that has religious ties with them. It makes it easier for the voting public to connect with the politician. Additionally, people feel more comfortable voting for others who share similar beliefs.
Number 8 refers more to stuff like states with official state religions or personality cults.
blah_blah
Profile Joined April 2011
346 Posts
June 09 2011 09:09 GMT
#47
On June 09 2011 17:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
That’s not the same thing as government and religion intertwined.


That's true. I just wanted to show how deeply entrenched Christianity is in American culture with that image. It should then come as no surprise that that same culture leads to things like this, which is an example of government and religion being intertwined:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/07/texas-gov-calls-for-prayer-and-fasting/
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17056 Posts
June 09 2011 11:51 GMT
#48
Came across this great post in the atheism subreddit. It's pretty much everything I wanted to say, just with ten times the research.

http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/hu0d8/think_you_know_about_religion_in_america_you_dont/
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Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 12:03:38
June 09 2011 12:03 GMT
#49
On June 06 2011 01:34 exeexe wrote:

I observe...

1 powerful and continuing nationalism
yes

2 disdain for human rights
yes

3 idintification of enemies as a unifying cause
yes

4 Supremacy of the militant
not so much

5 rampant sexism
not so much

6 controlled mass media
no, but self-censoring mass media

7 Obsession with national security
yes

8 Government and religion intertwined
yes

9 Coporate power protected
yes

10 Labour power supressed
no

11 Disdain for intellectuals and arts
no

12 Obsession with crime and punishment
yes

13 Rampant cronyism and corruption
Has been observed but whether its rampant i dont know

14 fraudulent elections
no

Conclusion:
thats 7 times yes and 3 times no
I wont call Denmark facist, mainly because of this

10 Labour power supressed
no

and
14 fraudulent elections
no

But with 7 yes there is definately something evil going on and its definately giving enough reason be on the barricades!


That doesnt make any sense. Your answers are just wrong.

Disdain for human rights? Denmark? Explain....?

Obsession with national security? No? Nobody is obsessed with anything.

Obsession with crime and punishment? No. Explain what you mean by this, i dont get it.

If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 09 2011 13:01 GMT
#50
On June 09 2011 20:51 Empyrean wrote:
Came across this great post in the atheism subreddit. It's pretty much everything I wanted to say, just with ten times the research.

http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/hu0d8/think_you_know_about_religion_in_america_you_dont/



Interesting. Why oh why do people feel the need to force their religious hypocrisy upon the public view. Although The Theory of Evolution can be a far more dangerous conflict-causing agent if misunderstood. Then again we could all be brainwashed into believing science is real, it would be a BIG job arranging some irrational bullshit mechanism to seem logical and methodically analyzable but hey .. you never know. We could all be standing with our backs to a fire and claiming we know the color of the fire by looking at our shadows. I don't believe that but .. just saying.
I don't know, lynch me!
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 19:52:59
June 10 2011 19:50 GMT
#51
On June 09 2011 21:03 Deadlyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:34 exeexe wrote:

I observe...

1 powerful and continuing nationalism
yes

2 disdain for human rights
yes

3 idintification of enemies as a unifying cause
yes

4 Supremacy of the militant
not so much

5 rampant sexism
not so much

6 controlled mass media
no, but self-censoring mass media

7 Obsession with national security
yes

8 Government and religion intertwined
yes

9 Coporate power protected
yes

10 Labour power supressed
no

11 Disdain for intellectuals and arts
no

12 Obsession with crime and punishment
yes

13 Rampant cronyism and corruption
Has been observed but whether its rampant i dont know

14 fraudulent elections
no

Conclusion:
thats 7 times yes and 3 times no
I wont call Denmark facist, mainly because of this

10 Labour power supressed
no

and
14 fraudulent elections
no

But with 7 yes there is definately something evil going on and its definately giving enough reason be on the barricades!


That doesnt make any sense. Your answers are just wrong.

Disdain for human rights? Denmark? Explain....?


There is this case with Birthe Rønn Hornbech:
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statsløse-sagen
FN's Børnekonvention = UNs konvention for children is the first set of rules that made up the human rights.

Denmark participated in the War against terror, and invaded afganistan, here they captured peaceful people and terrorist and what not. According to the rules you must know that they will not be subjected to torture before you hand them over to other nations like the USA. So Denmark proclaimed they had confidence that USA would not misstreat them, but so they did.

Den Europæiske Menneskerettighedskonvention
The eauropean humanrights konvention
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_Europæiske_Menneskerettighedskonvention
It says:

Protokol 12 - Diskrimination
12. tillægsprotokol forbyder diskrination i enhver form, såsom køn, race, hudfarve, sprog, religion, politisk eller anden overbevisning, national eller social oprindelse, tilknytning til en national minoritet, ejendom, fødestatus eller anden status.

Danmark har ikke (pr. 2005) ratificeret.



Rule 12: Discrimination
bla bla bla, Dont discriminate people

Denmark has not ratified it (per 2005)
I have read on other sources that it was still not ratified in 2010.

And why do you think that Denmark has not ratified rule 12 which is about discrimination?
LOL


Obsession with national security? No? Nobody is obsessed with anything.

You come here and thread the national security then we shall see what happens to you

We engaged in iraq and afgahnistan. Because we wanted to give them democracy? No because they were a thread to us with weapons of mass destruction and with terrorist acts, or so they told us. Wether it is true or not doesnt make any difference because it just shows that national security has a high priority.

Look they are just stand holding up a sign:

And yet police came and took them away and put them to jail (released the next day), they posed no threat at all, and just tried to spread a peaceful political message. So if you see, this, totally peaceful activism, what do you not think will happen if you come with a national thread?


Obsession with crime and punishment? No. Explain what you mean by this, i dont get it.

Harder punishment, longer time in jails. Our jail system is collapsing cause rules and laws are getting stricter and stricter, meanwhile the jails recieves no additional funds, and it simply cant take it anymore.

And:
http://www.b.dk/nationalt/df-vil-udvise-indvandrerbander-uden-dom
DF (a political party with members in the parliament) says we should kick people out of the nation who have not been tried in court yet.


That doesnt make any sense. Your answers are just wrong.

So why are my answers just wrong? Explain why do you think you are correct even before you had read my answers. You just assumed my answers was wrong even without listening to my explainations? What kind of a human are you? Just walking around judging people right or wrong without listening to their explainations?
You dont live here (according to the information provided), you think you know Denmark better than me?
..What did you think
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 20:19:08
June 10 2011 20:18 GMT
#52
I live parttime (60%) in the Netherlands and (40%) in Germany since my girlfriend lives there, so ill try to fill in for both countries.

1 powerful and continuing nationalism
There are some extremist nationalists in both countries. I dont know if you could call it powerfull though. But if you actually read how this question is meant No.

2 disdain for human rights

There is some, but not a lot. Currently there is more disdain for human for human rights (mostly in the religion area) in the Netherlands.

3 identification of enemies as a unifying cause
This is heapening in all western countries since 9/11.
so, yes.

4 Supremacy of the militant
No on both counts.

5 rampant sexism
Nope

6 controlled mass media
No

7 Obsession with national security
hmm, not really, only within a small group.

8 Government and religion intertwined
Not exactly sure what you mean by this.
I'm thinking No

9 Corporate power protected
No

10 Labour power supressed
No

11 Disdain for intellectuals and arts
Nope

12 Obsession with crime and punishment
No

13 Rampant cronyism and corruption
No

14 fraudulent elections
No

Both countries are nearly the same.
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