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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 21:28:09
May 25 2011 21:07 GMT
#1
My opinion:

... that more people would realise how special this community truly is. For such and old site with so many visitors, the quality and variety of news, of its visitors, its staff and its features are beyond amazing. I've grown up here, literally, and I've seen it grow firsthand. TL is incredibly rare in its kind -- in my opinion unmatched and truly unique -- and I hope people start realising this more.. Just look at the FE by Ver and the Pony Tales. Simply amazing. Appreciate it, contribute to it, love it.

... that females become more accepted in the gaming community. They receive quite a bit of hate because internet is anonymous and its population young. I hope that gender becomes an unimportant aspect of gaming, because we are all just gamers. And to add to this, I truly hope that some females realize this as well. There are examples within our community that are here because they love gaming and the community embraces them, at least to an extent. I hope that this happens more and more. But sadly there are examples that hinder this development as well, trying everything to get attention by marketing their femininity. On this side of the story, I wish for them to realize what is going on and stop this development. In the end we all love this game.

... that people would complain less. Just a little bit. I'm guilty of this too sometimes. We, as a community, are incredibly harsh and too easily butthurt. Oh no the stream is gone for 2 minutes! Oh my god the caster made a joke I did not like! And the list goes on. I often wonder if the newer members to the SC community realize how incredibly blessed we are. Before TL there was basically no way to follow the pro-scene in Korea, and tourneys were incredibly rare, especially those with money-- let alone substantial amounts of money. There were no streams, there was nothing in first person view, and hell, at the beginning we did not even have replays. We are blessed with an incredible development all across the globe and TL has facilitated and still greatly facilitates this process. Be happy! Life is amazing, better than ever !

... that ESPORTS develops in a positive way. I honestly would hate to see the situation where progamers are arrogant, unreachable pricks-- where people stop forgetting what makes this game: its spectators. Without the spectators, the gamers are nothing. I fear the day when we 'mature' and the gap between the gamers and the spectators widens too much. I think Liquid`TLO is a prime example of how it can and imo should be. He radiates love for this game and remains approachable to his fans, remains humble, remains kind, despite his busy schedule and success. Sadly, there are also other examples of insane arrogance, where the popularity has gone to their heads. Maybe a few of them is not harmful. As said on the GSL, a game also needs a villain. But in the (near) future, it might become too many..

... that people would understand just how much this site and its staff does for the community and its members, and how much TL tries to improve. As an insider, at least to a large extent, each decision is well debated and acted upon for clear reasons. Though sometimes we are not transparant enough about these, or at least not in a way that is easy to reach for the newcomers. TL is not some large corporation of anonymous corporates that hates newcomers. Not at all! But we are quite strict to keep the same quality that we've always tried to achieve-- and always struggled to achieve. But remember that without this policy, TL would be like any other site, TL would not stand out. I hope that the newer users become more acquanted with the staff and vica versa!

... that some old members realise just how much we needed the new SC2 gamers. We were growing old, maturing a bit too much. There was not enough fresh blood because BW was and still is an old game. Of course this brings some troubles, as we are in a phase of adaptation-- a phase where newer users get adjusted to TL and its features and standards and where TL, even for a bit, gets used to the rampant growth. Nothing to fear though, as TL is perfectly capable of handling this, and new users bring an awesome lot to our community. Without 'them' (or maybe I should say us, SC2 has made me a lot more active.. I watch so many games now), esports would not be heading the way that we all always dreamed it would. And that? That is simply amazing.


Here's to TL, the site that I love

****
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
May 25 2011 21:08 GMT
#2
=D. I luv u 2.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 25 2011 21:10 GMT
#3
TL is pretty neat I gotta say.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
May 25 2011 21:11 GMT
#4
I was going to write something similar for my 1000th post, now i gotta get something else!
Can only agree with what you say. TL is something very special.
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
May 25 2011 21:14 GMT
#5
TL <3
MeCurly
Profile Joined March 2011
25 Posts
May 25 2011 21:16 GMT
#6
I agree ♥
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
May 25 2011 21:23 GMT
#7
I wish I heeded my friends calls when he linked me to proleague vod's all those years ago. This community is amazing for the most part, I just wish I was part of it from the beggining.

This was a nice read to end my day at work. Thank you Beyonder.
Brood War forever!
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
May 25 2011 21:27 GMT
#8
I completely agree!

RIP MBC Game Hero
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 25 2011 21:32 GMT
#9
Before the ensuing shit storm, I think you're 100% wrong on marketing gender. Masculinity gets marketed constantly, you just don't pick up on it because it's the norm for you. Your thinking is straight from the stone age on that one.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
May 25 2011 21:32 GMT
#10
I've been coming to TL since 2004 and forunately it was the first forum I got really involved in.
I took the quality of our community for granted until I joined other forums and realized how great and unique TL is. And after 8 years it only seems to be getting better!

<3
#1 XellOs fan!
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
May 25 2011 21:36 GMT
#11
yes, obviously i agree as well. Females is always a good thing.
i forgot what the rest was about though, but i'm sure that's right too.


..


no, kidding ofc (but not to say i don't want females around). I love just reading through ancient threads where you can really get this tight community sense, that is a little lost these days. But still, TL is the most amazing community i know right now props to all the ban hammers! :D
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
May 25 2011 21:36 GMT
#12
Bey....awwwww so cute!
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 21:52:08
May 25 2011 21:42 GMT
#13
On May 26 2011 06:32 Jibba wrote:
Before the ensuing shit storm, I think you're 100% wrong on marketing gender. Masculinity gets marketed constantly, you just don't pick up on it because it's the norm for you. Your thinking is straight from the stone age on that one.

You know, Id love to talk to you about this topic sometime. I have no problem with a male being a male or a female being a female. (For example, I think the Kellymilkies FHM shoot pictures were great and she should do that for sure if she wants it ^_^). But the dominating factor should be the love for the game. Who cares what sexuality the other is really, we're all gamers, all fans. But I feel that, in general, a female should not do everything in her power to stand out just because she is indeed a female; trying to get attention in such ways. I have so much respect for Lilsusie and Haemonculus for example. Almost noone knew Haemonculus was female, she did not try to promote herself in such a way. Instead, she was just a fan and a contributor to the community. And when people realized it, I dont think she received any shit.

Would love to hear your views as I'm always open for discussion. I know im rather vague on this one. Actually kind of ad-hoc writing before I sleep, early work tomorrow^_^

(Im in no way refering to Kellymilkies here btw, jsut to clarify^^)
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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
May 25 2011 21:42 GMT
#14
I like your positive outlook...
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
May 25 2011 21:42 GMT
#15
Cheers mate
Nak Allstar.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 25 2011 21:43 GMT
#16
On May 26 2011 06:32 Jibba wrote:
Before the ensuing shit storm, I think you're 100% wrong on marketing gender. Masculinity gets marketed constantly, you just don't pick up on it because it's the norm for you. Your thinking is straight from the stone age on that one.


I wish...

Jibba became head mod or even admin if his time allowed it.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
May 25 2011 21:43 GMT
#17
One's gotta appreciate what one's got. Most true in TL's case.

Thanks to everyone. Big <3
Always smile~
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
May 25 2011 21:44 GMT
#18
fantastic blog.

People should really love this community and know every good effort meats appreciation and support. About 2-3 years ago I just couldnt sit on my hands any longer and tried doing gfx. I kept sharing my attempts, I was awful, I'm certainly pretty bad today as well, but for all this time, many TLers kept supporting me, which made me love what I'm doing.

Because of TL I found something new in my life, something I want to devote myself and develop in. Now I'm happy to be important part of Pony Tales and with my work on it, I would love to inspire and reach every new TLer and to show that the content on this site, in all its awesomeness, comes from within and its not dropped by someone from outside.

Many people came and went, most of them were students who left TL because RL consumed them. But no one who made the site great in the past or is making it what it is today, is a simple consumer. TL gives the most if you give it something from yourself.

<3
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
May 25 2011 21:52 GMT
#19
Thanks for the kind words, and I hope many more would give the proper dedication to what they do with the forum
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 25 2011 21:52 GMT
#20
♥
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