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한글 (Hangul), the next lesson - Page 3

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The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
April 29 2011 22:50 GMT
#41
Are stroke order like Chinese? From top left to bottom right?
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 22:57:40
April 29 2011 22:54 GMT
#42
Imo no, I never liked the idea of having a 'proper' way of writing each letter. I mean if you were going to go that far you might as well learn Hanja (Chinese characters) for names since it's the traditional way of writing them, but that's stupid as well (my grandparents scold me all the time for thinking like this).

I was far better at Korean as a kid and I didn't write using the correct way until I was a bit older, like I wrote ㄹ using one stroke from the top to bottom for a long time until I was sent to Saturday school to learn Korean where they taught me the 'proper' way.

@thelink, yes.
lalala
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 29 2011 22:56 GMT
#43
On April 30 2011 07:54 youngminii wrote:
Imo no, I never liked the idea of having a 'proper' way of writing each letter. I mean if you were going to go that far you might as well learn Hanja (Chinese characters) for names since it's the traditional way of writing them, but that's stupid as well (my grandparents scold me all the time for thinking like this).

I was far better at Korean as a kid and I didn't write using the correct way until I was a bit older, like I wrote ㄹ using one stroke from the top to bottom for a long time until I was sent to Saturday school to learn Korean where they taught me the 'proper' way.

@thelink, yes.


So as long as I get the proper result, doesn't matter how I got there?
Awesomeeee:D
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
April 29 2011 23:00 GMT
#44
Grats on your 3000!

And I mean, if you're going to learn a new language I guess it won't hurt to go over the stroke order unless you find it too confusing. Top left to bottom right is a good thing to keep in mind though.
lalala
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 29 2011 23:26 GMT
#45
On April 30 2011 08:00 youngminii wrote:
Grats on your 3000!

And I mean, if you're going to learn a new language I guess it won't hurt to go over the stroke order unless you find it too confusing. Top left to bottom right is a good thing to keep in mind though.


:o
I didn't even notice. I was supposed to do this blog as 3000, but I couldn't wait.

I suppose it's somewhat of an achievement. TL hwaiting!
I'll try to look up stroke order as it might reinforce the lettering, as I still make mistakes with ㄹ ㄱ ㄴ. :[
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
April 30 2011 00:13 GMT
#46
On April 30 2011 02:42 Chill wrote:
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On April 30 2011 02:18 Chef wrote:
Why is it that we translate ㅇㅣ as Lee when it's pronounced ee, and Lee would be ㄹㅣ?

Imagine if someone's last name was Ee or I. Western people would have no idea what to do with that. Same with Im or Eem. Same with Oo.

I think the reason actually isn't important though, just know that Lee = 이 etc.

Choi is really fucked up though. Since ㅊ = Ch, ㅗ = O, ㅣ= I, someone just jammed them together to make 최 = Choi. Great in theory, except that Choi is pronounced like "Choy" while 최 is pronounced like Chwae.

Korean and English separated are dumb, but when you try to translate between then and go to Konglish and Romanization, it reaches a new level of dumb. Just accept it.

Thanks for the explanation. I wouldn't find Ee as a name much weirder than any other foreign name, but I think I understand this as an artifact from emigrants trying to make their names more palatable to westerners/western languages. Lee is at least a word that we are used to hearing, but I guess if someone just said my name is Mr. Ee, it would sound sketchy or like you missed something if you weren't familiar with it.

Still, from now on I'm going to pronounce progamer names properly It seems only respectful.
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Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
April 30 2011 03:11 GMT
#47
Thanks a lot for this lesson, looking forward to the next one!
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
April 30 2011 03:20 GMT
#48
Thanks for these blogs. I can identify some of the progamer names now! Looking forward to the next lesson you do.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 30 2011 08:26 GMT
#49
I hope to continue this until all the letters are done! :D
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
May 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#50
One mistake I found was that ㄹ is not a direct R sound if used in the beginning, but a SLIGHTLY rolled R, nothing like the one in Spanish. Just say it quickly with your tongue rolled. However, the OP is right that it makes a small L sound at the end of a word (that is if not followed by a ㅇ, but you can teach them that later).

Not to take away from your thread or anything, its great but if you want to make sure you are pronouncing it accurately, this video taught me everything I knew.

2:15 is the pronunciation of ㄹ correctly
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