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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
April 28 2011 05:31 GMT
#41
i came here looking for a league that in fact trafficked in sarcasm

i unjustly feel trolled

bit of a sad moment in my life really
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Punic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States152 Posts
April 28 2011 05:33 GMT
#42
On April 28 2011 14:31 Arrian wrote:
i came here looking for a league that in fact trafficked in sarcasm

i unjustly feel trolled

bit of a sad moment in my life really


I personally apologize to you. <3
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 28 2011 05:50 GMT
#43
On April 28 2011 14:31 Arrian wrote:
i came here looking for a league that in fact trafficked in sarcasm

i unjustly feel trolled

bit of a sad moment in my life really


Unjustly trolled?

I did not know someone could be justly trolled, what a fascinating development.
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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 28 2011 05:50 GMT
#44
i liked it. when people nitpick about the small things like that then it means the NASL is hugely improving. in GSL january artosis let a f-bomb slip while describing siege tanks and the gom forums lit up with soccer mom trolls.
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ClockToweR
Profile Joined March 2011
United States61 Posts
April 28 2011 06:04 GMT
#45
On April 28 2011 13:14 motbob wrote:
I assume that the reason you aren't posting about this in the LR thread is that everyone else found it hilarious and you would just look like someone who takes things too seriously.

But the joke is on you! Even though you made a new thread, you still look like someone who takes things way too seriously.


This.

I really really enjoyed NASL today. I had a good time watching some good SC2 games and the casters were hilarious. They know when to be serious, but honestly, a little joking around is what separates good casters from amazing casters
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HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
April 28 2011 06:11 GMT
#46
+1 to motbob et. al.

This is yet another: “X caster did Y and NOW E-SPORTS IS DOOMED thread.” I just don't get it. I really don't. You say that Gret and iNc making some (frankly hilarious) jokes is “unreal.” Personally what I find unreal is how many threads come out of the woodwork every time a caster does anything. Jesus, I feel for the casters.

Gretorp & iNcontroL, keep pimping. I really enjoyed the cast tonight.
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
April 28 2011 06:33 GMT
#47
No, Punic is right. I'm sorry, but there is too much political correctness on Teamliquid. Criticism has been taken roughly the last few months, and I feel like SOTG last night showed this perfectly. Almost and hour of defense from Gretorp when not legitimately provoked? JR being an unjust dick for suggesting that people were unhappy? Let's get real. Punic is asking you to assume you were the player being assumed to lose 2-0 when Starcraft and training is your life. It's okay to make a prediction, but a person shouldn't be a total joke. Assume you are them (as the OP suggests).

A caster's job is to be neutral and passionate about the potential of each player. Day9 does this well. He only calls a game as it's ending. Don't get angry that two new casters haven't mastered this yet. Who cares that they are good at playing the game--It's not the same as casting.

E-sports is far from doomed and nothing about this post suggests that. I think that a sore attitude about quality and forced emotion is the cause of unhappiness from OP. As a non-internet troll and a personal IRL friend of Punic, I doubt most people here could be as dedicated to e-sports as him. Don't take it so hard guys, be open to criticism. Temp bans in defense of defamed, prior legends, and losing players? ...wow. Come on. Yes, the post-count defense was worthless, but that aside... this community used to be different. Don't make me miss the old days of top-notch expectations! Both sides of a game are worth respecting. This is Starcraft.
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Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
April 28 2011 06:36 GMT
#48
this is a sarcastic post right? because it's about sarcasm and it's over the top super ridiculous. right?
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
April 28 2011 07:29 GMT
#49
Guys, the problem here is that the TL community likes to band together and bash down people with opinions that conflict with their own, assholes. Luckily not everyone is like this, some people can listen to reason like normal people. But there are always some people that like to jump on the multitudes of bandwagons and drown out the one or two criticisms that people are brave enough to speak out about.

I watched the NASL for the first time tonight, and I did not like the casting. I hope you respect my opinion. Here's why- it was just a bit too unprofessional. The sarcasm continued on for too long. I wouldn't mind some sarcasm here or there, but not an entire cast during the series. So what to improve on? Just be a little bit more serious for EVERY series that is casted. Have SOME seriousness so that we are all happy and not just the TL community that enjoys watching a poor chap get owned 0 - 2 AND has casters spewing sarcastic remarks. Not everyone can be happy, but I feel like the NASL could have done better.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
April 28 2011 07:47 GMT
#50
im not a guy who takes shit seriously, and i mean i dont mind the bashing but i guess its not professional, they will be ok though since rainbow is korean hahahah

just saying though I agree that they went overboard, but for a different reason -- they were trying too hard.

dunno if the majority in this thread saying how funny it was are such nerds that any joke/sarcasm from inc and gretorp is 'hilarious' but yeah...
it was funny for a while then they kept going, and going, and going, and going... and it just got kinda dull/overdone.
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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 28 2011 07:51 GMT
#51
On April 28 2011 14:31 Arrian wrote:
i came here looking for a league that in fact trafficked in sarcasm

oh yeah, 'cause you'd TOTALLY win that

this thread is sooooo awesome

sc2 is great, what a fine community

]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 28 2011 08:25 GMT
#52
On April 28 2011 14:31 Arrian wrote:
i came here looking for a league that in fact trafficked in sarcasm


same. I vote we start a sarcasm league right now
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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
April 28 2011 17:05 GMT
#53
I'm so ignored @_@
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
April 28 2011 17:13 GMT
#54
Is this thread as a whole is a sarcasm?
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
April 28 2011 17:42 GMT
#55
On April 28 2011 17:25 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 14:31 Arrian wrote:
i came here looking for a league that in fact trafficked in sarcasm


same. I vote we start a sarcasm league right now


What an awful suggestion. That would never work. People aren't interested in sarcasm.
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loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 28 2011 19:11 GMT
#56
lololololololololololol

Contrary to popular belief, a good caster isn't a robot. Theyre trying to add some humor to the cast lol. Some people take this idea of professionalism way too far. I'd rather have a caster be entertaining than strictly professional by the arbitrary standards of some guy in the LR thread.
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loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 19:17:51
April 28 2011 19:13 GMT
#57
On April 28 2011 15:33 Quesadilla wrote:
No, Punic is right. I'm sorry, but there is too much political correctness on Teamliquid. Criticism has been taken roughly the last few months, and I feel like SOTG last night showed this perfectly. Almost and hour of defense from Gretorp when not legitimately provoked? JR being an unjust dick for suggesting that people were unhappy? Let's get real. Punic is asking you to assume you were the player being assumed to lose 2-0 when Starcraft and training is your life. It's okay to make a prediction, but a person shouldn't be a total joke. Assume you are them (as the OP suggests).

A caster's job is to be neutral and passionate about the potential of each player. Day9 does this well. He only calls a game as it's ending. Don't get angry that two new casters haven't mastered this yet. Who cares that they are good at playing the game--It's not the same as casting.

E-sports is far from doomed and nothing about this post suggests that. I think that a sore attitude about quality and forced emotion is the cause of unhappiness from OP. As a non-internet troll and a personal IRL friend of Punic, I doubt most people here could be as dedicated to e-sports as him. Don't take it so hard guys, be open to criticism. Temp bans in defense of defamed, prior legends, and losing players? ...wow. Come on. Yes, the post-count defense was worthless, but that aside... this community used to be different. Don't make me miss the old days of top-notch expectations! Both sides of a game are worth respecting. This is Starcraft.


If I was 2-0ed I'd have more things to worry about than a guy making sarcastic remarks that aren't even meant to be offensive or insulting. It's actually funny if you're not so horribly uptight. It's like you losing a game of starcraft and being frustrated, and your friend going "ahahhaha you suck call me for lessons". Yes I'm annoyed but hes obviously kidding and harmlessly poking fun. If I was an uptight douchebag I would tell him to fuck off....if I had the slightest sense of humor I wouldn't care.

That and OP's tone was absolutely ridiculous, taking the biggest offense and making the biggest deal of something that could be sufficiently expressed in 1 line on a feedback thread.
"Again, unreal."

No, its not unreal
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Attican
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark531 Posts
April 28 2011 19:21 GMT
#58
Well it's basically been said throughout this thread, there's no reason that the NASL casters should be humorless and robotic narrators.

Spectator sports, such as SC2, are supposed to be entertaining, the great play by the players and the commentating by the commentators are two inter-related but different aspects of the entertainment. So if the commentators choose humor and good commentating over complete seriousness and good commentating that's their decision and in my opinion a good decision.

Basically, if they didn't contribute something that spectators couldn't get out of just watching with sound off, such as their humor, it wouldn't be as appealing to spectators. So it's all good in my opinion.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
April 28 2011 20:04 GMT
#59
On April 29 2011 04:21 Attican wrote:
Well it's basically been said throughout this thread, there's no reason that the NASL casters should be humorless and robotic narrators.

Spectator sports, such as SC2, are supposed to be entertaining, the great play by the players and the commentating by the commentators are two inter-related but different aspects of the entertainment. So if the commentators choose humor and good commentating over complete seriousness and good commentating that's their decision and in my opinion a good decision.

Basically, if they didn't contribute something that spectators couldn't get out of just watching with sound off, such as their humor, it wouldn't be as appealing to spectators. So it's all good in my opinion.


But isn't there a point where there's just a little too much humor? I don't mind SOME humor but not too much of it. Isn't there a line between seriousness and humor that should be observed? What if the GSL finals were done in this fashion, or lets take it to the extreme just to make my post have some value- what if the casters for the Finals of GSL decided to swear, drop f bombs every 5 seconds, make political, racist, sexist, "too-early" or "too-soon" jokes (HAHA JAPAN GOT OWNED BY AN EARTHQUAKE sort of nonsense), be sarcastic wherever possible, insert memes like there's no tomorrow, and do their best not to add any serious analytical commentary on the game.

To you guys it will be funny, but will you still say it is acceptable?
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
April 28 2011 20:40 GMT
#60
actually, i found it the best commentary and entertainment provided by casters since sc:bw, actually i wondered if there were blogs being made about how awesome it was. I guess i was wrong =/
also whats up with the ad hominem attacks?
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