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apocriva
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada66 Posts
April 28 2011 02:48 GMT
#1
Down to ~190 bonus pool. Seeing as how I didn't play last night, that's great!

Replays:
+ Show Spoiler +
Win vs Ciel (P)
Loss vs scotty (Z)
Loss vs Tripps (P)
Loss vs iRyuKen (P)
Win vs JsM (P)
Loss vs Gene (T)
Win vs DTrader (Z)


Not a terrible night when all is said and done. I am gradually slipping back into playing by feel rather than paying attention to what's going, and considering that my feel for the game is bad... Well, it's not working.

When I lose to Terran, it's inevitably because they have massed a billion marines. I know that banelings should be the way to go, but I still haven't used them enough to be used to it. The loss against Gene was particularly facepalmy for me, because I had a totally botched baneling bust followed by having a bunch of my drones killed, and it just kind of went downhill from there.

In any event, I need to make a more concerted effort to play well. My macro slips way too easily. Maybe I just need to play some games against the very easy AI where all I do is try to keep my hatcheries injected, my larvae spent, and my supply not-capped.

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ValiantGood
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 05:30:50
April 28 2011 05:29 GMT
#2
I just deleted about a page worth of general good advise for the current ZvT metagame because I actually watched the replay.

first off:
-You busted a terran with no plans of expanding.
literally any scouting would have shown you that this was a bad idea
suicide and ovy, sac a single ling and see the 2 rax and 1 fact in plain sight.

Ok so that all-in didnt work, surely you can outplay this silver in a standard game, right?
Right. But you didn't, you followed up an all-in with another all-in.

These cheesy strats are hurtful to you as a player.

You outclassed this guy, yet he won. Did he win? no. You simply killed yourself.


protips for gold: get on 2 base, make 5 roaches, an extra queen for banshees, and get your base saturated. You be the one defending. insta win everygame.
Early agression < Roaches

protip for when/if you get to masters: When you see him FE (like almost all masters TvZ do) Sit back on 3 base and keep constant banling production.
apocriva
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada66 Posts
April 28 2011 12:22 GMT
#3
Thanks for the tips! Like I said, definitely a facepalm game for me. hehe

These cheesy strats are hurtful to you as a player.


Yeah, I don't remember another game where I tried to do a baneling bust, so it's not like I do it well. What happens is that once I start to make units, I completely stop making drones, ever. It's a big problem, and something I need to work on.
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