EPTAny tips on explaining this game to people with no background in rts or gaming at all?
Girlfriend and Starcraft
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imjorman
United States580 Posts
Any tips on explaining this game to people with no background in rts or gaming at all? | ||
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LonelyIslands
Canada590 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On April 21 2011 12:46 imjorman wrote: Just throwing this up as a quick question for everyone out there. I have a girlfriend who has little to no interest in Starcraft/ESPORTS/gaming in general. I don't mind that she has no interest to play, but when we get together, I generally want to watch a series or two with her. The problem is, I have no idea how to explain it to her. We watch matches and I'm just like "uhh he's trying to kill the other guys units." The only thing she gets right now is that the higher food count is more than likely winning. Any tips on explaining this game to people with no background in rts or gaming at all? well. let's SEE WHAT WE CAN DO first. think about what interests you in the game, what drives you to watch more. then just spell that out in wording. so like, oh wow, he completely shut down his economy...he better do something fast or else he'll be out of the gayme!! uh yeah. other than that, if it doens't interest her then try not to force it upon her, but it seems like she's giving it a shot, so perhaps another thing would be to pick up and illustrate the finesse of the players and their actions. mucho sorry i'm a bit drunk, but i hope that helps. it's like anything else though. like hockey, how would you explain to her what's going on? or poker, chess etc... hope that helps oh and does she have any hobbies she likes that you dont? does she do anything to get your interest in them?(DONT tell me boobies I already thought of that) hope that helps thanks for reading roe | ||
Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
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imjorman
United States580 Posts
On April 21 2011 12:53 Roe wrote: well. let's SEE WHAT WE CAN DO first. think about what interests you in the game, what drives you to watch more. then just spell that out in wording. so like, oh wow, he completely shut down his economy...he better do something fast or else he'll be out of the gayme!! uh yeah. other than that, if it doens't interest her then try not to force it upon her, but it seems like she's giving it a shot, so perhaps another thing would be to pick up and illustrate the finesse of the players and their actions. mucho sorry i'm a bit drunk, but i hope that helps. it's like anything else though. like hockey, how would you explain to her what's going on? or poker, chess etc... hope that helps oh and does she have any hobbies she likes that you dont? does she do anything to get your interest in them?(DONT tell me boobies I already thought of that) hope that helps thanks for reading roe I'm going to try maybe casting a few games for her and just explaining how things work out or perhaps have her watch some gsl vods! The casting archon will do a great job at at least getting her excited. Then from there I can perhaps expand into telling her a little more about units, whats going on, etc. Then perhaps play a game for her so she can see what's up? idk... Thanks for your help though bro :D Drunk or not, you did well. She likes basketball and she gets my attention by well...ok I still hate basketball  | ||
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Darkchylde
United States473 Posts
I'm lucky enough to have a fiancee that was brought up around video games by her brother and actually enjoys playing BW (even though she plays with cheat codes). At least your girlfriend is willing to watch, my best friend's fiancee watches TV while he plays and she mimics things she hears a lot like "SCV ready". | ||
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imjorman
United States580 Posts
On April 21 2011 12:57 Chill wrote: I don't get how you can't explain Starcraft easily to someone... That's my delima Mr. Moderate temperature. I want her to get it, but I also don't want to flood her head with tons of data she's not gonna use and simply confuse her. This also has other practical applications. my apartment mates have no idea about starcraft and I suck at explaining that to them as well : / | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On April 21 2011 12:46 imjorman wrote: We watch matches and I'm just like "uhh he's trying to kill the other guys units." So what...you talk to your girlfriend like she's 10 years old or something? | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Legatus Lanius
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imjorman
United States580 Posts
On April 21 2011 13:00 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: I'm sure you didn't come out of the womb with RTS knowledge and had it explained by somebody or a caster or w.e...so why don't you teach her as you were taught? Go over basics perhaps? Build from there? I can understand how it might be difficult to get somebody to understand something...but to have no clue how to even explain something flabbergasts me...turn your thoughts into words and bam...explanation. So what...you talk to your girlfriend like she's 10 years old or something? I think it's more of a lack of my ability to verbalize what I do rather than her ability to understand. She's very intelligent and I just don't know how to put such a complex game into terms that a nongamer can understand. Watching some GSl vods will be a good start. maybe some TSL on Saturday? | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
On April 21 2011 13:00 imjorman wrote: That's my delima Mr. Moderate temperature. I want her to get it, but I also don't want to flood her head with tons of data she's not gonna use and simply confuse her. This also has other practical applications. my apartment mates have no idea about starcraft and I suck at explaining that to them as well : / I think you're likely looking at it in a much too complex manner. Keep it basic (resources/mining/units/techchoices/workercount comparisons), and then explain more complex moves as they happen. There's also a chance they're just plain not interested. Can't really force it on someone, but I do feel that after watching a bunch of games they'll grow to understand it naturally. Also, it helps to lure people in with personalities/storylines. Show em' games between big named players with storylined backgrounds. (Idra/Cruncher thingy, Mondi's return, etc. etc.) Quality commentary where the casters explain and get excited about these storylines or moves within the game helps. (Because they end up doing the explaining for you.) | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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Chimpalimp
United States1135 Posts
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imjorman
United States580 Posts
On April 21 2011 13:17 mikeymoo wrote: Does she really care about the game or does she want to spend time with you? Does she have any interest in learning what the hell you're watching? I think it's both. She wouldn't watch it if I wouldn't have presented it to her, but like because we watch it she is interested in learning about it. At least at a spectator level, I doubt she'll ever be a player so I don't force the issue. I think I'm just gonna let some GSL/TSL VODS do the talking for me and try to fill in the gaps. Seems to be a general consensus. I'm still open to new ideas, however :D | ||
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Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
On April 21 2011 13:00 imjorman wrote: That's my delima Mr. Moderate temperature. I want her to get it, but I also don't want to flood her head with tons of data she's not gonna use and simply confuse her. This also has other practical applications. my apartment mates have no idea about starcraft and I suck at explaining that to them as well : / Just explain the basics. The basis of the game is getting resources. Players make units to kill each other. Tell them about unit control and if something cool happens, explain what the player physically did that makes that cool. I can't really help any more. I've never had any problems explaining it :O | ||
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Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
On April 21 2011 13:17 mikeymoo wrote: Does she really care about the game or does she want to spend time with you? Does she have any interest in learning what the hell you're watching? Irrelevant. I've never seen anyone have Starcraft explained to them well and show no interest. | ||
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imjorman
United States580 Posts
On April 21 2011 13:24 Chimpalimp wrote: I think more or less she doesn't give a care what your watching, she just wants to spend time with you. If she really cared a little, it wouldn't be very hard to explain the basic idea of the game to her. I would consider thinking about what she wants to do, you might just be boring her by watching games while she is around. She has said before to me that she would enjoy the game better if she understood. So we decided not to watch anymore games until I could figure out how to explain it better. Also I plan on making a thing out of our first viewing: hook laptop up to tv, make popcorn, drinks, like a "movie night" kinda deal. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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imjorman
United States580 Posts
On April 21 2011 13:27 Chill wrote: Just explain the basics. The basis of the game is getting resources. Players make units to kill each other. Tell them about unit control and if something cool happens, explain what the player physically did that makes that cool. I can't really help any more. I've never had any problems explaining it :O Your also a top caster | ||
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