EPTOn April 15 2011 07:43 Megaliskuu wrote:
His voice is too soft and sweet, but I don't mind :>.
His voice is too soft and sweet, but I don't mind :>.
hahaha!! please elaborate? what do you do while hes announcing..
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
hahaha!! please elaborate? what do you do while hes announcing.. | ||
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SiegeFlank
United States410 Posts
Of course Gretorp has room for improvement, so does everyone. And that he has room for improvement doesn't mean he hasn't been doing a fine job so far. I think he's actually got quite a bit of potential and it'll be cool to compare his casting in week 10 of NASL to week 1 to really benchmark his improvement. | ||
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rozero1234
United States35 Posts
Today i think i heard him say "and those marines [studder] [studder] scattered [studder] [pause in search of words] like when you thrust your fist [studder] into an anthill [pause in amazement of his own awkwardness]". Khaldor immediately ignores what he just said and began commentary on something else entirely. tl;dr gretorp not confident in his own casting because he is aware that he studders, and that he cant fluidly "put into words" his obvious knowledge of the game. He needs commentary practice somewhere other than the debut of a "troubled" new league. | ||
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ultilol
Pakistan24 Posts
why cant they fix the audio ? compared to TSL3 and IGN their audio is way way worse .. its even worse than an old radio. they should get a better sound setup . User was warned for this post | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:37 rozero1234 wrote: dunno guys there's like one informative thing that is said by gretorp per cast. and the rest of the time he is struggling to even be comprehensible. He tries to spice up the commentary by adding metaphor or something "funny", but it usually falls flat especially when casting with someone else since he is so quick to differ on anything even his own vast knowledge of starcraft, Big No No. Today i think i heard him say "and those marines [studder] [studder] scattered [studder] [pause in search of words] like when you thrust your fist [studder] into an anthill [pause in amazement of his own awkwardness]". Khaldor immediately ignores what he just said and began commentary on something else entirely. tl;dr gretorp not confident in his own casting because he is aware that he studders, and that he cant fluidly "put into words" his obvious knowledge of the game. He needs commentary practice somewhere other than the debut of a "troubled" new league. Hasn't Gretorp been casting the GCPL for a while? Honestly I felt like he did a better job with that, although it was too relaxed and casual for the NASL. | ||
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Skvid
Lithuania751 Posts
After thinking a bit more about it... the way i see it now is that gretorp is kinda a lead caster, and that incontrol is in this "support" role, and that is the problem. You see gretorp can be awesome when it comes to analyzing and breaking down the gameplay, but since hes leading the commentary (and observing) there is not a lot of breathing room left for him to think into the more deep stuff that is happening, add the pressure of the scale of this event and we have our problem. What im trying to say is that he should be in a support caster role, but i guess it's not his decision to make. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On April 18 2011 23:45 KurtistheTurtle wrote: hahaha!! please elaborate? what do you do while hes announcing.. Listen to the soft soundwaves as they flow into my ears and into my body :> | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
The main problem of NASL is the production value ( compared to IGN ) but it seems that they have already improved the quality of the stream. | ||
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DenshaMan
5 Posts
On April 15 2011 18:12 Classysaurus wrote: To answer the question proposed by the thread title: he's not being himself. Be yourself, Andre. This is exactly correct. The way your voice sounds, your mannerisms (he does a lot of half blinking), people can tell when you're not genuine. Now whether he's nervous or not, we still get the feeling that he's not himself and it's untrustworthy. As for tastosis, they weren't great when they started, but I can tell they, like incontrol, were genuine. | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On April 15 2011 06:54 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: There are gretorp haters? The hell lol? In terms of theorycrafting and explaining...I think he is honestly the best out there. His english is perfect...I don't get thw quote about how he doesn't speak english well enough. Gretorp has been in the SC scene for a REALLY long time, I am a huge fan of his. You know...as I continue to watch NASL...I kinda take that back now. I am finding that gretorp's commentary is kinda...well just plain awkward. For BW he was great but in SC2 not so much. He seems to have absolutely zero chemistry with any other commentator. Would be nice to try some other commentator combinations...I'd really love to see idra and incontrol that would be awesome. | ||
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DenshaMan
5 Posts
On May 21 2011 12:00 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: You know...as I continue to watch NASL...I kinda take that back now. I am finding that gretorp's commentary is kinda...well just plain awkward. For BW he was great but in SC2 not so much. He seems to have absolutely zero chemistry with any other commentator. Would be nice to try some other commentator combinations...I'd really love to see idra and incontrol that would be awesome. I've seen this with casters like HDStarcraft. He's very awkward with other commentators and, to me at least, it ends up looking selfish. | ||
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GameTime
United States222 Posts
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DenshaMan
5 Posts
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Radical
United States481 Posts
Frankly I think NASL has done a really good job with the casting for the most part, whether it's gretorp/inc, or the guest casters they've had. The only exception was last night with Totalbiscuit. Actually just to add one more thing, people are always comparing NASL to the production quality of IPL and saying that it isn't as good, and that's true (though I find the quality to be more or less really good at this point), but I would say NASL casting has been far better than IPL casting was. I watched half of the IPL games with the sound turned off because the casting was so bad...not so with NASL. | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
He's analytical too, which is really great. | ||
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akubibot
United States1 Post
On April 22 2011 12:37 rozero1234 wrote: dunno guys there's like one informative thing that is said by gretorp per cast. and the rest of the time he is struggling to even be comprehensible. He tries to spice up the commentary by adding metaphor or something "funny", but it usually falls flat especially when casting with someone else since he is so quick to differ on anything even his own vast knowledge of starcraft, Big No No. Today i think i heard him say "and those marines [studder] [studder] scattered [studder] [pause in search of words] like when you thrust your fist [studder] into an anthill [pause in amazement of his own awkwardness]". Khaldor immediately ignores what he just said and began commentary on something else entirely. tl;dr gretorp not confident in his own casting because he is aware that he studders, and that he cant fluidly "put into words" his obvious knowledge of the game. He needs commentary practice somewhere other than the debut of a "troubled" new league. very well put. I have nothing against the guy, but he's just not easy on the ear. he rambles incoherently and often stops mid-sentence to find the right word. Each time he pauses mid-sentence or uses some awkward phrase, i just want to break something. On the otherhand, I enjoy listening to that energetic biscuit guy and incontrol. | ||
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kNightLite
United States408 Posts
I think Gretorp's a top-notch caster for TvZ and TvP, however I feel like his analysis is poor in all other matchups. Thats fine for playbyplay specialists who can coast on broadcasting experience, but analytical commentators live or die by the quality of their commentary. And unfortunately Gretorp provides quality in only 2 of 6 matchups. He has the potential to become a great analytical commentator if he can elevate his other matchups to his TvZ/P, but unfortunately I haven't seen much improvement on that front thus far. Although I am glad that his sound isses have improved significantly. I think if Gretorp was trying to be just a random-joe youtube caster then he wouldn't have nearly as many haters. The problem is that he leapt into a full time job without adequate experience, to the point where I often feel like I'm paying to watch Gretorp receive on-the-job training. Thats acceptable for free content, but people set a higher standard for paid content. | ||
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