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zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
April 14 2011 22:54 GMT
#21
His casting has potential, not to mention his excited nerd voice can probably be worked on.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
April 14 2011 22:59 GMT
#22
He's fine as a caster, but he doesnt really keep me interested the way the TSL casters keep me interested. I just think they can higher people better
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
April 14 2011 23:03 GMT
#23
On April 15 2011 07:59 adeezy wrote:
He's fine as a caster, but he doesnt really keep me interested the way the TSL casters keep me interested. I just think they can higher people better


hire*

Personally, I love Gretorp. His casting is great, and his analysis is often spot on. I love when he talks about opportunity costs and the effects it will have on a person's build. He's especially good when casting Terran players because he understands the race so well, and the theory behind their choices. People are complaining because they've never heard Broodwar casting before (ie PLAGUUUUUUUUUUU, REABO REABO REABO REABO!) or because they're just being annoying brats who can't appreciate Gretorp's handsomeness.
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mangomango
Profile Joined September 2009
United States265 Posts
April 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#24
Gretorp! Gretorp! Gretorp! Yeah! Gotta love this nerd.
Husky: Every drone you lose is like a needle in the eye. Nony: probes win $10k (Earn it! Idra Fighting) :P
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
April 14 2011 23:07 GMT
#25
He never calls him handsome anymore Thats whats wrong

As one else already said the only issue I can find with his casting is his mic, apart from that Gretorp is good at casting and had good knowledge of game.
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iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 23:15:58
April 14 2011 23:15 GMT
#26
On April 15 2011 06:53 arb wrote:
Because its a bunch of new posters who have no respect for most old school bw players

They should be honored someone as good as Gretorp decided to even commentate for them.


(Note: I have no opinion one way or the other about Gretorp's casting ability.)

God forbid people be judged on merit rather than seniority and skill that they had in a prior game.

...
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iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 23:17:05
April 14 2011 23:16 GMT
#27
On April 15 2011 07:59 adeezy wrote:
He's fine as a caster, but he doesnt really keep me interested the way the TSL casters keep me interested. I just think they can higher people better


Nothing could be worse than the TSL casting when day[9] isn't casting IMO. /slight exaggeration
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 14 2011 23:21 GMT
#28
our sound abilities were terrible. They are fixed now. Todays broadcast still has same sound issues but gretorp and I don't scream I think!

After tonight the sound quality will be around 30x better! I listened to it myself.

Also after tonight: Music during pregame/in game commentary. SOUNDS A LOT BETTER

<3
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 00:13:40
April 15 2011 00:00 GMT
#29
I've liked Gretorp since his BW days and I believe he can do well as a caster. At the moment though, a lot of stuff he says is exaggerated and his enthusiasm comes off as fake. More importantly, he just seems nervous and uncomfortable in front of the camera and in a studio setting. I'm sure it's a lot of pressure. He just needs to chill and be his normal self and he'll do fine.

Also I'd like to add (for both casters) that although this league is serious bussiness you gotta relax and have some fun with it. Jokes, friendly banter, talking about horses and guinea pigs lol. That's what the viewers want and expect. Sitting there all stiff and serious is not really entertaining.
I'm sure it'll come with time though.
There was once a dream that was Esports. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... Now is the time to make that dream a reality!
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 15 2011 00:17 GMT
#30
On April 15 2011 08:21 iNcontroL wrote:
our sound abilities were terrible. They are fixed now. Todays broadcast still has same sound issues but gretorp and I don't scream I think!

After tonight the sound quality will be around 30x better! I listened to it myself.

Also after tonight: Music during pregame/in game commentary. SOUNDS A LOT BETTER

<3


Thanks for this, now Gretorp can get excited and my ears won't die.

Also, how many more games is Diggity doing?
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
April 15 2011 00:18 GMT
#31
On April 15 2011 09:00 BG1 wrote:
He just needs to chill and be his normal self and he'll do fine.


Yep, Gretorp just needs to chill, as Tyler would say.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
April 15 2011 00:23 GMT
#32
On April 15 2011 08:03 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 07:59 adeezy wrote:
He's fine as a caster, but he doesnt really keep me interested the way the TSL casters keep me interested. I just think they can higher people better


hire*

Personally, I love Gretorp. His casting is great, and his analysis is often spot on. I love when he talks about opportunity costs and the effects it will have on a person's build. He's especially good when casting Terran players because he understands the race so well, and the theory behind their choices. People are complaining because they've never heard Broodwar casting before (ie PLAGUUUUUUUUUUU, REABO REABO REABO REABO!) or because they're just being annoying brats who can't appreciate Gretorp's handsomeness.

Agreed -- I checked out NASL briefly -- and was actually quite pleased with the crazy shouting and good analysis. I'll definitely watch again.
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
April 15 2011 07:48 GMT
#33
On April 15 2011 08:21 iNcontroL wrote:
our sound abilities were terrible. They are fixed now. Todays broadcast still has same sound issues but gretorp and I don't scream I think!

After tonight the sound quality will be around 30x better! I listened to it myself.

Also after tonight: Music during pregame/in game commentary. SOUNDS A LOT BETTER

<3


Great! Will pay when I can pay with PayPal!

I recommend all of the BW fans to support GSL and NASL, as even though (at least I) think the games are boring, by supporting SC2 we make SC as an e-sport bigger!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
April 15 2011 07:52 GMT
#34
How the hell are there gretorp haters? He's one of the better casters in the scene.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
April 15 2011 07:54 GMT
#35
Because it's the internet. People hate. If you are in the spotlight, people hate you more.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
April 15 2011 07:55 GMT
#36
poeple don't like him because he gets really excited while casting.

I mean really?Is how is that so bad?Have you ever seen playguuu and reabo and Most Psi storm ever?

the commentators literally scream their lungs out and gretorp is so passionate about SC2 and shows it in such a form he just makes me want to watch SC2....the dude actually makes me want to watch SC2.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
April 15 2011 07:59 GMT
#37
Haha can't believe people can hate Gretorp.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
April 15 2011 08:35 GMT
#38
On April 15 2011 08:21 iNcontroL wrote:
our sound abilities were terrible. They are fixed now. Todays broadcast still has same sound issues but gretorp and I don't scream I think!

After tonight the sound quality will be around 30x better! I listened to it myself.

Also after tonight: Music during pregame/in game commentary. SOUNDS A LOT BETTER

<3


awesome
Can't wait for your guys next cast
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Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
April 15 2011 08:44 GMT
#39
I'm confused. So many people are praising him for his BW days... but he never did anything in BW. It's boggling, how could you have been his sincere fan? I just think this is a bunch of SC2 players making up fallacies. I love Gretorp, little lagger that he is... but please don't spam bullshit.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
April 15 2011 09:02 GMT
#40
Actually, I'm confused. What are people spamming exactly? No one here said he "did anything in BW," which I assume you mean he has no huge bw accomplishments. I just personally liked watching his stream in the bw days; his was one of the more interesting ones to watch b/c he actually talked and interacted while playing.
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