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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
April 04 2011 19:10 GMT
#1
The title says it all. My laptop (specs at the bottom here http://notebook.cz/clanky/recenze-notebook/2009/hp-probook-4510s) started overheating about 5 months ago. When I played SC2 it would sometimes just shut down when there was long 200 vs 200 game going on. After a while it got worse and I could hardly play anymore (I still remember a game when the other guy started flaming me, I then decided to humiliate him with mothership+lots of cannons and when I was killing his last hatch with 200/200 and 4 bases, the laptop just shut down). I bought a laptop cooler and it was all good..for month. Then it all went to shit again and the only way I could play was opening windows in my room and decreasing romm temperature to around 10 °C. After few games I decided it's not really possible to continue in these conditions. I believe it was also caused by 1.2x patch, as day before it I could've played relatively well, and day after it was disaster.

So, it's been almost 2 months since my last SC2 ladder game. Even though I enjoy more watching and reading about BW/SC2, this really kills me. I can watch replays, but it's impossible to play a single game.

Is there ANYTHING (other than buying a new computer) I can do? I used to play on the lowest settings possible, never had a problem with FPS though. I think the shutting down is because of graphic card overheating..

Please help me

*
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
April 04 2011 19:18 GMT
#2
Open it and remove all the dust you can... That's the best you can do...
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Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
April 04 2011 19:19 GMT
#3
The standard answer to this would be to clean the fans on your laptop. Essentially, they blow away the hot air created by your computer, cooling it down. However, over time, dust can collect in the fans, reducing their effectiveness.
Here's an example of what I'm talking about:
+ Show Spoiler +


Depending on the laptop, the results may vary. However, this is the easiest to remedy, and most likely cause of your overheating issues.
If this doesn't work, then you might need to reapply some thermal paste, but give this a shot first!
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AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
April 04 2011 19:32 GMT
#4
are you using the lowest settings? lower your resolution as well. it will decrease the amount of work your gpu needs to do => less heat. also try the things above. dust trapped in a laptop can greatly hinder the cooling ability.
Is it in you?
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
April 04 2011 19:38 GMT
#5
Thanks guys, I know the first thing to do should be cleaning the fan, but I'm little bit afraid because I'm not expert in these things and I read it's quite difficult with this laptop, nevertheless, I'll probably have to try it. If I manage to open it.. can I use a handheld vacuum cleaner to remove the dust?
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Valtias
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2 Posts
April 04 2011 19:44 GMT
#6
ive heard about the antec notebook cooler 200
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
April 04 2011 19:46 GMT
#7
Clean the fan out like people said.

Also what sort of surface are you playing on? I play on a laptop too and had overheating problems (moreso with bad company 2 than sc2) and I bought one of these http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Notepal-Notebook-R9-NBC-8PBK-GP/dp/B002NU5V4A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1301946208&sr=8-2.

Seems to work well in letting some airflow under my laptop and has a couple fans to help as well. Propping your laptop up with a book or something to get some airflow under it would probably work fine too and is free =).
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
April 04 2011 19:49 GMT
#8
I was in a similar situation and picked up a notebook cooler zm-nc 1000 on newegg.com. Works well.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
April 04 2011 19:50 GMT
#9
On April 05 2011 04:46 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Also what sort of surface are you playing on? I play on a laptop too and had overheating problems (moreso with bad company 2 than sc2) and I bought one of these http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Notepal-Notebook-R9-NBC-8PBK-GP/dp/B002NU5V4A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1301946208&sr=8-2.

Seems to work well in letting some airflow under my laptop and has a couple fans to help as well. Propping your laptop up with a book or something to get some airflow under it would probably work fine too and is free =).


I wrote in OP I bought a cooler.. and yea, I have the same as you do.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
April 04 2011 19:53 GMT
#10
I can play sc2 with a shitty laptop if I only use my cooler + low settings , you have to have a good cooler though. If that doesn't work and it doesn't as of what I can gather from the OP then opening the laptop and cleaning it is your best bet. After you have cleaned it though you will still need low settings and a cooler , best of luck
BW for life !
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
April 04 2011 19:56 GMT
#11


I wrote in OP I bought a cooler.. and yea, I have the same as you do.



Oh bleh, I just skimmed over it lol. I guess the only thing you can do then is clean out the fan. Or maybe buy a desk fan and aim it at your laptop x)
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 20:04:08
April 04 2011 20:02 GMT
#12
remove the covers form the bottum of the laptop or w.e and clean as much dust away as you can like people have said above.

What kind of cpu do you have in your laptop? You should be able to undervolt it via software which can save you 10 degree's easily depending on some things. It also does not reduce performance at all and is safe.

IF you tell what kind of cpu you have, i can try and find out the options orr w.e
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Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
April 04 2011 20:04 GMT
#13
Yeah clean the fan. I have a laptop too, and quite an old one too. I had the same issues. the fan started whirling as soon as i turned on, and never stopped. And after a while i couldn't even watch a youtube video or anything. Just make sure to check behind all the fans, and remove all bolts you find, because when i first took my laptop apart, I didn't find the place that was stuffed the most. Then when i did find it, i removed like a fistfull of dust. Pretty sick really. :D
So good luck with it!!
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
April 04 2011 20:11 GMT
#14
sooo.. I found this video

http://h20464.www2.hp.com/media/070C5875-E817-40E2-9063-6B964F37C94F/pia_15_FRU_video_keyboard.htm

is it enough if I remove the keyboard and then use a vacuum cleaner for the fan or do I need to remove the fan itself?


On April 05 2011 05:02 MrShankly wrote:
What kind of cpu do you have in your laptop? You should be able to undervolt it via software which can save you 10 degree's easily depending on some things. It also does not reduce performance at all and is safe.

IF you tell what kind of cpu you have, i can try and find out the options orr w.e


what is undervolting and why everyone isn't doing it? Just wondering, never heard about it.

I have Core2Duo T5870 2 GHz if that's what you're asking about.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Rising_Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States370 Posts
April 04 2011 20:14 GMT
#15
Clean your intakes and fans of your laptop as everyone else said.

However, it could be possible that your motherboard's heat-sinks were damaged/cracked/not distributing heat properly. If that's the case, get a replacement assuming that you have a warranty. If you don't you're pretty screwed.
Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes
CoFran
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada342 Posts
April 04 2011 20:16 GMT
#16
Cleaning dust first is the way to go, then go further by applying new thermal paste on the CPU, if you're not sure about opening up your laptop consult the service manual : http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01905586/c01905586.pdf

If you're not comfortable ask a friend or take it to a repair shop. You can find thermal paste online or in repair shops.
TanX
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark92 Posts
April 04 2011 20:23 GMT
#17
On April 05 2011 04:10 ondik wrote:
The title says it all. My laptop (specs at the bottom here http://notebook.cz/clanky/recenze-notebook/2009/hp-probook-4510s) started overheating about 5 months ago. When I played SC2 it would sometimes just shut down when there was long 200 vs 200 game going on. After a while it got worse and I could hardly play anymore (I still remember a game when the other guy started flaming me, I then decided to humiliate him with mothership+lots of cannons and when I was killing his last hatch with 200/200 and 4 bases, the laptop just shut down). I bought a laptop cooler and it was all good..for month. Then it all went to shit again and the only way I could play was opening windows in my room and decreasing romm temperature to around 10 °C. After few games I decided it's not really possible to continue in these conditions. I believe it was also caused by 1.2x patch, as day before it I could've played relatively well, and day after it was disaster.

So, it's been almost 2 months since my last SC2 ladder game. Even though I enjoy more watching and reading about BW/SC2, this really kills me. I can watch replays, but it's impossible to play a single game.

Is there ANYTHING (other than buying a new computer) I can do? I used to play on the lowest settings possible, never had a problem with FPS though. I think the shutting down is because of graphic card overheating..

Please help me


Been experiencing the same issue... ended up downloading a program that keeps track of the temperature and tried to figure out what was causing it... Obviously it was SC2, but it was also the fact that the laptop just sat flat on the table, preventing 100% ventilation beneath it. The solution was to put something below it, to raise the back-end so air could flow through more easily. The temperature dropped from about 86* to 64* gaming temperature.

Perhaps try that out?
'but this is not supposed to be the old starcraft'
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
April 04 2011 20:25 GMT
#18
On April 05 2011 05:11 ondik wrote:
sooo.. I found this video

http://h20464.www2.hp.com/media/070C5875-E817-40E2-9063-6B964F37C94F/pia_15_FRU_video_keyboard.htm

is it enough if I remove the keyboard and then use a vacuum cleaner for the fan or do I need to remove the fan itself?


Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 05:02 MrShankly wrote:
What kind of cpu do you have in your laptop? You should be able to undervolt it via software which can save you 10 degree's easily depending on some things. It also does not reduce performance at all and is safe.

IF you tell what kind of cpu you have, i can try and find out the options orr w.e


what is undervolting and why everyone isn't doing it? Just wondering, never heard about it.

I have Core2Duo T5870 2 GHz if that's what you're asking about.

It reduces the voltage going to the cpu basically. You reduce the voltage systematically testing the stability, and then once the computer crashes or w.e you put it back up a notch or two and voila, your computer/laptop now runs at lower temperatures.
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Banteng
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 20:30:32
April 04 2011 20:30 GMT
#19
This literally just happened to me. I was throwing witty bro-banter about in a TvZ when after about 16 minutes of back and forth, his final push came, and as I was dying, my laptop overheated. Afterwards, I went and cleaned out my fans and now my computer is fine.

This used to be a chronic problem for me several months ago until I realized that my fans had stopped working for some reason. Fixing the fans fixed the problem for me (well, until today D: ).
Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
April 04 2011 20:48 GMT
#20
I had the same problem, just bought some air in a can, and let er rip at the fan intake.

No more overheating =]
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
April 04 2011 22:13 GMT
#21
UPDATE: so, after an hour I managed to remove keyboard and the touchpad thing just to find out it's literally impossible for me to remove the fan. (see the video I posted above) anyway i tried to clean it as much as I could and in frustration brought big cleaner and vacuud that shit. To my surprise it's still working after I put it together. I don't think I will be able to play but right now I feel good about myself anyway

MrShankly: could you please tell me how to do it then? If it's indeed harmless..
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 22:45:20
April 04 2011 22:44 GMT
#22
On April 05 2011 05:11 ondik wrote:
sooo.. I found this video

http://h20464.www2.hp.com/media/070C5875-E817-40E2-9063-6B964F37C94F/pia_15_FRU_video_keyboard.htm

is it enough if I remove the keyboard and then use a vacuum cleaner for the fan or do I need to remove the fan itself?


Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 05:02 MrShankly wrote:
What kind of cpu do you have in your laptop? You should be able to undervolt it via software which can save you 10 degree's easily depending on some things. It also does not reduce performance at all and is safe.

IF you tell what kind of cpu you have, i can try and find out the options orr w.e


what is undervolting and why everyone isn't doing it? Just wondering, never heard about it.

I have Core2Duo T5870 2 GHz if that's what you're asking about.

http://www.overclock.net/laptops-notebook-computers/308654-undervolt-laptop-guide-intel-c2d-t7500.html

Here you go thats a prettty indepth guide.


It is definately worth it, i do it on every laptop i use (3 so far) and have never ran into problems, and got massive temp saves every time.

i suppose it would also increase your battery life (tho i would imagine that part is negligable ;P)
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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
April 04 2011 23:46 GMT
#23
thanks.. on the other news - i just played 6 FUCKING GAMES IN A ROW!!

wooo!
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
April 05 2011 02:23 GMT
#24
NIce congrats!!

you probably dont need to do the undervolting then, but personally i would recommend it since the results of doing so are really good and the guide is also pretty step by step.

hf!
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eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 03:00:42
April 05 2011 03:00 GMT
#25
On April 05 2011 04:44 Valtias wrote:
ive heard about the antec notebook cooler 200 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7a8StbCic8


I use something like this, keeps my laptop cool as a cucumber, even when I'm playing graphically intense stuff. Cost 30-50 dollars, depending on where you live I guess.
How's the weather down there?
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
April 05 2011 03:31 GMT
#26
Definitely get a cooling pad. Same was happening to me on laptop when I used to play on it. It still did after a while of using the cooling pad too, but it helped a bunch anyways. GL.
Sup
Marine5697
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States20 Posts
April 28 2011 04:46 GMT
#27
Ok guys ive done everything suggested so far to cool my laptop when playing SC2 but it still keeps over heating... Should i just get a new computer?
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32139 Posts
April 28 2011 14:13 GMT
#28
I had the same problem with the new laptop I bought when the game came out. I ended up returning it because even with a cooling pad, it was just a really pisspoor made computer with one vent on the bottom.

Cleaning the vents would probably help though. I did that on my old desktop and it made it work like new. Those things collect dust very rapidly.
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